balthazar

Do people usually go to a store now with a gas can to fuel their vehicle? Why wouldn't you drive your car to the nearby store then? I'm not sure what point 'hope to have a can' even was.

That’s a ‘55. That year, only the Special had 3 VentiPorts per side.

It doesn't skew anything because I specifically stated 'locations', not nozzles/plugs. And I mentioned that long distance was not a considerable factor then. Fueling a car works fine now with 6000 vehicles per fueling location... now imagine 300 cars per location then. Pumps must've stood unused for days (a Model T got around 20 mpg). You are correct; after I saw we both looked at the same first link, I didn't check the 2nd. I did now, and I see nothing there that speaks to any great challenges. I also saw the home delivery service for fuel mentioned; early AAA-esque. Fueling locations went from 22K to 200K in 10 years, pretty remarkable. There are 30K public charging locations in the U.S. now according to Google; Tesla opened their first in 2012; 9 years ago. Of course, there were basically no restrictions on anyone opening up a fuel service back then, no doubt; not a fair comparison there. Just noting the numbers. ?

Well, Musk managed to get a slow but ever-growing business model going, and to further that goal he HAD to start installing chargers for his devices. The issue in the near future may be that having a proprietary charger is no longer a benefit (and I don't know that it is) to the company, once public chargers become universal irregardless of brand (which they must). Musk set up chargers so his company could sell more vehicles... because the buyers need them.

It was 15,000 filling stations plus "half as many curbside pumps". No reason to eliminate those fueling locations I can see. I'm not denying that historical fact, but I was addressing David's common claim about 'the dawn of the auto industry / the early 1900s' specifically. My post was no attempt to give a complete historical overview.

"Hoping you have a can"?? ? So you're saying it was acceptable 100 years ago, so it should be acceptable today? People don't want to do ANYTHING like they did 20 years ago, never mind 120 years ago! - - - - - But to repeat- automobiles were not used 100 years ago like you seem to think they were. There was no long-distance traveling, or looking for unknown gas stations. There was no significant range anxiety. Cars were primarily occasional-use / local vehicles (at the point you imply there were no plentiful gas stations). Fueling locations were more common for lesser demand. In 1920 in the U.S., there were about 22,000 filling stations & curbside pumps, for about 7,000,000 vehicles. That's 318 vehicles per location. In 2020, in the U.S., there were about 60,500 gas stations for about 375,000,000 vehicles. That's 6188 vehicles per location. Seems you need to drop your ill-informed claim that people were scrabbling around, panicked, looking for fuel 100 years ago. Wasn't the case. - - - - - Today, you have a fledgling & compromised (not-uncommonly plagued by defects & restrictions) public charging system, or a slow home system, in a time people depend on their autos daily. It's not a secretive IC cabal pushing this, it's just the facts.

So...... ship all BE assembly out of the country then?? - - - - - >>"1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, new research shows"<< https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-5-electric-vehicle-owners-164149467.html Oopsie-poopsie!

Jeep.com is showing an even 12 trims for the GC. Wild: MSRPs range from 34K to 88K.

Full-size trucks are the closest to 'how things used to be'; a lot of body configurations, bunch of powertrains, still some separation of options (tho still in packages), a dizzying array of accessories... all good. But agreed on the colors: of the online selection in my truck's trim, I would say 65% are either white or black. Can you name a car with FOUR different wheel size options (17", 18", 20" and 22")? Remnant of shipping protection (vinyl wrap).

'Dangerous', they say. I hope, in addition to both engine AND exhaust noise, Daimler doesn't forget to get some gear-changing sounds in there, too. ?

In the beginning, I was set on a Silverado with the chrome (LT). But somehow during the 3-some months I actively stewed over making this move, I switched over to the Sierra because I really liked the Elevation (styling & color balance with the black trim). I really am more of a chrome guy, but this is still peachy. I'm happy because I looked at another Sierra in this color and I started thinking it was too bright/light. Tho it was overcast here today, it looked darker this time and closer to the website's depiction (as seen on previous page).

This HAS to be a joke. You literally pay for the hardware & software, you OWN it... but it doesn't 'work' unless you pay again.

Down With The Silence!!

^ Remedy :

Going to bump the monthly to $600 tho (max of 65 months).

Probably go with 3.29% / 72 months due to also getting the $5K purchase allowance. That lowers the finance amount / total financed. I can get 0% /72 but lose the 5 grand (and the monthly therefore is slightly higher). Same case with 1.9% / 84 month {shudder}- lower finance charge but higher total payments (due to longer loan). sales dude said my credit is better than 90% of their customers - nice to hear.

Well.......... it’s finally here. UNFORTUNATELY, it’s far too nice for a bumpkin like me, so I politely refused it. No; I guess I’ll take it. Going back tomm with a fat check and a brand new pen.

geTtiN DrunK @ th dEalerSshp RIGHt nowwW!!! ?

My only other new vehicle, my ‘94 F-150, started out ordered, but it didn’t get slotted for production, so I bought off lot.

^ Diesel half-tons hold there value very well, but I get you. I'll probably keep this a good 15 years, providing it behaves well.

I'm going to be putting 'some cash' down, brings the calculated 72-mnth payment to around $540. I'm not nuts about that because we've never had a car payment over $250 here. When I sell the '04, going to put that money toward the principal on the '21 - don't know if the monthly gets recalculated or the loan just ends sooner.

'75 by my source (and via my experience). Those are commonly termed 'emission Q-Jets' that incorporate a host of features undesirable WRT performance. Those carbs routinely are shunned. The fact that there was a unilateral move to 800 cfm at a point where HP outputs were down by 50% tells you what was going on; airflow to overcome emission 'burdens', not enable greater power. True, but note that was done almost a decade before the 800. CFM is CFM, and that's all that counts. ?