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That's all well & good for that one guy, but what about everyone else? They stand there, slack-jawed & glassy-eyed, waiting for some illegals to skin their cat for them. Remember; that's what happened to the Dodo.

evok- wow. We posted the same FMVSS and you're completely right and I'm lying, misleading and/or misunderstanding. "Again". I suppose you know my reasons for purposely lying to others here about a random safety standard, too. Dammnit; I'll have to be much more careful in the future with sharp sticks like yourself on the case, or my Master Plan will be thwarted.

I love BOF.

Let me refresh your memory of what I said: U.S. Department of Transportation Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard #205: Tempered glass: The reasons I cited are true. This is not me talking, just me repeating the general NHTSA, DOT, ANSI and SAE standards. Take it up with them, since they seem to know what they're talking about.

Not cramming in on the Rutgers bandwagon? I worked at their Homecoming game when they went -IIRC- 6-0 and my wife is a RU alumni, so I have to pull for the SKs. The game last week against Louisville was fantastic.

dammit. 1. F 2. F 3. T 4. F 5. F 6. T 7. T 8. T 9. F 10. F 11. F 12. F 13. F

{ragged sigh}Windshields are laminated, side glass is tempered...FOR THE MOST PART. A niche-volume manufacturer offers laminated side glass and everything I posted is flat wrong, eh? Tho there are pros & cons for each type, but I would not want laminated glass splintering into jagged spikes right next to my face! You can pick up a handful of broken tempered glass & roll it in your hand without injury. Both types have been judged legally liable in accidents, BTW.

1. F 2. T 3. T 4. F 5. F 6. T 7. T 8. T 9. F 10. F 11. F 12. F 13. F

Do ya?

>>"Studfinders, laser levels, compact discs, coffee makers...... its called human evolution, time savers, etc."<< Technology increasingly enables the unskilled and the lazy. There is something to be said for being able to accomplish a challenge using less complex tools and a more complex mind. On topic- I find fobs in general to be an annoyance rather than a convenience.

Can't: windshields are laminated to keep them relatively visually clear upon impact (so the driver can still see where he's going)- side & rear glass is tempered: heat-treated to break into those little cubes- safer than laminated but obviously you would not be able to see thru a crazed tempered windshield if something hit you when still moving. No way to add lamination to tempered glass as far as I know.

I have no specifics on the armored DTS, but Cadillac does build a commercial chassis again- saw it on TV last year: strengthened DTS with HD suspension, brakes and wheels. DTS is a unibody, no? Putting the DTS FWD body on a independant RWD frame would not be an easy or inexpensive undertaking. 'Truck frame' sounds highly improbable (unless the armored DTS has frame rails hanging down below the rockers and giant tire-wheelwell gaps, then nevermind).

Interested to see the consumer reaction, tho I am disappointed at the unoriginality of the ubiquitous "L" designation. Cadillac is better than that.

I know what it feels like, a good friend of mine from HS was murdered 2 weeks ago by a wacko neighbor. Leaves a wife and 2 kids- the son found his father in the driveway when he came home from school. Awful, shocking & so utterly senseless. I hope they can pull it together and move on. Hang tough, dave.

Oh good- it's been a few months now since a good dose of toyota embarassment. Good to see it's 'steady as it goes' WRT recent quality problems.

What location in Pontiac regarding Pontiac is this? This is NOT the longtime PMD headquarters building, correct; that was abandoned some recent years ago IIRC.

What: I should change my opinion of them as idiots because they like a marque I favor's product?? They're still worthless.

I don't care what they like or what they don't like overall- they're still a pair of dim-witted twits. >>"Lienert & Lienert, a Detroit-based automotive information services company."<< a-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

That's the '55 Merc D-528. It was "designed and built to test advance concepts in air conditioning, seating, ingress and egress, lighting, front frame crash absorption and Ford’s first car without A-pillars". "it was assigned the name D-528, which meant the 528th "Design" project started at the Engineering Department." It survives today (if it isn't obvious the pic is current).

No, no, Oldsmoboi; BMW is God's bestest gift today, so it was God's bestest gift always. Look at that 325 interior above: a coal bin of plastic, plaid upholstery and banks of idiot lights. Nevermind that a Chevy Beretta out performed a 3-series in this era- BMWs are simply fantastagasmoric.

'Squashing facts'?? You're 'surmising' CTS buyers are jumping 50% in price from Regals & GPs and I'm squashing facts?? Let's see your trade-in break-downs. Simply repeating conjecture 'not a lot of conquest sales' with zero fact behind it is that very same thing you are accusing me of doing. What are mercedes' conquest sales in the last 5 years? How does that validate or refute mercedes' 'success' in the last 5 years? Why does mercedes need 28 models to compete in volume and why did sales drop last year? Cadillac doesn't even have a $20-someK hatchback and a minivan to pull down their ABA. You want to stick a sharpened stick in a segment underperformer, it's mercedes you're looking for. >>"I would never expect any luxury marque to have a 'youthful' ABA, since not many 'youth' have the cash necessary."<< No kidding. Then why bother with: >>"The 30-50 yr old crowd that are shopping BMW, Infiniti, Audi, Lexus and Mercedes do not have Cadillac on their radar."<< when more 30-50 yr olds are shopping Cadillac than mercedes? The implication is Cadillacs are for old folks but the reality is quite different. >>"the problem is that the CTS is a strong product for a GM fan to buy, but not for a 3, G35, A4, etc buyer to buy."<< Again, what makes you think the 3, 35, 4 are on the radar screens of the 60K annual CTS buyers, and what makes that an entirely different scenario? Oh, I get it: those imports are so amazingly better that a Cadillac is far beneath their upturned noses, while every single CTS owner is a faint breeze from jumping in any one of those and he 'settled' for a CTS (after all, it's so much better than the $20K Regal he came out of). Classic old school perceptions.

Mercedes has a far older ABA than Cadillac. Cadillac's ABA is dropping, mercedes' is rising (their positions on the scale were reversed about 5 years ago.Average Buyer Age~ Mercedes -- 58.7 Cadillac -- 53.4 Jaguar -- 49.8 Lexus -- 49.4 BMW -- 46.1 Infiniti -- 41.6 Really, only infiniti has a relatively enviable ABA- even BMW's is only the median age of all car buyers; certainly not what would be termed 'youthful'. Any "open-minded luxury buyer" that would not consider Cadillac is in no way "open-minded". So the question remains- just who are all these new Cadillac customers pushing sales up year after year, and what did they trade in from other brands?? What was the problem again?

I'd prefer a really cool, archives-sourced, never-seen-before, chronological history of the complete developmental & racing history of the Daytona/Superbird, rather than this.

I have about 4500 print ads back to the 'teens, hundreds of magazines & clipped pages/pictures, books, brochures.... maybe 25K pieces.

'Remember'?? With a few million on the road, I doubt remembrances are neccessary.I didn't care for the look initially, but it's not haphazard, convoluted & bloated like toyota's body undulations & tacked on bling-supreme grille.