GEESIXER

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Just what do you mean by "acceptable"?! I will have you know i take great pride in seeing that report and knowing that i had something to do with it. I dont know where you live or how many P-B-G dealers you have been in for that matter, but I ussure you that majority of dealers are, as you call it "acceptable".

I live in Richmond Kentucky and i will drive up there tonight and take some pics, i havent noticed them but they sound like they are worth the drive!!!!!!!!

BINGO!!!!!!!!!

this may be true but still, at the same time two negatives do not make a positive. if nissan makes a crapy car and gm makes a crapy car, they would just make crapy cars together. not a very good solution to the problem.

that sound pleasant

YOU ARE MISSING MY POINT. GM CANT JUST STOP WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED TO HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. WHETHER WE AGREE WITH IT OR NOT THEY HAVE TO FINISH WHAT THEY STARTED. THEY JUST NOW HAVE STARTED TO MAKE PLANS TO FIX IT ALL. YOU WILL SEE THE ACTUAL AFFECT IN A FEW YEARS. THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO FINISH WHAT THEY STARTED. AND IF YOU HAD ANY IDEA OF WHAT FAITH REALLY WAS THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SEE TO BELIEVE. I BELIEVE THAT IF GM CAN HANG IN THERE AND NOT KILL OF ANY BRANDS THEN THEY WILL REGAIN A STRONG HOLD IN THE MARKET, DOWN THE ROAD. SEEING IS NOT BELIEVING, BELIEVING IS SEEING. YOU WOULD DO GOOD TO REMEMBER THAT. :AH-HA_wink: I SEE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS FORUM IS SAYING WHEN THE COMPLAIN ABOUT WHERE GM WAS HEADED. KEY WORD BEING WAS. IT TAKES TIME TO TURN A GLOBAL COMPANY BACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT IS NOT OVER NIGHT. WETHER THE G5 IS WELL DESIGNED OR NOT, YOU WILL SEE A TON OF THEM ON THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE CHEAP PRICE TAG. TOYOTA DID NOT MAKE VERY GOOD LOOKING CARS WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT. THEY WERE BUTT UGLY IN MY OPINION. BUT THEY WERE BUILT WITH QUALITY AND IT WORKED FOR THEM. AND IT WILL WORK FOR GM! BTW, GM HAS INTRODUCED A NEW WARRANTY WITH THE G5. IT WILL BE A 3YR-36K BUMPER TO BUMPER AND A NEW EXPERIMENTAL 5YR-50K POWERTRAIN WARRANTY TO BACK UP THE NEW HIGHER QUALITY GM PRODUCTS.

WAY TO HOPE FOR THE BEST. IN MY OPINION ATTITUDES LIKE THAT ARE THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES FOR GM TO OVER COME. I WILL TELL YOU THAT GM ACTUALLY DOES HOVE DECENT CARS AND TRUCK ON THE ROAD. GM IS NOT GOING TO STOP AND DO A COMPLETE 180 TURN-AROUND ON A DIME BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING THEY DID. THIS REVOLUTION WILL NOT COME IN ONE FOWL SWOOP. BUT I THINK THAT BY THE NEXT FEW CAR DESIGNS WE WILL SEE WHAT THEY REALLY HAVE IN STORE FOR PONTIAC. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE G5 WAS IN THE MAKING BEFORE THEY REALLY FELL IN THE WHOLE. THEY WILL RIDE THIS PONY OUT AND THE START FRESH WITH THE NEW IDEAS. JUST BE PATIENT YOUNG PADEWAN!!!!!! "THIS AINT THEIR FIRST RODEO"

I DO HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE THOUGHLY UNAPPEALING PART OF IT!!!!!!

I AM SURE THAT I WILL BE DRILLED FOR SAYING THIS. BUT I THINK THE NEW G5 DOES HAVE SOME APPEAL TO IT. I THINK IT WILL BE CHEAP ENOUGH AND SPORTY ENOUGH TO ACTRACT THE YOUNG CROWD. FROM A DEALER STAND POINT, I KNOW WE NEED SOMETHING IN THE PRICE RANGE OF 13K - 19K. WE DID JUST RECEIVE THE PREDELIVERY INSPECTION PAYMENT, WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD HAVE IT WITHIN A MONTH. I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THAT I AM EXCITED TO SEE IT.

YEAH, what he said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nah, still looks like a sunfire on roids to me!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS HARD TO TAKE MY FEELINGS ABOUT THE TWO BRANDS IN QUESTION OUT OF THE EQUATION, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IF DONE THE PROPER WAY, PONTIAC COULD BE PURE SPORT. I KNOW I AM NOT ALONE IN WANTING TO SEE AN ALL RWD LINE UP FOR PONTIAC. BUT LIKE I SAID =, IT MUST BE DONT HE PROPER WAY. AS FOR BUICK, THE LUCERNE IS THE BEST LOOKING CAR THEY HAVE MADE IN QUITE SOME TIME. FULLY LOADED IT IS NOT YOUR GRANDFATHER CAR. BUT UNLESS CADDY STEPS THEIR PRODUCTS UP A NOTCH, YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THEY ARE COMPETTING AGAINST THEMSELVES.

let me just ask. is there a web site for toyota and honda fans to complain about the things GM has but they dont. i just get tired of hearing that they dont do anything wrong. has anybody else heard about toyota's new camry having and intermediate steering shaft break and loosing control at highway speeds. that seems like a quality control issue if i have ever seen one!!!!!!!

LET ME TRY AND SETTLE THIS NOW. I BOUGHT AN '06 COUPE G6 GT. IT HAS THE ELECTRIC POWER STEERING AND IT DOESNT FEEL ANY DIFFERENT THAN A NORMAL HYDRAULIC P/S. SECOND, THE CLOTH FEELS JUST AS GOOD AS ANY POS TOYOTA CLOTH. AND THIRD, THE REASON FOR THE "BWOP" NOISE WAS BECAUSE GM WENT TO A SOLID STATE TURN SIGNAL FLASHER THAT DIDNT MAKE ANY NOISE, THE CONSUMER COMPLAINED THAT IT DIDNT FEEL NORMAL SO GM MADE IT MAKE THAT NOISE SO THE CUSTOMER KNEW IT WAS STILL WORKING FINE. TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, I LOVE MY G6 AND WOULDNT TRADE IT FOR SOME CRAPPY HONDA IMPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"1. Design is first 2. Quality is second 3. perception is third. At one point and time, Pontiac used to define performance. Why can't it be that way again." GAME POINT AND MATCH. I COULD NOT HAVE PUT IT BETTER MYSELF!!!!!!

LETS NOT FORGET THAT PONTIAC SUPERCHARGED V6 WEIGHS MORE THAN THE ALUMINUM BLOCK OF THE GXP'S V8!!!! THEY ARE GETTING LIGHTER.