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Not sure the maintenance is so low on a Genesis. Hyundai/Kia parts prices are insane. An engine wire harness on an Elantra is over $5,000, it is $6,000 on an Elantra Hybrid on and S-class and it is $4,370. A Tucson front door is $2300, on an S-class it is $2,100 on a Lexus LS is $838. A Kia Sorrento quarter wheel opening molding is $808, for plastic. 1 headlight on a G90 is $3,649, more than an S-class but less than the BMW $5,000 laser headlight. On a Mercedes a front radar sensor is about $650. On the current Hyundai Tucson front radar sensor is $2000, on the prior generation they are $2700 S-class parts are expensive for sure, but expected for the price of the car and basically on par with Tucson/Elantra parts. Lexus parts are cheaper than Hyundai/Kia or Mitsubishi parts. And it seems like the Hyundai 3.5 V6 doesn't have issues, but those 2.0 and 2.4 liter 4 cylinders for the 2010s burned oil and grenaded themselves like crazy. Those are the engine equivalent to the Nissan CVT transmission, do not buy ever. On top of the fact that you can steal those Hyuundais but putting a scrunched USB jack in the ignition. I just can't trust anything Hyundai makes, it looks nice new and after 5 years they look like crap and fall apart.

They are getting there on price, I think they need an SLE trim around $60k, then with the tax credit you getting closer to ICE prices.

The top 1% aren't buying a Genesis. They are trying to sell to baby boomers who used to have a Buick, Cadillac, Infiniti or Lincoln and they don't have luxury sedans anymore, or maybe people that think a Lexus LS is too sporty.

All black to me is a lack of style and design. It shows no creativity or imagination, it is just lazy to make everything 1 color. Also I am tired of this gloss black trim trend on the outside and inside of cars, "paint black" fingerprint magnet center consoles. They don't really sell many of these G90s, did they need to make an extended version? Do they even sell in China where they are buying EV's and buying local more and more?

They can catch up as fast as they want to. If they want to pour billions into R&D for solid state batteries, they can kind of just skip over the 400V and even the battery tech in this recent crop of 2021-2025 era EVs. Toyota isn't short on money or engineers, it just depends on where they want to deploy it.

Agreed. When Tesla was the only game in town outside of compliance cars like the Leaf or Bolt, it pretty easy for them, but now pretty much everyone except Toyota/Subaru/Mazda have a pretty competent EV in their line up (and a Stellantis, but they don't really do anything well). Second problem is Tesla's line up is small and they are slow to refresh it. The Model X and S have had one minor refresh in like 8 years, and the new 3 and the 2026 Y are really just front /rear fascia refreshes on the same car that is 8 years old. Now you have the Chinese undercutting Tesla by a ton on price with cars that are equal on tech and range (or even better), an d the luxury brands have EVs with luxury interiors, Tesla doesn't have a luxury car interior,

Priced like a luxury car with the interior of a nice Honda or Toyota. Besides Elon scaring away buyers, I think as all the other guys start putting out EVs in more segments and in lower prices, Tesla is in for some competition. The new CLA is way nicer than a Model 3, and has better range and faster charging. And that's the cheap Mercedes that people want to say isn't even luxury. The Equinox EV basically gives you what the Model Y does except maybe you lose some 0-60 time.

It is a failure, although BMW does it and sells more EV's than Mercedes and Audi combined, by doing ICE and EV on one platform. Mercedes isn't doing what BMW does, the electric GLC, E-class, S-class, and on a totally different platform than the ICE cars but look the same as the gas car. 2 platforms, 1 design language.

I think they just need SUVs built at Alabama because they sell so many SUVs here. Probably having the same body and interior on ICE and EV platforms will help manufacturing a lot. GM could probably do that with Equinox ICE and EV, it seems like it would be better economies of scale to have the ICE Equinox body and interior on Ultium.

It is still a matter of packaging. I have not been in an Escalade EV since I don’t know how roomy it is, it better be huge in there. But i have been in some SUV’s were the 3rd row is basically useless, I think the Volvo EVX90 or whatever it is called is like that. And this might be an EV issue, the need to shrink the battery so it doesn’t eat cabin space. And that might take years.

You should be able to get interior space without a vehicle being this large, it is bigger than the Ford Excursion. The ID Buzz could fit six 6-foot people in it with ease and is smaller than this.

This thing is just too large.

Through February 2025 Ford is down 7.4% for the year and Lincoln is down 14.6%. Ford Mustang is down 34% and Mach-E is up 62% and outselling the ICE Mustang 6,841 to 5,191. E-transit up 3%. F150 Lightning down 15%

Alabama makes GLE, GLS, EQE SUV, EQS SUV. Sindelfingen makes GLC, E-class, S-class, EQS, Maybach S-class, AMG GT 4-door Bremen makes EQE, C-class, GLC, SL, GT, CLE, GLC Coupe They can make SUV and sedan and convertible and coupe all in one plant, but it seems easier for them to switch EV and ICE in one plant. But perhaps they do it this way for commonality and quality control. C-class, CLE, GLC are very similar. Just like Honda Pilot, Ridgeline, Odyssey, Passport, Acura MDX are all the same.

Mercedes has MMA which replaces the MFA (Mercedes front drive architecture) and it is optimized for EV and the compromise is on the ICE side, this is CLA, GLA, GLB staring in 2026 model year. MB.EA is the EQ cars, to be replaced in 2026 with EVA2 with 800 volt and the new EV platforms, for C-class, E-class, S-class, etc. AMG.EA I am not sure what is different, but it will underpin the 1,000 hp AMG electric sedan and SUV and apparently they could put a V8 on that platform. MRA2 is the rear drive platform for C-class up to S-class for the 2021 and newer cars. What they don't want to do is wha tBMW does, and take an S-class chassis and just stuff batteries in it. So they need MRA and MB.EA underneath with the same body on top to optimize the ICE car and the EV. MHA is the GLE/GLS platform, which is basically high riding MRA G-wagon is a ladder frame not shared with anything

The EQS interior is more like an E-class, and the EQE is like a C-class Plus. Nicer than a C but not on par with E. And the GLC EV has 483 hp according to the rumors, so why buy a 402 hp EQE SUV for more money? You can basically kill all the EQ cars in 2026.

More chargers will help adaptation as well. EV's are probably a better option for 80% of consumers, maybe more. Delivery vans, mail trucks, school busses all make more sense as an EV, commuter cars should be EV's. Pickups used for towing should be diesel. Maybe some ICE sports cars, but the Mustang is down this year after 2024 was its worst year ever so I don't see where the ICE sports car demand even is. Outside of like a $400k Ferrari but that is so limited a market. Tesla will probably never top their 2023 sales volume. They might drop to like 1.5 million units a year or maybe even less and just hover around that volume the next 10 years. The Chinese are kicking their ass on price and the Europeans won't buy them.

Well I pretty much have accepted that I won't be buying a car until 2029 because a Rav4 will probably cost about $60k by summer at the rate we are going.

There need to be more EV's and lower cost ones. Once the Chevy Bolt, Kia EV2, EV3, EV4 type cars come out with lower costs the EV market should pick up. And Mercedes has a whole new EV line coming, GM is still expanding Ultium, Toyota isn't even in the game yet, so once all those guys ramp up there will be a lot of options. I think a lot of the EV pushback is from people that don't want to lose their V8 or sports car, which is a small % of the population or people that know nothing about EVs. Sure people don't want to lose their gas 911. But I can't imagine anyone is saying the 3 cylinder Ford Escape, 3-cylinder Nissan Rogue, 3-cylinder Chevy Trailblazer, are some sort of excellent driving experience and they are going to hold onto poor NVH, underpowered engines that the turbos blow after 100k miles and "you'll have to pry it away from my cold dead hands." Most sub $40k cars are just appliances that an EV with a bad driving experience. Once they get $30-40k EV's out, you'll have Rolls Royce level NVH compared to a Nissan Altima or something it will be night and day.

I have heard people saying they like driving the EQE and EQS, but the looks are just so bad there is no price at when they become desirable. I am very excited for the electric E-class though because it will have the 800 volt NMC battery and it will look the same as the ICE E-class which looks great.

Xiaomi SU7 Ultra - 5,291 lbs - 1,527 hp - 1,305 lb-ft - 391 mile range - Top speed 217 mph - 0-60 in 1.98 seconds - starting price $73,000 Granted the SU7 is a sedan, but this SUV is coming. Based on those specs, Cadillac and the Germans have work to do.

The iX is 0-60 in 4.4 seconds, it is a lot slower than Lyriq-V and $10k more money. I don't know how the interior quality of the iX is, but recent BMW's I think are not as good as the old days. The Lyriq has some cheap materials here and there, but overall is pretty good. I don't care for the rear end design of the Lyriq, but if you want a big 2 row electric SUV it is a good option. I think the Optiq is pretty nice inside for the price, they need a v-series version of that. And I still say, replace the CT4/CT5 with an electric sedan/coupe mid-size car, maybe a little bigger than a Model 3. BMW has an iX M70 with 650 hp, it does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds and priced at $111,000 according to their website. They have the xDrive 60 at a 4.4 0-60 for $88,000. I think the Lyriq is pretty good value. They could up the interior a little bit, but at the price it's okay. It would be nice to make the V-series lighter somehow, but all these EVs are overweight.

The EQ cars are not good. Too heavy, not enough range, too expensive, interiors aren't as nice as the gas equivalent, etc. Luckily they are being killed off in a year or two. The new Mercedes EVs are coming starting this year, CLA with 268 or 375 hp, GLC with 483 hp in 2026, E-class EV in summer 2027. AMG electric super car, AMG sedan, AMG SUV with the Yasa axial flux motors start arriving next year. And the EQS test mule with solid state batteries is on the road which is over 600 mile range, so they can put that into the EV S-class when it arrives. Their EV future all of a sudden looks great.

I meant low cost cars like Sentra, Jetta, Taos, Trax, Maverick, Mazda 3, etc at are made in Mexico. And Honda and Toyota definitely sell Canadian made cars here, I've even seen UK built Civics here. Yes, but even a Pilot or Odyssey is about 70% American parts, 30% of the parts going in will be tariffed. Honda could be okay, Tesla, the VW Buzz are all high American parts content. But no one is immune from the storm, and the tier 2 and 3 suppliers could get hit hard too.

Yeah, Toyota is really strong globally, and has a lot of cash, they can weather a storm. Honda is screwed because their top 2 sellers are made in Canada, but they have a lot of US manufacturing. The Xaiomi SU7 smokes the Plaid all day long, and it outsold the Model 3 in China last year. Tesla is starting to fall behind the Chinese, the Model S should be $45,000 and Model 3 at $29,000 to compete with what the Chinese have. Tesla can't turn profit at those prices. And Elon is scaring the customers away which doesn't help them either.