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Concerned Motorist warned school that bus driver was driving aggressively and erratically the DAY BEFORE THE CRASH

Good Points, DF... I don't know what they were thinking with the Aspen anyway. When it was announced I was like.... This is so doomed to fail.

Oh Sweet Alliteration!

The article really reminds me of something... of course I'm not as worldly as Bob, or PCS (I wish I was)... but I notice that my textbooks in Canada say that the Canadians 'burned the White House to the ground' during 1812 in almost a laudatory fashion. In California textbooks, the White House was burned down 'by accident'.

I thought it was a good read...

@ 98!

787>A380 FTW.

I actually love the rear-end of the new Malibu.

Get Rid of: Nitro Compass Aspen Pacifica T&C Commander PT Cruiser Fix: Sebring Caliber Rename Liberty to Cherokee.

It's more a matter of personal preference. I get the feeling 68 would hate my father... FWD fanatic, sees the B-Pillar as essential. I digress. My dad's been renting alot lately when he goes on the road because we're coming to the end of warranty mileage wise on the Venture and he wants to keep as many miles off as possible. He's driven the W-Triplets Extensively... He likes the GP and the Allure and doesn't like the Impala. More importantly, he, for a 55 year old, likes the floaty ride alot, he's like, well, a bit older than he really is in taste of cars. I'm not saying he's gonna put a landau top on it, but he loves the W-Body for some reason. I wish I could talk him into an Aura with the 3.5, but he just hates Saturn with a passion (he called their customer experience communism once.)

I'd agree with you on the interior, I think that, while it's not laid out as nicely as the Malibu, It does seem quite obviously more well put together. 2008 'bu is pretty much out of the Question. My dad hates fours, and since the car is for him, it would only be considered if it was the six. He wants to spend around 20K, which means we could get a nice leaseback W-Body, either a GP or an Allure, or even a Lucerne CX if we wanted, with low miles, nicely equipped. A 3.6L 2008 'bu is going to approach about 30K up in Canada at least because we are still paying more compared to you lucky Americans who get to pay less for cars (I'm sure the MSRPs will gradually come down). He also doesn't want to buy a car in it's first model year. So yeah, he's a picky bastard and that's why.

Former company lease. Not a rental but a lease for a higher up in a company as it was fully loaded LT2. We've actually had great luck with the ex-rentals and leasebacks we've had over the years (purchased from GM Dealers of course). The 1989 Grand Am, 1994 Trans Sport and the Malibu MAXX were/are all leasebacks or ex rentals, so not afraid of them. I don't think the car's a tin can, but I think it's a matter of my mom getting spoiled by the Epsilon platform for 8 mos.

Not surprised lol... My mom's main gripe is the lack of rear-seat headroom. and keep in mind that it'll be an Ex-Rental, not a shiny GXP like yours... We're talking GP GT vs. Allure CX. Impala is right out (front seats hurt his and my back). 3.8L Motor owns 3500 VVT any day. Also keep in mind that there's another year deductible-free on the bumper to bumper warranty in favour of the Allure. ^^ PCS Driving His Car in Switzerland ^^

Seemed to work well for 10 years in the Cavalier. The car wheezed and shifted rougly... she didn't want to/didn't think it was capable of speed because it had 4 cylinders. The Malibu has, according to her "Whiplash Power" in comparison and she likes the sound of the 3.5 motor in hard acceleration (satisfying throaty sound). What is she doing to the poor thing?

Long Live the W-Body! My dad's a Pontiac man so he likes the GP, but my Mom and I both are prodding him into the Allure/LaCrosse because the interior doesn't have to be black and the exterior design will prolly age better IMO.

If I could donk my Cavalier and get someone to pay that kind of money... I'd buy lowest mileage 1995+ Oldsmobile 88 or 98 I could find and give the rest to charity.

Had my mom and my dad test drive it today... (both the one we were looking at and a new one). Consensus was bad, so I guess H-Body + W-Body Plan for 2008 remains intact. After driving it, my mom called it a Tin Can, my dad called it 'no significant improvement over the J-Body'. My mom went so far as to say the Cavalier was the better car... keeping in mind that after driving the Maxx for a month, she called the Cavalier a piece of crap, it (Cobalt) mustn't have jived with her.

I am well acquainted with the artificial feeling steering... We do have a Malibu, so we are used to this. A new one with all the equiptment lists at 22K MSRP BTW Well I'm not opposed to some Fords and Chryslers, but My dad does have a Bias/Rabid Brand Loyalty (every car but two, that he's ever had had been GM)... So it's either a Cobalt now or a W-Body with similar mileage in February. We also have connections @ the dealer and they might be able to knock even more off that price. I know a deal when I see it, as does my dad. My mom just stays out of it and lets us decide (given she likes the car).

Nope... plenty of money in the bank for us so yeah, just like the Malibu, withdraw 14995 + GST from car account... use it to pay off car immediately.

It was great in '99 when we got our first Venture because gas was only 48 cents a liter, but there isn't any benefit to a 95 Liter tank anymore... period. So what if you can go Calgary --> Vancouver on one tank. It's hardly ever driven on the highway.

1.15 a liter here... costs over 100$ to fill up the Venture.

Are you kidding?! With the exception of a smaller grille, that car would be a great production model!

I drove by one of these in the Cavalier last weekend as it was doing the rounds on my street. My car's gonna be famous!

Well upon going down to the dealer to get the oil changed in the Cavalier this morning, My dad went with me and we decided to wait for the car, so we browsed the showroom to kill time. We checked out a black 2007 Cobalt LT that 'twas fairly well equipped and remarked that it would probably be better for my mother than the Maxx, he current daily car... I think, along with him, that the woman is just dangerous with any more than 4 Cylinders. We were treated to a 20KPH over the speed limit ride yesterday in the Maxx illustrated this thought pretty well... Well I knew that there were some late model DeVilles on the used lot and we waddled out there to check them out. We didn't even get out to the Caddies before a 2007 Cobalt LT2 (1SB) sedan in silver crossed our path. It has 20K kms on it and they want $14900 for it. It has a spoiler, CD/MP3 player, Remote Start, Pioneer Sound System, 16 inch Alloys, XM Radio, steering wheel audio controls, leather wrapped shift knob/steering wheel, fog lamps, Automatic, and the 2.2L Engine, Traction Control, ABS, and Driver Info Center. My dad and I got some specs on it and a GMPP, the car is in good shape, floated the idea we turn in our increasingly frustrating 17MPG Venture a few months early and buy this beauty for my mom, rather than him buying an Allure or GP for himself in Feb. The Maxx and Cav will of course stick around. I don't know alot of Cobalt Owners... but is there anything anyone can say for this car? How is the Cobalt? What were your impressions of it? Is this a good buy? Any help is of course appreciated.

Appears the Driver will be charged in the incident.