Camino LS6

The economy loss is not a biggie, but 25% loss of power seems a bit high to me. The water issue I could see happening with improper storage at the station. Any info would be good to have, pro or con.

No energy drinks for me, they smell nasty! Just lots and lots of strong coffee.

Yes. And your idea sounds awfully familiar to me. :AH-HA_wink: Anyway, let's not forget that Holden is playing with the dual mode hybrid system for the Commodore line. There are ways...

Where's that pic of the blue one that split in half? We could all use it as our sigs for a week or two.

I love this idea!

I'd very much like to know the details on this.

Caffeine and nicotine are two of the major "food groups" for me. :AH-HA_wink:

Man! I could never pay that much attention. I just wing it - always have.

Caleb Carr

Obviously. But that's not really the point. I only used the E-Type as an example because I consider it a rolling work of art. I might just as easily used a current Aston-Martin, the point being that some cars should make the trip.

I have been wondering lately how our anti-trust laws got castrated, seems to me we need them back right about now.

Very premature.

You guys know I have a low opinion of Toyota, but they aren't stupid! They picked a date to announce all of this and you have to have owned the rustbucket in question on that date or before to qualify for the buyout.

On this coast, most of those have long ago decomposed.

You had to know that I'd take issue with much of this post, but I'm sure you know where as well so I won't belabor the point. I will say that certain designs on both sides of the Atlantic should (and should have) made the crossing. I would hate to think that the E-type Jag, for example, might have been kept from us.

I understand the differences, but how much of a problem was there with pedestrian collisions?

I second the nomination! For me, Zeta is perfection. The pricepoint, performance, and size are exactly what I want. I will buy zetas, I will not buy a CTS or 5 series.

In that case, something is wrong with folks in LA. No one, I mean no one, uses a tacoma as a contractors truck in this part of the world. Compact trucks are all but useless for real work, they just don't have the capacity - no matter who builds them.

You've nailed it, Carbiz.

Glad to hear from you, and yes, I know GM has quite alot in the works. I'm just wondering about what they plan for small trucks and SUV alternatives since both will be critical. I do worry about timing, GM often misses the boat there.

The next few years will be a challenge for everyone, not just automakers. This really will be a trial by fire. But when it comes to trucks, no Enzl, I wouldn't choose Toyota's position. Ford seems to be the only truck manufacturer becoming prepared for the new realities in the truck market at this moment. That part of Toyota's business is in disarray, and GM has been too quiet of late to assess where they stand. He who moves most quickly to market with new approaches to the truck sector may become quite dominant. Until GM shows me some serious innovation with smaller trucks, I'd bet on Ford to make this work.

Are you sure that the Acura was stolen?

For the small trucks, I see it this way: - Colorado/Canyon are way outclassed - Ranger is dead - Dakota is way too big - Tacoma is way too big and has a horribly compromised rep now - Nissan isn't much of a player with the Frontier - Isuzu is gone Looks like anyone's game to me.

Not that it really matters in the context of this discussion, but I do wonder what the scope of the "pedestrian issue" was in Europe prior to these regulations. Such collisions are uncommon here.

Have to disagree on the trucks, but they are a very American taste that I wouldn't expect to appeal to you. I know the reasons for the regulations over there, but that in no way explains why you would wish such things upon us. You must know that it creates a styling nightmare. Such protrusions on the front of a car are anything but attractive. It is an interesting reversal of the situation in the early '70s when our bumper regulations ruined the style of both domestic and import cars here.