Camino LS6

The lack of other products I would buy also sort of cheapens the significance of Camaro. Something of a double - homicide from my viewpoint. I'd want a Camaro to be my first choice if I were to buy one, not my only choice.

The insane expenditures on creating Saturn are a huge part of why GM is in such trouble, and why Olds ended up dead. Saturn was a stupid idea as well as a black hole GM threw money into at the expense of every other brand. Saturn should never have existed in the first place.

Good! Nice to get a bit of good news to end the day.

Well, I love the old stuff too. However, that's an option I'd rather not be forced into 100% of the time. I may be keeping my G8 ST forever though should the worst happen. Time to start collecting GTOs and Firebirds again too, I guess.

Only Pontiacs and Chevrolets have ever parted me from my money when it comes to new vehicles. So without Pontiac, I would have exactly one GM car I would actually consider (Camaro). I'm bored just thinking about that. One flippin choice out of so many GM models - pathetic.

I've always liked Camaros, but not as an only choice. When buying a GM performance car, I want something a touch less common yet not much more expensive than a Camaro. So, if this comes to pass, only the trucks will still be of interest to me. I will likely end up in the BMW camp as well - with deep regrets.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion...,0,481881.story

NO. Not good enough.

Let's all hope that cooler heads prevail and this idiocy doesn't come to pass.

The G8 ST will be my third RWD, V8, Performance oriented new Pontiac since 2002. Do they really want to lose me?

You know what the saddest part of this is? If they do this, I will be forced to stop caring. If I no longer care, I will stop influencing all of the people I know in a positive way concerning GM. I will no longer use the fact that a great many folks ask my advice when purchasing a car to point them in GM's direction. The management can claim that we enthusiasts don't matter, but they are dead wrong. Word of mouth is the most powerful sales tool in the world. We enthusiasts act as ambassadors for GM - alienate us and you alienate an exponentially larger group of non -enthusiasts for each one of us. Don't be fools.

Key element of it all. Do this, and you hasten and ensure the complete failure of GM.

That doesn't alter the pure stupidity of this course of action. The plan is composed entirely of FAIL. I'm all for change that makes sense, this doesn't.

Ready to lose us all, PCS?

There is no valid reason for, nor any benefit to, killing Pontiac - period.

Absolutely true, Northie. I'm afraid that I'll be one of them.

Griffon, I am entirely with you on all of your posts in this thread. And FOG, I may be done with GM as well if they do this to Pontiac. I hate stupidity - and that's exactly what it is.

News of more RWD cars on two platforms should be good news, but someone has poisoned the well. Castrating Pontiac is an absurd course of action. If this does happen, I don't think I'll be able to forgive GM for it.

"To the Batmobile!"

That's why I said it that way. :AH-HA_wink:

EPII holds no interest for me. New Saabs and new Cadillacs won't ever make my list either. They just aren't what I want in a car.

... and don't say buy a Cadillac instead - that will never happen. Beyond stupid.

Even more stupid. Brain death describes it perfectly.

Saab does seem utterly pointless in the US.

Not giving Alpha to Pontiac indicates non-functional brain cells in the heads of whatever execs are pushing such a silly agenda. The next Camaro should be on Alpha though - perfect fit. As for Zeta content in the new platform - that wasn't really what I was talking about. But, I'd venture a guess that little or no Sigma will be found there. Which is as it should be considering sigma's age.