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I'm not as enthusiastic about it as most. The front end looks pretty good, but the rest is an odd mish-mash of the other Lambdas, it seems. I'll have to see it in person to really judge. The interior, while nice, still has the black ties! I saw info that said the black ties would be gone soon in the Lambdas. Perhaps the Traverse won't get an integrated radio to save costs initially.

Already posted, please discuss here until pics are released (in 12 mins or is it 24hrs 12 mins?) http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...c=22480&hl=

Perhaps we could just Paypal the people that ordered them and did not receive them back?

I wanted to see the Pats win just to see history, though I don't really care about either team. On that crazy play by Manning, both Pats players were clearly being held (or pulled from behind, whatever, same thing). The play should have never gone into the books.

So much for GM being a global company and working together to be as good of a carmaker as possible... some people just don't get it.

Wow, that thing is sweet. I normally don't care much for trucks, but this thing kicks ass.

Hmm, that is weird. Hacker perhaps? But I don't know why they would chose you... Anywho, I can add your posts back if you really want...

Best selling car, not best selling vehicle :AH-HA_wink:

Accord down? That's surprising. Perhaps the Malibu is stealing a few sales.

Nothing really seemed that great, but it was January. I guess everything was pretty solid across the board to achieve an 11% retail increase.

How was the G8's interior?

Well, if you want something more wild, it should be between orange and green. If you want something more common, red or black. Not as hard now, is it?

That purple is blah... the one on the GTO looked quite good, but this isn't the same.

Black, the red in the back of the pic, blue, or green. Silver is too boring for such a unique vehicle, purple is blah, yellow would get old too quick, and the other red is simply not as good as the other one. Black looks good on most any car, and the red looks pretty nice. Blue is more conservative but still stands out more than silver, and the green is just frickin' cool and goes with the uniqueness of the truck. I'd pick the green, personally. Then either the black or red. Wait... is that orange that I am calling red? Sort of looks like it.

Neither would I, seeing as how there are NG Solstice and Sky models already on track to go on Kappa and NG Corvette and XLR models on Y.

Ugh, the interior is so generic. Reminds me of the Cobalt's.

I don't think anyone signs a contract with eBay so that they must sell the car through eBay...

The Camaro's looks to be of the highest quality and is unquestionably the most unique out of the three, but it's going to take some time to warm up to the design. The Challenger and Mustang interiors are both so boring and generic.

Total scam.

Actually, the GTO sold pretty well. Better than the WS6 Trans Am and Camaro SS a couple years before it. There just isn't a huge market for a $33k coupe these days. The G8 has so many advantages over the GTO: 4 doors, a real trunk, better suspension, 6-spd auto, available V6. The list goes on and on.

The LS1/2 runs on regular, but premium is recommended for best performance. I've never put regular in my GTO.

http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...showtopic=20524 Happy to say C&G reported this 3 months before the next site.

I don't know... what does Cadillac tell all the professional athletes, rappers, movie stars, etc., that have grown accustomed to the Escalade? The aren't going to buy used ones, they'll migrate elsewhere if they have to. It seems every luxury maker besides Acura and BMW have a small ute (BRX), midsize (SRX), and large (Escalade). We'll have to agree to disagree, I guess. Perhaps Pontiac does need the ST, and since it's probably easier to do it as a Pontiac than a Chevy, it is fine to do it that way right now, but in the long run Chevy offers more market coverage, I think (with sport, utilitarian, and basic models). I think Impala and G8 can be well differentiated. Right now, the G8 is too big, IMO. It should be 5er sized, not 7er sized. Alpha = 3er, G8 = 5er, Impala = 7er (or perhaps bigger) in terms of size. By Lucerne/Park Ave I meant one or the other (basically just a name), not both. What do you feel is wrong with the Enclave on Zeta? It seems it could make it more premium than its platform mates, which it should be. I don't know, I think Lambda is more truck-like than Zeta, but we don't know exactly how versatile either platform is. The Ridgeline is fine for running to home depot, and I don't think a Zeta truck is going to be any more capable towing and hauling than a Lambda truck. Lambda is also a bigger footprint to start with.

You have to re-tool when you switch to a new product anyways... introducing these suggested vehicles would be just like making a new version of the vehicle they are replacing on a different platform.

Here is how I think Zeta should be used: Cadillac: New SRX 7-Series/S-Class competitor - this would be modified and all-aluminum/other lightweight metals, or this could go on a stretched Sigma I think the Escalade line should stay on the truck platform. First, they don't sell in that high of volume, and second, there's no reason to mess with success. Finally, all Escalades could get the 4-mode hybrid system. It would add cost, but $5k is pocket change to Escalade owners, anyways. Chevrolet: Camaro (should go on Alpha eventually) Impala El Camino (makes more sense than Pontiac ST) Buick Lucerne/Park Ave Enclave (platform mate with SRX, would help to differentiate from Acadia/Outlook) Pontiac G8 sedan, wagon GTO (it is a tough choice whether to make a GTO or GN for Buick, but I feel that the CTS coupe and Buick coupe might steal sales from each other. The same could happen with the GTO and Camaro, but I feel Pontiac can move upmarket of Chevy, and that the CTS would not be upmarket enough from a Buick coupe, but who really knows...) The idea of a Zeta pickup is interesting, but I'm not sure if it would work. Perhaps a NG Avalanche on a beefed-up Lambda would work, and obviously the El Camino could be done... perhaps there could be two El Camino versions... one sporty (SS is both 3.6 DI form and V8?), one for more truck-like work, and finally one that's rather civilian (2.8 DI or turbo 4cyl?). Perhaps Colorado/Canyon could just be on a beefy Zeta? Zeta does not seem like it is big enough to accommodate a full size truck to me. I think lots of Tahoe buyers will migrate to the Chevy Lambda... so I say keep the Tahoe on a truck platform so it still has good towing capabilities, etc.