Drew Dowdell

3800 is in one of the quietest vehicles on the road today horsepower per liter is a complete red herring and has already been hashed out on this forum multiple times. "can't rev as high" isn't important when all your torque is way down low. Want a weedwacker? Buy a Honda. I drive both a GM pushrod and a GM DOHC and each have their sweetspot. The DOHC is smoother at all speeds north of 75mph. The pushrod is smoother at all speeds south of that. and my pushrod isn't even one of the "good" ones. I curse you to drive a Quad-4 the rest of your natural life.

you could have just said you were initially wrong about the M3 weight instead of making me go through all the trouble of looking up all those statistics just to come up with some sort of reasonably hypothetical number....

just because people pay more for velvet leapord print stretch pants that say prada on them doesn't mean they are better or more stylish.

from what I can see, not a bad evolution

fixed. Jeremy Clarkson said it best when he was comparing the Vauxhall VXR to the 5-series. He pointed to the BMW badge on the trunk and said "That right there is worth at least 30,000£"

have you run over any Honda drivers lately? They tend to make that sort of noise....

Didn't you know you're not allowed to compare cars that may be the same size, have the same performance, have the same features, and have equal quality and options.... but are priced thousands apart? If the car is ~30k and RWD, the only car you're allowed to compare it to is the 3-series. kthnxbye.

Cadillac will never win those buyers because their desire is based on perceived image rather than actual merit.

You really put the ASS in assumption. And of course your numbers are comparing apples to a cheeseburgers again..... The current M3 is 3400s. However, the current M3 is still based on the previous 3-series platform. The old 330ci weighed 3285lbs., but gained 300lbs when it moved to the new 335i platform.... So now the new M3 is looking at a 300lb. weight gain even before you consider that it's moving from an I6 to a V8. The 530i gains 400lbs when it gains the V8 to become a 550i. Now I'm sure that BMW will do some weight saving aluminum bits and pieces here and there, but they can't do 700lbs worth. My assumption is that the M3 will end up right around 4,000 lbs. Considering that the M3 will be anywhere from 80hp to 120hp short of the CTS-V's speculated horsepower, that 200lb weight difference doesn't seem all that big anymore. Now, that is my assumption.... but at least I put some thought and research into it instead of randomly spewing irrelevant or inconsistent numbers around the forum.

I really can't complain about this review... though I do think it's silly to get your panties in a twist over something like keyless ignition in a midsized family sedan without sporting ambitions.

It should almost be expected. Smaller engines with less torque have to work harder accelerating the car. City MPG will suffer. However, on the highway, a smaller displacement engine will generally get better mileage simply by being a smaller engine. And though a $h!ty way to measure performance, the 1.8 has more horsepower per litre than the 2.2 yet about the same ft/lbs of torque per litre.

Not different enough from it's predecessor.

For which one? Even Outlook?

Removing Chevy's fleet sales, but including Japanese fleet sales, the HHR still outsells any japanese model by a significant margin.

take each spark plug wire off, one at a time and replace it before moving to the next, while the engine is running. Note any changes in engine beat. Could be a coil pack.

What is the reliability like on a 3800 turbo?

It's a Cobalt wagon! More than likely there will be another Delta based wagon that gets sold in the next generation.... it's not a dead end!

From you, that is a ringing endorsement

Sounds like you got it taken care of. Sometimes being a bastard is the only thing you've got to hold onto.

My parents had an '86 just like the tire burning burgandy one above. It was an extremely versatile vehicle. The rear seats did a flip and fold that was easier and predated anything in the minivans. The seats would flip up and directly in back of the 2nd row out of the way. Theirs was a 4-cylinder non-turbo with a 5-speed and 4wd. It got somewhere in the mid-upper 30s for mileage on the highway. My dad took it off road semi-frequently. The 4wd would sometimes get stuck on <it was electronically activated> and my dad discovered that putting it in reverse and popping the clutch would take it out of 4wd. The trick started to lose it's effectiveness after a while and there were episodes where you'd see the car hopping backwards down the street while my dad tried his clutch popping trick multiple times. We were the sane ones on the street. It was a sight worthy of our animated gifs thread. One time my sister and I were being picked up from my grandparents by my dad. We drove by what would best be described as a terrain park for off road vehicles. There was this guy in a jeep there showing off and a number of people had gathered by the side of the road to watch. My dad, apparently missing the Jeep he had as his first car, put the Colt Vista into 4wd and started to follow the jeep around the trails. So here you have a Jeep trying to show off and a guy in a grocery getter wagon with two kids in the back following him around. I was probably 10 and my sister 8 so our head were just above the door line. The audience dissipated rather quickly after that. As ugly as the car is, it was a scrappy little vehicle that was perfect for a young family. It was crazy reliable too especially considering the abuse my dad put it through. It's only major issue was a timing belt that broke. My parents traded it in for a 1994 Bonneville at 106,000 miles when it needed it's first clutch in 1996. My mom cried the whole time.

You're a GM fan?

yeah, he's been trying to sell that for a while. I think 98 posted it. It's nice, but it's not $14,500.

My 85 had one that looked like that too. I wonder if it was a dealer installed option or something.

That's a GM press photo... you're just looking for an easy way to make $50.