Drew Dowdell

Interesting.... it's... almost... as if GM is purposely limiting production in order to keep demand and buzz high.... *tinfoil hat time*

hey, if California wants to cede from the Union, I'll help them pack. The last good thing to come out of California was the gold in 1849.

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiii think I'll be steering clear of any shopping malls out Camino's way for a little while....

Damn!

To declare independence also?

GWB will "liberate" them

Only time I've found NAV especially useful was in Europe where I couldn't read the signs.

fuel efficiency doesn't have as much to do with pollution as people hype it up to be. The 3800 is PZEV and so is the Focus 4-cylinder.

I'm betting the replacement for the blackties will be fairly big.

Host problems? What host problems? Have you been licking the server again?* *I can take this joke so many places I'll need a NAV unit to find my way home.

and way to ignore the fact that the German fleets + Honda are larger polluters than GM and Ford.

I don't care what the EPA standard is. My point it political. There is a democratic process we have in this country and California is trying to get around it. Again, you want the stricter standard? Lobby Pelosi... not the Governator.

Yup.... about a week ago.

how's that taste for ya?

You want Euro level emissions standards? Fine, get your Senators and Congressmen <you only have 53 of them> to get a uniform EPA standard on a Federal level. IF it doesn't happen, sorry, that's the way the Democratic process works. Try again next year. And the 3 least polluting manufacturers aren't even for sale in the US. GM comes in at number 6 globally.... ahead of Ford, VW/Audi, Honda, and Mercedes. BMW's fleet is the worst polluter overall. Can you imagine the the revolt when it is found out that BMWs can no longer be sold in California. There would be an uprising with pitch forks and prada shoes <no torches... don't want forest fires> storming the Governator's mansion.

So what ya'll think so far? Faster? Better? There are some software issues that need to be worked out, but thinking about server service, I'm liking it.

Well yes... I suppose it was.... very very slowly... @ Squirrel Hill tunnel traffic....

I can't imagine the costs associated with 50 different emissions standards. Where does California get off thinking they can govern the rest of the states? If California wants this so bad, make the manufacturers create a retro fit kit and charge each and every Californian $1000 for it for being such pompus asses.

suddenbreakoutofcommonsense.com

Ok, so GM will be 1 to 2 MYs behind.... not 5. Remember, it's 30 models by 2009MY... so that like a year away. edit: Could this be coinciding with the "black tie" stereo replacement?

Ugly? Is that the right answer?

A 1985 Lincoln Town Camino...