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Drew Dowdell

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  1. You really shouldn't have made me go look this stuff up. Apparently Ford expected the Mustang Ecoboost to lose 13% of it's power when running on regular instead of 93..... Power drops from 310 hp to 275 hp just by filling it up with 87 instead of 93? Does that mean the 400 hp MKZ will drop to 345 hp if I put 87 in it instead of 93?
  2. Edification? The Suburban has a 6-speed auto just like the Expedition EL. You're thinking of the Yukon with the 6.2 liter that come with the 8-speed. The EX EL only gets close to small V8 fuel economy if you fill it with premium. (Ex EL - 21mpg highway per EPA, Suburban 23 mpg highway per EPA). If you fill the Ex EL with regular, you'll get 17-18 mpg highway. Since you keep bringing up the 6.2 liter (shouldn't have done that), I went and looked up the fuel economy..... it BEATS the 3.5 EB rating of 15 city/21 highway/17 combined by 1mpg on the highway and does it on REGULAR GAS! So you're still better off with the 6.2 over the 3.5 EB. The GM 6.2 liter also has MORE horsepower (55 hp more) and MORE torque (40 lb-ft more), and still bests the EB in fuel economy! So the answer is pretty clear to me - Whichever needs you have in a large SUV: Get the V8. Every day driving with relatively good fuel economy? Get the 5.3. Need towing and good fuel economy without spending $$ on premium fuel? Get the 6.2. If you're towing over 8,100lbs regularly... well then you'll be stuck buying premium fuel 33 gallons a a time or getting 18 mpg on your commute to work in the EX EL.
  3. No, the transmission remains the 6-speed from what I've read.
  4. Yes, defensive. I stated that they get the same fuel economy ONLY IF the Ecoboost gets higher octane fuel of 89 or 91. The 5.3 does the job on regular. The Ecoboost could only manage 18mpg with me on 87 octane where as the Suburban reliably gets 21 - 22 on the same trips. Most people aren't towing ever, and even those who do tow will don't do so regularly. Someone who tows with one of these regularly is the exception rather than the rule. Largely, these are turnpike cruise ships and nothing more. Try not to focus on the feature that is unimportant to most consumers just to try and defend your product. For typical, mundane, every-day, vast majority use, the 5.3 is simply the better package here.
  5. Well their goal, like everyone else's, is to increase market share right? Increased sales lead to increased market share (doesn't always work out like that, but that is the goal). I think that is all the article was implying. Everyone wants to gain market share, but when you're already as big in the US as Ford, GM, and Toyota, there will only be small movements in either direction. Companies with smaller sales numbers simply have an easier time making bigger jumps (Subaru) because they cover fewer segments.
  6. More than half my time spent here is just trying to keep the peace (such as that is), I have to do what I have to do.
  7. Well... sales can be up and market share be flat at the same time. Flat market share is not flat sales. The wsj should know this.
  8. I hadn't even heard of it, so I dunno how widely promoted it was..... but I've been in a bubble the last few months.
  9. I know the numbers are there, but honestly I didn't feel it. It may come into play more when towing a trailer, but in my case of long distance turnpike running, it was simply a non-factor. I didn't feel either were noticeably better on acceleration, I prefer the NVH characteristics of the 5.3 and the fact that I get stated fuel economy on regular gas instead of mid-grade. Neither is bad, I just prefer the 5.3 for my usage cycle and I have thousands of miles in each to satisfy my own opinion. I give higher marks to other EB engines in other applications (Fusion 2.0t v. Malibu 2.0t for example). No need to get defensive if I prefer a non-Ford product from time to time.
  10. I've cleaned up all of the off topic crap. Some of you might want to take a second try at replying. I'm watching.......
  11. You might want to look at what ppl are getting in 2.7L EB F-150 vs 5.3 Chevy/GMC and 3.5L EB vs 6.2L Chevy/GMC. Oh there is also that 5.0L in the F-150 that puts out more HP/torque than the larger 5.3L Chevy/GMC while having higher payload and tow ratingsAnd maybe pop over to Motor Trend and look at their RealMPG section too. I've done thousands of miles in both Expeditions EL and Suburbans. My experience is that the 3.5EB in the Expedition gets the same fuel economy as the 5.3 in the Suburban..... IF you use mid-grade fuel in the Ford. If you use 87 octane, the fuel economy of the Expedition drops substantially. Sooo, the power of a big V8 and the fuel consumption of a small one. Not bad. " But the small-block’s 4100-rpm torque peak never provided the instant thrust of the Expedition’s boosted V-6, nor the pull we expected from its burly exhaust note. " Use too much of that instant thrust and you'll pay for it at the pump especially if you're filling up with the recommended 89 octane. It's either Eco or Boost... but not both at the same time. Sorry, I just got better overall results from the 5.3 than the 3.5 EB over 1,000s of miles in each.
  12. Just start thread banning people who talk about irrelevant crap for 5 pages in every thread. Throw that hammer 'round. <- That, that hammer.
  13. Do I have to bring out the Let it Go video again?
  14. My argument is if one need to put 20-25k on the hood of a limited edition car to move it, obviously it was a rip of to begin with. And take a look at the as tested price in the video. It clearly shows a 10k difference. So yes, it is IN FACT correct. They don't need to put the cash on the hood. The 20% off is only available to the 10% of the dealer's stock by age.... so the 10% oldest new vehicles on the lot get that deal and GM isn't excluding the Z28 from eligibility. Let's not act like this is a deal on Z28 Specifically, because it's mostly going to be on manual transmission Cruzes and 2015 Volts. Buick did something similar last year. My Buick dealer had a Regal Premium hanging around that hadn't sold. The bought it themselves turned it into a CPO car and sold it for under MSRP while still making a healthy profit. So good luck finding even a single Z28 out there that meets ALL of these criteria and ALSO hasn't been put through the dealer trick above. And you better act fast... the 20% off ends today. Theres 9 shown right here that range from $51,913 to $55,977 http://jalopnik.com/on-black-friday-go-buy-yourself-a-camaro-z-28-with-a-r-1744593201 9 in a search radius of 1,000 miles.... or 9 in 785,398 square miles. And it ends at close of business today.
  15. You might want to look at what ppl are getting in 2.7L EB F-150 vs 5.3 Chevy/GMC and 3.5L EB vs 6.2L Chevy/GMC. Oh there is also that 5.0L in the F-150 that puts out more HP/torque than the larger 5.3L Chevy/GMC while having higher payload and tow ratingsAnd maybe pop over to Motor Trend and look at their RealMPG section too. I've done thousands of miles in both Expeditions EL and Suburbans. My experience is that the 3.5EB in the Expedition gets the same fuel economy as the 5.3 in the Suburban..... IF you use mid-grade fuel in the Ford. If you use 87 octane, the fuel economy of the Expedition drops substantially. Sooo, the power of a big V8 and the fuel consumption of a small one. Not bad. Er... no... it has about the same horsepower as the 5.3. ... and only the same fuel economy if you use more expensive fuel. On 87, I only get 18mpg highway in the Expedition EL (I do 90% highway). The Suburban is a reliable 21-22 mpg highway over the same routes regardless of what I do. The Expedition EL will only do that if I use 89 or even better, 92.
  16. My argument is if one need to put 20-25k on the hood of a limited edition car to move it, obviously it was a rip of to begin with. And take a look at the as tested price in the video. It clearly shows a 10k difference. So yes, it is IN FACT correct. They don't need to put the cash on the hood. The 20% off is only available to the 10% of the dealer's stock by age.... so the 10% oldest new vehicles on the lot get that deal and GM isn't excluding the Z28 from eligibility. Let's not act like this is a deal on Z28 Specifically, because it's mostly going to be on manual transmission Cruzes and 2015 Volts. Buick did something similar last year. My Buick dealer had a Regal Premium hanging around that hadn't sold. The bought it themselves turned it into a CPO car and sold it for under MSRP while still making a healthy profit. So good luck finding even a single Z28 out there that meets ALL of these criteria and ALSO hasn't been put through the dealer trick above. And you better act fast... the 20% off ends today. But doesn't that still make it a "rip off" Drew, as some claim here? Only as much as the $10k plus in dealer markup the Shelby will get
  17. You might want to look at what ppl are getting in 2.7L EB F-150 vs 5.3 Chevy/GMC and 3.5L EB vs 6.2L Chevy/GMC. Oh there is also that 5.0L in the F-150 that puts out more HP/torque than the larger 5.3L Chevy/GMC while having higher payload and tow ratingsAnd maybe pop over to Motor Trend and look at their RealMPG section too. I've done thousands of miles in both Expeditions EL and Suburbans. My experience is that the 3.5EB in the Expedition gets the same fuel economy as the 5.3 in the Suburban..... IF you use mid-grade fuel in the Ford. If you use 87 octane, the fuel economy of the Expedition drops substantially.
  18. That Continental sold in fantastic numbers, well beyond what the V8 Seville did... and also far far greater than the V8 RWD Continental before it. I know what you're trying to say, but at the same time you picked a poor example to try and make your point.
  19. My argument is if one need to put 20-25k on the hood of a limited edition car to move it, obviously it was a rip of to begin with. And take a look at the as tested price in the video. It clearly shows a 10k difference. So yes, it is IN FACT correct. They don't need to put the cash on the hood. The 20% off is only available to the 10% of the dealer's stock by age.... so the 10% oldest new vehicles on the lot get that deal and GM isn't excluding the Z28 from eligibility. Let's not act like this is a deal on Z28 Specifically, because it's mostly going to be on manual transmission Cruzes and 2015 Volts. Buick did something similar last year. My Buick dealer had a Regal Premium hanging around that hadn't sold. The bought it themselves turned it into a CPO car and sold it for under MSRP while still making a healthy profit. So good luck finding even a single Z28 out there that meets ALL of these criteria and ALSO hasn't been put through the dealer trick above. And you better act fast... the 20% off ends today.
  20. It's actually a mostly brand-wide discount. It could be 20% off a malibu or camaro.
  21. The rules aren't crazy... Piech just felt they didn't apply to him. No one else seems to be having emissions issues so far, but they use DEF tanks. This was about saving $345 per car in their bid to become the biggest auto manufacturer in the world.... now look where that got them.
  22. There is no more XF-R.... there is an R-Sport, but that's the S/C V6 The TurboV6 v. V8 replacement scenario is very segment specific. Ford has been getting a lot of marketing traction with theirs in the F-150, but having driven a few, I'm not convinced of the advantage over a V8 in that application. In the lighter mid-size sedan segment, the Turbo-6 makes a lot more sense as there is a lot less mass to be hauling around. In the F-150, the Turbos spool up a bit more often just to keep the vehicle moving at highway speeds..... in the CTS the turbos are basically at near idle and 2 of the cylinders shut down. The CTS V-Sport ends up being just as fast as the 550I but more fuel efficient.... a situation that is very likely to be repeated in the larger CT6 3.0TT.
  23. My rental today is a brand new Maxima.
  24. Japanese - Infiniti Q50 - No V8 Acura RLX - No V8 Lexus GS - No V8 Americans - Cadillac CTS - No V8, but the top V6 matches the 550i 0-60 of 4.5 seconds Lincoln MKZ - No V8 Chrysler 300C - V8 Tesla Model S - No V8 Europeans - BMW 5-Series - V8 Mercedes E-Class - No V8 Audi A6 - No V8 Jaguar XF - No V8 Maserati Ghibli - No V8 So when you say "most manufacturers in the segment offer a V8" you really mean 2 out of the 12 (or 11 if you don't care to count Tesla) and one of them is a Chrysler..... that's most? And you work for a bank? No wonder bank fees are so high! The moment you say "but but... AMG!... Audi S6!", I get to say CTS-V and your entire trolling argument gets trashed...... and if you don't want to count the extreme sport models, then only BMW and Chrysler offer V8s.... Of which the Cadillac Turbo V6 matches (the 550i) or beats (300C Hemi) in acceleration. Cadillac DOES offer a V8 in the segment and the Twin Turbo Cadillac V8 is coming for the segments above the CTS ... stop saying Cadillac doesn't or won't offer V8s when you know that to be false..... last warning about the trolling.
  25. So I worked on it most of the afternoon and I think we're all set. A nice side effect is that the site seems a bit faster after the tuneup.
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