Sixty8panther

HAHAHAHHAAHA!!! "Hondas suck" thread no. 395821 Hey Honda, ever heard of "battery run down protection?" I would have thought those elitist pricks would have such a taken for granted modern convenience.

Sooooooo...... why the silence all of a sudden? Like Oldsmoboi said, buying the Camry Hybrid is a SERIOUS snafu if the ultimate goal is to have a quiet, comfortable, reliable car with low ownership costs and high MPG. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, good luck with THAT mess. $6000 for a new set of batteries? All f&&&ing set, THanks!

Bitchin. I wish I still had my '68 Camaro.... but then it would NOT be getting restored since I did not have that kind of money. So long as this car is rock solid inside & out, esp. the rear stamped rails and the sub-frame, then it's a good deal. Not exactly a steal but then again all muscle-cars are overpriced these days. Good luck, BUY IT!

S10s were not improved at all in terms of reliability, durability or practicality with the 1995 refresh. My 1991 was an absolute rock solid truck. Loved that little beater. 4.3/5-speed/4x4.

The M30 is three times the money. I'm not interested in a payment and so it has to be cash, the M30 would leave me broke AFTER selling the Banana if I can get $3000, on the other hand the Cavalier ragtop would leave us enough for registration/title/insurance & dare I say a certain rat-rod-potential 1961 Cadillac I've had my eye on for a couple years.

That's the T.W.C.C. Murder Car Cadillac... when she was my daily driver I got 6-8 mpg. So I averaged it out...

That's the saddest freekin post I've read since GM decided to make the new Camaro a lame 2 door sedan instead of a bitchin' hardtop Camaro If this is for real and not some disgusting joke, than I'm speechless. A Camry Hybrid? I'd rather drink a gallon of dexcool and drill a fu*king hole in my head with a dull masonry bit. Do I find the current Buick lineup to be lacking and bland? YES. But that's no reason to sell your soul to The Toyopet & the Rising Sun.

Yeah, true dat. Sugar in the raw > fake bleached $h!

Well in any case, any guy who's family owns two LS1 powered Camaros is welcome on this forum. PlumCrazy was an incredible artist. I often had similar ideas as his sketches but my talent to put PENCIL to PAPER was nowhere near his. It was always fun to see him post "just a little I whipped up on my lunch break"

There's bad examples of ANY car out there. I LOVE '67/'68 Cadillacs, but I would not want to pay money for one that was driven/abused/puked in by some alcoholic looser who forgot to change the oil except for every 8,500 miles or so. The accident my dad was in would have surely KILLED him if it had been some Japanese car with a lighter unibody structure, thinner sheet metal & a shorter & much less resilient front end. Honda makes some lightweight stuff.... which is good if you are going to go fast down a smooth road, but try taking a hard collision and having a telephone pole, or tree fall on your roof and you might wish you were in the (by comparison) heavy, slower, less nimble & more cumbersome J-body. As far as your 2003 Cavalier I swear towards the late 1990s & early 2000s it was almost as if the Cavalier & Sunfire were DE-EVOLVING. I'm actually of the belief that the earlier J-body cars were better overall in quality & durability. I once saw a gold 1984? Cavalier Sedan with an auto trans, that had all of its major mechanical components like engine, trans etc. & the odometer showed almost a 1/4 of a million and it was in MUCH better shape overall than most Acuras or Lexuses w/ that kind of millage. (or certain black Dodge Shadows )

I've seen those small crappy-res pics a few times over the past few years... yet to see a nice clean BIG photo of the Cadillac Camino. Hey, here's an idea as a spring board off this thread...? 2010: "Baby EXT" off Zeta to share Holden/Pontiac's UTE chassis with CTS nose. I wish. And Balthazar: As far as that '76 CDV made-Cabalero: a white bed, man I guess if there's a less practical car out there (hard to keep clean) than my '77 CDV this is IT.

HEY DF: Tomorrow morning at about 9:30 or 10:00am XP and I are going to the Junkyard that we do not speak of to size up the rat-rod potential of the '61 Cadillac that has stolen my heart. What say you? You in? We have not had a Tight Whip$ mini-roadtrip in many a moon.

BV also thinks G-bodys and S-10s suck soooo... sorry I'm not going to trust him much. And with all due respect my family had many a J-body, my first car was a almost new 1994 Pontiac Sunbird coupe, and you know what? For a FWD $h!box the J-body owes me NO apologies. My dad's 1989 Cavalier sedan under-steered across a patch of black ice & into a telephone pole at about 45mph. Then the telephone pole BROKE at a rotted section about 9 feet in the air & FELL directly on top of the Cavalier's roof while my dad was still inside afraid to get out of the car since there were LIVE wires shooting about the ground like as if the freekin Emperor Darth Sidious was punishing Luke. After all that, a busted nose, and caved in roof the car still ran & could have been driven, and having seen it with my own two eyes at the impound when they declared it a TOTAL LOSS, sitting there with a intact but severely caved in greenhouse and a telephone-pole shaped dent 14 inches into the hood I'm going to say if I was to buy a small econobox from the past two decades & FWD was not as much of a turnoff I'd take a Cavalier or other J-body over most other cars.... Dodge Shadows & Toyota-Geos w/ salvage titles INCLUDED! :wink:

Moxie is the $h!. Originally formulated in 1884, TWO years before CocaCola, it was meant to be a cough syrup. "elixir" Anyway ask Dodgefan how many Moxies our budy Tall-Paul & myself drank on our roadtrip to Tulsa OK last summer. Here's a hint: it was a LOT more than you can count on both hands.

Sooooooo had a root-canal at the dentist yesterday due to a cracked tooth. I hate the dentist. I'd rather get 500 tetanus shots & 500 MRIs than go in for ANYTHING at the dentist. My teeth are wicked sensitive and I have had some horror-movie experiences at the dentist. SERIOUSLY. Blood and all! So anyway I'm a little delusional, maybe that explains the following: I'm considering buying Julie a FWD car, on my own accord. Let me repeat myself: I'm considering buying a FWD car. Scary I know. It's a topsy-turvy world out there. Either way she's doing a lot of complainign a bout the the size of the RoadmOnster, esp. the width. B-bodys got some WIDE track proportions. Anyway, either way once a few other things are squared away (like the move to a townhouse!) I'll be on the prowl for another car. I have been "working" on this 1988 Mercedes Benz 300CE that is "sort of for sale, maybe... soon, I think" locally. It's a black little beat up used MB that needs some TLC but it IS a hardtop so I've been thinking that would be Julie's next car. She's not picky so I have to be picky FOR HER. But I have an opportunity to buy a rough but solid 1989? Chevy Cavalier Z24 convertible with a white leather interior & a auto trans. (sjhe can't drive a stick) The thing is I could get the car for just under $900. That's nine Benjamins. Eighteen Grants. Forty-five Jacksons. Im tempted. It would be a fun car for the summer, $h! it would get better milage than the Roadmaster too. Plus if & when I'd get her something else I'd flip it for a PROFIT. Very on the fence.... FWD is the D666VIL but a fantastic deal is a fantastic deal. The other possible candidate for her is a 1991 Infiniti M30.

Do you understand the differance between a FRAME on a BOF vehicle that is thick & beefy like an I-beam used to construct a multiple story building, & a UNIBODY, lightweight $h!box like some '70s Corolla or Pinto? Strut towers, floor boards, rear quarters & even roofs should be completely rotted through FOUR or FIVE times by the time the FRAME on a BOF car is. My '92 Buicks' 1/4 panels, floorboards, rocker panels, gastank straps, door edges & even some of the lightweight hardware used on the radiator support & suspension components are rotted like the Titanic and yet the frame shows MAYBE a 5% loss of structure due to some minor bubbling in a select few places. Even the base of the Roadmaser's B-pillars have rot holes for krissake and ONCE AGAIN the frame is SOLID!

Global warming is three things: - propaganda, spun to the agenda of many a hypocrite - mass hysteria turned into a money making venture - and LASTLY a simplified, skewed perspective of a half truth

Step one: buy new/used car. Step two: make three extra copies of the keys. One for a spare (file cabinet) one for the wife and one set that gets duct tapped/twisty tied in a semi-accessible but secret location for exactly this kind of situation. Behind rear bumper, by the hood release, or, in pre-1971s where the hood is able to be opened when the car is locked: under the hood somewhere like under/by/next to the windshield washer fluid or coolant reservoir....

You Sir Cort, are a mad man. Best of luck on all those road trips, I'm visciously jelaous! )

Those DOHC, 32-valve Supercharged High-rev-tuners of the early 1930s are pretty cool but I like to "get my 32-valves on" a different way... via Cadillac. No, I'm NOT talking about the 4.6 liter DOHC Northstar V8 powered modern Cadillacs. I'm talking about the ultimate in wheeled transportation: OHV 452 cu. in. V16 powered Cadillacs! Smoooooth like a extra milky chocolate bar from Lindt.

I might (soon) buy a '46 Streamliner 4dr sedan that looks 93% identical. (color and condition aside) $4000 obo, rough but drivable. If I buy it it will NOT be for anything near $4K.