Sixty8panther

THe angle and placement would make or break the Riviera's lines. I'll try to chop them on an Egg for ya. :wink:

You can't trade in a 1997 STS at the auction if you still have a lienholder. Trust me if a B-body was in the cars somehow I'd go for it. I already told Marcia that if this Q does not work out I'm going looking for a 1996 Fleetwood Brougham. I think the last gen. Caddy B-body is just about the only modern luxury sedan that embodies style, elegance & modern design better than the Q or a Lincoln Town Car. I'd also consider a low milage T.C. or even a Crown Vic. but Marcia is not a fan of Fords, and honestly for the money the Q is more bang for the buck, even if my repair bills end up higher.

Right, but if I sell the Camaro and pay of the STS I end up with very little if any money for a 59 Buick. As much as I know I'm upside down on the STS replacing it with a slightly higher payment and stepping up to a newer car that I find much more enjoyable makes it less painful to "loose" money on it. The Bitch of it is that if I pay off the Caddy I'd be using $3000 cash to do what a low increase in monthly payment will do in the next few years. These days auto loans are easily refinanced so I can get rid of excess interest. We have very few other debt these days, just like maybe $2000 combined between 3 credit cards. This tax season Marcia did very well and almost doubled her clientele this year while we just might go down about 500 in terms of monthly bills once we get the hell out of here... a $250 car payment versus $167 is not going to break the bank. Honestly I think the STS and a 1999 Q45t are worlds apart. And it's not because the Q is better built in terms of being Japanese, it's just a much more traditional uxury car with much more practicality built in.

Goood point Ocnblu.... when priciing out a Cobalt online I remember them costing $80,00 so they better be replaced under warranty!

That paint job is gawdawful, esp. in with those electric shaver grilles. Perhaps reversed it might look good. I like the concept of accentuating the Arrowhead.

Tuesday

I think my Datsun is on it's 1438th set of floor mats. I have a generic set on the bottom and a set of Chevrolet stamped rubber ones on top of those. If I ever stuff a V8 in it I'll put the ones out of my Camaro.

Here's my latest, I'll do yours tomorrow RKM. My newest whip got complemented today, I think. A guy walked into the Computer Whiz place I was picking up my recovered data and he asked "who's pimpin' car out front?" Since the Q was parked next to Bob's STS I was like the Cadillac? He says "No the Infiniti" so I told him I just bought it and he says "that's a very sharp car, looks like something Saddam would drive". Thanks I guess. WTF? I guess he meant a big black Japanese or German Sedan with tinted windows and conservative styling.

Maybe cause potential buyers have test driven them. We had a tealish one at Bill DeLuca Chevy that came in on trade. Just for $h!s & giggles I drove it and found it to be quite lame. Perhaps it was the short wheelbase becasue it was bouncy, cramped and lacked and usable power. Honestly I think if it had been a 5-speed it might have been a lot more enjoyable but as it stands it had this 2-dr Kia Sephia vibe since it was an automatic. Japanese cars are extra-super lame if they've got four bangers and auto trans. most of them have $h! for torque and low end HP and an automatic exasperates this problem.

Hmmmm... western PA huh? Wonder if BlackViper knows this guy?

like you said the Datsun is not going to get me enough cash to make a diff. As far as putting the STS back on the road... I honestly can not justify the cost of reregistration and insurance since I'd have to do at least 2 of the 4 O2 sensors, air pump & some associated electronics (plus the air ride shocks I already bought), a windshield (including the rain sensor B.S) and at lest one wheel bearing. In the end I'm left with a $167/month payment on a car that looks like crap (tree sap ate the paint when the broad kept parking under the pine trees against my firm advice) and to top it all off the car burns more oil than a Duramax Diesel. I honestly would rather pay another $100 a month more than keep that car. The vandalized windshield as the last straw on the camel's back.... I wanted to ditch the car before but after that I just have nothing but feelings of bad karma with that poor Caddy. This is not completely a knee-jerk reaction.... I've been thinking about a 2nd Q45 since about a week after I bought it. I'd consider a 94-96 one if I could finance it but that's next to impossible. I honestly think that the Q is just about perfect for what I want for a daily driver these days. Yes it's Japanese but other than it's lack of BOF construction it's pretty much a modern day iteration of a Roadmaster. Seriously it's got a super-hefty curb weight, a decent V8, soft as a down pillow ride, luxurious interior and sharp but conservative styling coupled with RWD and a traditionla proportions.

That's a great sig! Monte04: It's in need of a wiring harness, about $2000 worth of small cosmetic pieces, rear quarters, and some idiot punched a sunroof into it back in the 1970s. Worse of all the brakes are $h!... everythig except the pedal is crap. Litteraly. It has the original non-power 4-wheel drums on it... except for about a year now I've had only the fronts hooked up. No rears at all. If I sell it for $4000 wiht the motor I'l be happy.... $2500 and I keep the motor would be ideal.

Dont like the grille... the bar takes up 60% of it... retarded

BV: My Datsun has a nissan 240Z derrived inline six.... and that's 2.4 liters too! But you already knew that. :wink:

Wow... his first car was an 1985 Tercel!

Yes indeed I have been all over the map. If I did not have to hear the G/F complain about my quirky fleet I'd just keep the Datsun for a beater & buy another BOF boat for like $1500. Like a high milage Roadmaster wagon. The thing is she's got this huge anti-wagon (& esp. minivan) stigmata. But even that plan is thwarted by my STS. I still owe about $2900 on that piece of work, os I kind of have to finance somethign so I can roll in that payoff and get rid of the STS since I' m a lttle upside down. I was all about the Cobalt until XP told me about this Q45t, then when I took a look at it I got the whole anti-FWD car thing again that I've had since my teen years. I wanted so bad to purge my fleet of the STS because it's FWD and now I'd be getting another FWD car. The Q was very appealing so I just put it on the back burner in my mind, kind of like let fate decide. Then one day recently I showed Marcia a photo of this 99 Q45t and she pretty much said she's much rather have another Q than a economy car. So now as it stands we decided that if we can pick up the Q for about $240 or so we'll do it, but if the payment on the Q starts looking more like $280 then we just might buy an supercharged Cobalt SS. In the end which ever car we go with we'd still have two nice cars for a combined payment of $390 -$450. That's about what a few of our friends are paying monthly for ONE new-ish car. Not a bad deal. The way things work in Mass is that weather you drive a new car or used car you get fu#%ed on insurance so I'm sick of driving two 20 year old cars, one late 90s one and my 68 and paying $3000 a year. Also, the 59 will go on antique plates... screw paying for vanities again. my PANTHR plates cost me exactly 4 times as much as standard plates! The Volvo is getting junked in short order. I'd already have junked it for the $100 Holland's gives if Marcias's brother had come by to grab the parts he wants off of it.

Hey Cort... I'm listening right now. Several great songs thus far. I'm not a big country fan but some of the Country songs you've played were very enjoyable.

oh, and as far as the house it's a long story... there's a good chance we're basically going to end up adding a big separate addition on Marcia's grandmothere's house and live there. This will be a great move financially and it will work out in terms of babysitting etc. The only thing that sucks is that there's only enough room to build a 2 or possibly 3 car garage... I was really hoping for a barn so I could plot & execute my crazy car ideas like a BMW 2.8 I6 & 5-speed swap into my Maxima. This would mean that I'd get space enough for the '59 and that's it. Oh well.

Balthazar: You posteed while I was responding to Petra... Well... this second Q will not really be a 4th car. The Datsun has been great to me as a daily driver but I can not continue to drive it 2,000 miles a month. It's got 154,000 miles on it as of last week and the clutch, front brakes, shift linkage and RR wheel bearing will need to be done in just a few thousand miles. It's a fine back up car but now that Marcia's rollin' in a nice luxury car again I'm starting to wonder why I drive a cramped little econobox everyday. The Datsun started off as a good-MPG little long distance runner. Mean time I have to get rid fo the STS... 143,000 miles and tons of bull$h! in need of service. If I had known about the whole reg-to-synthetic-to-reg oil fiasco that caused my poor STS to burn like a a quart every 200 miles I'd have never bought it. At least I did manage to find out that it's not the car's fault. Cadillac is not to blame for 90% my STS's problems except for the FWD. So this leaves me in a position where I HAVE to trade the STS. If it was just me and Marcia and there was no need to transport Sofia in the car and we lived in Arizona or whatever I'd buy a 1959 Buick in heartbeat for a daily driver, but that's not realistic. Whatever money I get for sellign some of my toys and ebay-junk plus whatever I fetch for the Camaro I'll put into a '59. That sale will be cash. I know you can finance a classic car these days but I think it's silly. I'll probably end up wiht about $5000 to spend on a 59. I've got one I'm going to look at up in Maine for $5900. First thing's first, I gotta sell the Camaro.

Well I must say Petra nailed it... the Q is so very plump, old school and cumfy that I can excuse the lack of a "1" in the first digit of the VIN. At the moment I think we're on fillup #7 wiht the Q... tomorrow I'll grab the receipts (with the milage noted) and figure out my MPG for comparisons' sake. I'm thinking 18 or so for the Q. The STS averaged about 18 year round but is a lighter car and more aerodynamic, althought the northstar's 4.6 liters is a half litre more than the Q's little baby 215 wannabe. Ocnblu: Yeah the G/F loves the decklid spoiler but to me it's kind of cheesy. Not a big deal though, but the electronic shocks in the Q45t are probably just as much of a bitch as the STS's but screw it at least it's RWD and big. Caprice: Maybe I'm bored or something... I don;t know. I've been driving, buying & selling used GMs for half a decade now... first my 1994 Oldsmobile then my Grand Am, then my 1997 Grand Am, 1968 Camaro, 1987 Fleetwood Brougham d'Elegance, 1983 Firebird, 1997 Cadillac STS, 1991 Blazer, 1990 Suburban, 1986 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, then I had possesion of the 79 Coupe DeVille or a while and in the mean time I'm working on other people's cars all the time. I'm going to hopefully own a 1959 Buick soon. That will be more than enough to keep me busy. Betwen all these cars I'm always dragging home and working on I can never focus my energy on one car and do it 100% right. I'm always cuting financial corners and I can not and will not do that wiht my '59. The Qs, if we get the 2nd one will get me from point a-to-b and in the mean time I can concentrate 100% of my energy on the Buick. Frankly, that's all the GM car I need. I think a 1950s classic pretty much makes any car I've ever owned look like a Corolla. (except the Camaro)

Now that's a TIGHT WHIP!!!

While we're at it can we bitchslap the Douchebag who made Chevy pull the Jumpin Jack Flash Corvette ad? God that made me so damn mad I wanted to go to her house and pour a handfull of sand inot the oil fill of her car... undboubtedly she drives a Camry or Sienna. For what it's worth I'd love to buy a Mini Cooper S but will never be caught dead in a Caliber. I think the Caliber has busy-disproportionate & chintsy styling. It's very S. Korean looking to me. Off topic: Very, very cool sig. Hats off to you for having the coolest daily driver on C&G.

Asking $995? Tell you what... offer him $1700 but do not give him any more than $1300. Or did you mean spend after a few repairs etc... ?

Hmmmm.... good to know. Thanks. I'll just stick with ignoring some people's posts the old fashioned way, that way I'm not perplexed about missing responses or holes in the dialogue.

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