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I'm fine with all of that, but you're saying the government should be allowed inside my house to check for my gun safe? Or if something bad happens they can then check and see if you had a safe or not(which would be too late)?  How do you go about a mental health check? Because, I think this is easily the most important aspect and issue here. Do you have continued checks yearly? every X years?  IL has concealed carry training(which I've gone through) but they do not have training to just buy a gun. I'm not opposed to some form of training prior to purchasing your first firearm.  It's wild in some states. So I obviously work in Missouri and live in Illinois (I've said this before) and therefore I've had coworkers live in MO. We've talked about this in the past and its insane how easy it is to buy a gun in Missouri. Anybody can just go buy a gun and walk out with it that day. In Illinois you must have a FOID card prior, 72hr (or a week - I think it's changed sometime in the last 10 years), and there's a background check prior to the waiting period.  I'm not asking what other countries do. I'm asking what YOU would do about the problem. You're very vocal about the problem but you don't state what you would do to fix it. It's easy to say there's a problem but offer no solution.  And yes, I am open to ideas. Why wouldn't I? 

No you are not.  But just to entertain you.  You have access to the internet? OK...google on how other countries deal with gun ownership. Do not do the lazy thing like you did with Charlie Kirk... Only look at what looks good for you and is all happy for you to look at.  Dig deep.  Deeper than what 'research' you did with Charlie Kirk to come up with such a useless answer as to why you thought Charlie Kirk was a good debater and a good semaritan. Charlie Kirk said that he is comfortable with a few gun deaths a year JUST to keep the freedom of owning guns a right for American citizens... As it happens, a Greek guy got shot in a Starbucks in Laval (a Montreal suburb city just north of the island. Montreal is an island) 3-4 days ago.  Early.  Almost noon. It had people inside. Innocent people.   42 year old thug.  He was part of a mafia gang of some sort. Did contract work for the mafia. What mafia? Italian mafia? Who the phoque cares? He sold drugs. Extorted money. Possibly did murder for hire also.  Called himself Bob the Greek.  Now he is no longer Bob the Greek but Bob the dead phoquing Greek.   Good phoquing riddance but I digress. Well...it starts with the community and the society.   The Laval community was disgusted by this blatant disregard for human life. For public safety.  The cops also. Nobody liked the fact that gun violence happened. In public. Where innocent people were.  Our society does NOT want guns to go away. It is ALSO our RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS TO OWN guns. But OUR society also does NOT want gun violence to continue.  We do NOT have any NRA type factions dictating to us that we should have open carry laws.     We are NOT immune to school shootings. In Montreal, we have had 2.   Anyway, we keep on REMEMBERING the first one where WOMEN were murdered JUST because they were in engineering school.  Our school shooter was one of the first incel phoques to come around.  This happened on December 6 1989.  1989.  1989.   Ecole Polytechnique massacre it is called.  We KEEP on REMEMBERING the victims.  We keep on REMEMBERING the cause and WHAT to do to ELIMINATE this kind of behaviour. YOUR society puts Charlie Kirk on a pedestal.  Did you do your research on Charlie Kirk to see what kind of misogynistic phoque he really was? What kind of bigoted rhetoric he was spewing. The hatred he lead people to have? Well...it starts from that.  PHOQUE the laws... Change YOUR society.  Change your attitude about gun violence as a society. Start with that.    Trump putting ICE agents in your cities, having Charlie Kirks and fake phoquing priests garner AR-15s, having the NRA say that teachers need to start carrying guns to protect themselves and their students need to be changed. Reverse THAT ideology.  Start with that... 

Excellent question and one I think is answered by our own history during the world wars. It seems that our own Military had a clear rule of no guns for populations other than those that go through special training for hunting. Japan is a perfect example of this; the violence is minimal and mostly done with things that are not gun based. The days of wild west frontier are over and as such we really do not have a need for guns in the way it was viewed back at the start of our country 249 years ago. Second Amendment needs to be amended to include REQUIRED Training, Required Gun Safes for those that choose to buy a gun. Required review to understand the need to own a gun which includes mental check.  I have no problem with guns, gun ownership, I have a problem with the current NRA and all the crazy gun nuts that think there should be no rules or requirements for gun ownership. As such, the bulk of gun violence happens in Red states. So maybe there needs to be better education and stricter requirements about gun ownership. @oldshurst442 Brings up a good point on other countries and since I mentioned Japan where I went to college, here are their requirements, heavily dictated by McArthur after the surrender to the U.S. from WWII. Gun ownership in Japan is highly restricted, governed by strict laws that prioritize public safety and minimize gun violence. Legal Framework The Firearm and Sword Possession Control Law, enacted in 1958, regulates all aspects of gun ownership in Japan. This law has undergone numerous revisions to tighten restrictions and ensure public safety. Key points include: Types of Firearms Allowed: Only shotguns and air rifles are permitted for civilian ownership. Handguns are completely prohibited, with no exceptions for self-defense or hunting.  Licensing Process: Obtaining a firearm license in Japan is a rigorous process that includes: Background Checks: Comprehensive checks are conducted to assess the applicant's history and character. Mental Health Evaluations: Applicants must undergo psychological assessments to ensure they are fit to own a firearm. Mandatory Training: Individuals must complete training courses on firearm safety and handling.  Storage and Transport Regulations: Firearms must be stored securely, typically in a locked safe, with ammunition stored separately. Transporting firearms requires them to be unloaded and stored in a locked case.  Greek Requirements: Gun ownership in Greece is regulated by strict laws, requiring licenses for various purposes such as hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. Legal Framework Gun ownership in Greece is governed by Law 4171/2013, which outlines the requirements for obtaining a gun license and the types of firearms that can be owned. Citizens are allowed to own firearms for specific purposes, including hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense, but must adhere to strict licensing requirements.  Licensing Requirements To obtain a gun license in Greece, applicants must meet several criteria: Age: At least 18 years old for hunting weapons and 21 years old for other firearms. Background Check: No criminal record or history of mental illness. Medical Examination: Pass a medical and psychological evaluation. Training: Complete a firearms training course. Legitimate Reason: Provide proof of a valid reason for owning a firearm, such as hunting or self-defense.  Types of Firearms Allowed: The law permits ownership of various firearms, including hunting rifles and handguns, but prohibits fully automatic weapons and certain other types of firearms. There are limits on the number of firearms an individual can own, and firearms must be stored securely.  Public Opinion and Recent Developments Public opinion in Greece generally favors strict gun control measures, with many citizens supporting regulations to prevent gun-related violence. Recent incidents involving firearms have prompted discussions about potential changes to the licensing framework, including stricter requirements and enhanced background checks.  Statistics on Gun Ownership Estimates suggest that there are approximately 1.2 million legal firearms in Greece, alongside an estimated 800,000 illegal firearms. This indicates that about 20% of the population may own firearms, which is relatively low compared to other countries.  In summary, while gun ownership is permitted in Greece, it is subject to stringent regulations and licensing requirements aimed at ensuring public safety. The ongoing discussions about gun laws reflect a cautious approach to firearm regulation in the country.

Genuine question here. What do you think should be done about gun violence? I, too, believe there is an issue, but don't exactly have a good solution. I'm all fine with background checks, FOID cards(firearm owners identification) and waiting periods. IL has all of those already and has for as long as I can remember.  What are you and everybody else's' solutions? I'm open to opinions. 

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