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    BMW's M Division To Stick With Six-Cylinders and Rear-Wheel Drive For As Long As Its Feasible


    • Six-Cylinders and Rear-Wheel Drive is still the order of the day for BMW's M Division

    A lot of the high-performance sub-brands have been thinking about the future and the possibility of using turbocharged four-cylinders or all-wheel drive. BMW's M division isn't going down that trail of thought yet.

     

    Speaking with Australian outlet Motoring, BMW M's head of product management, Carsten Pries says for the time being, the division will focus on developing models with the six cylinders and rear-wheel drive.

     

    “If you also look at the M performance models we have added over the last three or four years they have rear-wheel drive as the standard setting and also have six cylinder engines. These are cars that attract new people to the M brand [and its core models] and that is very important,” said Pries.

     

    “This combination of six cylinder engines and rear-wheel drive is not just a USP in marketing terms but it is something that really attracts people to our brand. This is obviously not something you can just talk about but also something you can experience and enjoy."

     

    It should be noted that M does have two models with all-wheel drive, the X5 and X6 M models. We assume Pries is referring to M's sedans and coupes with these comments.

     

    Pries does admit that the current strategy could change in the near future.

     

    “If the framework changes in the future, we have to look then at what we can do in terms of a [providing] a proper or decent M offer,” said Pries.

     

    Source: Motoring

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    So in other words, they will milk old tech and dated styling as long as badge snobs are willing to let them be parted with their money.

     

    Cannot blame them for taking the easy way out.

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    This is the same problem that all luxury car makers have.  Cadillac is painting itself into a corner with the Escalade.  These cars make a lot of money but the regulatory demands for different engines and MPG standards are coming very soon.  What is the point of investing in R&D for new models until it is absolutely necessary?  The business case needs to be there and not just the government staring you down to make something new.

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    This is the same problem that all luxury car makers have.  Cadillac is painting itself into a corner with the Escalade.  These cars make a lot of money but the regulatory demands for different engines and MPG standards are coming very soon.  What is the point of investing in R&D for new models until it is absolutely necessary?  The business case needs to be there and not just the government staring you down to make something new.

     

    I would disagree with you about the Escalade being painted into a corner. 

     

    You can easily as proven by theTT V6 replace the V8 in the escalade with the TTV6. You can also due to the room under the body between the frame put in a pure electric power train and battery packs or go the VOLT way with a Hybrid powertrain. 

     

    The Escalade is an awesome superior SUV to any of the other makes out there and you can easily change the powertrain.

     

    I would have expected BMW to do this but they seem to not want to unless this is about just the I6 engine. On hind site I guess we could take this as they will continue to improve the engine but use it till they are forced to drop it or finally add alternative fuel power trains.

     

    The style of the Escalade has continued to improve with each version where the BMW has stayed stagnant for the last 20+ years on style.

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    As much as I like the Escalade, it is still a Chevrolet Tahoe.  As some point Cadillac will have to make a decision to make the Escalade completely and totally different from GMC/Chevy.  If they can make the TTV6/Hybrid a reality and build it separately from the GMC/Chevy platform, then great.  Make it so.  Otherwise, Cadillac will continue to be tied to GM as a whole with the admin structure and production lines.   

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    BMW M division should focus more on V8 and V12 power.  The straight six is a great engine, and a very smooth and balanced engine, but it still a six cylinder.  That is great for standard BMWs, but in an M car there should be more.

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    BMW M division should focus more on V8 and V12 power.  The straight six is a great engine, and a very smooth and balanced engine, but it still a six cylinder.  That is great for standard BMWs, but in an M car there should be more.

    It will be interesting to see how long they live considering that Europe after this diesel scandal is now considering raising the emissions hurdle. I could not find anything other than stories about discussions. Yet if they get their way, the life of the V8 and V12 could be shorter than it has been in the past.

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    BMW M division should focus more on V8 and V12 power.  The straight six is a great engine, and a very smooth and balanced engine, but it still a six cylinder.  That is great for standard BMWs, but in an M car there should be more.

    It will be interesting to see how long they live considering that Europe after this diesel scandal is now considering raising the emissions hurdle. I could not find anything other than stories about discussions. Yet if they get their way, the life of the V8 and V12 could be shorter than it has been in the past.

     

    I will agree to the sentiment that V8s and certainly V12s have a limited life span going forward...but I did not want to discuss that. I wanna discuss BMW's I6. 

     

    SMK...not only are V8s and V12s gonna be limited...

    BMWs...especially the 3 Series...and now the 2 Series and 4 Series...and the 5 Series...including the "M" versions of these...are known for the inline 6....

     

    Why?

     

    You said it yourself SMK...BMW's I6...I6s in general, are smooth and well balanced.

    BMWs...whether regular or "M" version, are known to be very well balanced sportds sedans. Enough power, not over-whelming, mixed with just the right amount slalom handling and steering. The perfect balance. Engine, suspension and steering. Smooth and not over-powerful. Like an American muscle car or M-B AMG trim.

     

    The E39 M5 did indeed have a V8...but it was far from being a torque monster muscle car.  It was smooth and well balanced. 

    Have you noticed that every M5 since has not exactly been a purists favorite?

     

    The way you have philosophized this is BMW should "AMG", "SRT8",  or "SS"  itself with V8s in their "M" cars...but if they do that, then BMW truly has lost the war with its competition as THAT is NOT what BMW is all about.

    BMW, especially now that V8s are gonna be in limited use, should just continue in being what BMW always was...inline 6s and all...

     

    BMW kept up with the horsepower wars introducing  twin turbos to their I6s without going to a V8...

    If anything, BMW has lost its way when they have introduced V8s, V10s and SAVs in their line-up.

     

    I feel that when BMW engineers introduced twin turbos to their I6s, the little light bulb went on again and they realized the wrong path they took when they decided to chase M-B in the horsepower, cylinder count war.

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    I6s are so good that even Mercedes is getting in on that action.

     

    I actually am a V10 person. I think the Lexus LFA engine is best sounding engine ever... They only way someone could replicate that same sound is probably by recording it and them piping it in through speakers...mounted right at the firewall with a sountube...and all of that kit better be made by Harman...

     

    However, I think the 5.2 Voodoo is the most appropriate soundtrack for a musclecar/trackrat.

     

    I think the inline 6 and the flat six are pretty cool.

     

    But automakers are examining the idea of opposed piston engines in cars. Check it out. It could be the next revolution in internal combustion because the main benefit is that you don't need cylinder heads - the pistons fire against each other. fewer parts, better thermal efficiency...

     

     

     

     

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    The I6 engine is fantastic but a 335 or 535, or 340/740, etc has a straight six. If I were going to spend $90k on an M5 or $150k on an M7 or M760 as it were, I would want V8 and V12 power. Or if they do an M8, it better be a V12 coupe.

    The M5 is like 4,400 lbs, I wouldn't want a six cylinder in that. The exception would be if the M cars got lighter than the base model. If an M5 had a carbon fiber body so that it weighed as much as a 528i, then a 450 HP straight six might work. But I don't see them making an M5 that weighs what the E39 weighed.

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    The I6 engine is fantastic but a 335 or 535, or 340/740, etc has a straight six. If I were going to spend $90k on an M5 or $150k on an M7 or M760 as it were, I would want V8 and V12 power. Or if they do an M8, it better be a V12 coupe.

    The M5 is like 4,400 lbs, I wouldn't want a six cylinder in that. The exception would be if the M cars got lighter than the base model. If an M5 had a carbon fiber body so that it weighed as much as a 528i, then a 450 HP straight six might work. But I don't see them making an M5 that weighs what the E39 weighed.

     

    I'm pretty sure the entire I6 discussion is about the M3/4 and how that's what they're going to keep in the M3/4. 

     

    the M brand should just care about the best performance. If they can get it from partial electrification, then by all means. I think they're strongly considering a TTI6 with electric motors to power the front wheels for their M5. I would. If it can even maintain the same level of performance, but seriously cut the fuel consumption, it would help BMW both with their "Ultimate" brand - which really means they are not stuck into any drive-train configuration, but rather pick the best they have techwise they have as of this day.

     

    Would you really care what the number of cylinders is? Like really?

     

    Car enthusiasts all over will eventually or already do pop their hoods to reveal a storage cubby because there's no engine and you can put any exhaust note like switching a ringtone on a phone. Yeah. It'll happen - heck it already does happen.

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    The I6 engine is fantastic but a 335 or 535, or 340/740, etc has a straight six. If I were going to spend $90k on an M5 or $150k on an M7 or M760 as it were, I would want V8 and V12 power. Or if they do an M8, it better be a V12 coupe.

    The M5 is like 4,400 lbs, I wouldn't want a six cylinder in that. The exception would be if the M cars got lighter than the base model. If an M5 had a carbon fiber body so that it weighed as much as a 528i, then a 450 HP straight six might work. But I don't see them making an M5 that weighs what the E39 weighed.

    Therein lies the problem with the M5, SMK...

    4400lbs...

     

     

    The exception would be if the M cars got lighter than the base model. If an M5 had a carbon fiber body so that it weighed as much as a 528i, then a 450 HP straight six might work.

     

    which you yourself, found a more viable solution for BMW rather than just dump a V8 under the hood like you originally suggested...

     

    But I don't see them making an M5 that weighs what the E39 weighed.

     

     

    Safety features and sensors aside, which is also mandated by governments...BMW also thinks that dumb technology is what makes BMW...like that stupid hand gesture recognition shyte they introduced in the 7 Series...which adds unnecessary weight to their cars...

     

    Hand gesture recognition shyte:

     

    in the air, make a gesture that resembles lowering the volume on the radio or temperature and the computer sensors will recognize it and do it for you!

     

     

    HOW STUPID IS THAT???!!!

    JUST PHYSICALLY DO IT YOURSELF!!!!

    YOU ARE ALREADY DOING THE DAMNED GESTURE BURNING THE DAMNED CALORIES ANYWAY!!!

    WHY THE NEED FOR THE COMPUTER GESTURING RECOGNITION SENSORS THEN???!!!

    JUST BRING BACK THE PHYSICAL BUTTONS...ITS EASIER TO ADJUST SHYTE THIS WAY, SAFER AND FASTER AND FORGET ABOUT THE IPHONE CRAP!!!

     

    Yes, I did say safer...

    Because as we all know, computers sometimes dont always recognize the inputs we input in them, an we rinse repeat all the time...FRUSTRATING the SHYTE out of us...and while we drive and this shyte happens, we not only get mad unnecessarily at the computer, then we put all our attention to it rather than focus are attention on the road...just to change a setting...

    With physical buttons, especially when its our car that has been in our possession for months and years, its a 2 second affair over and done with...if that. 

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    When you look at the M cars, most of them are in the 2, 3, 4 series line.  I still don't see them putting a straight six in an M5 or M^, still need a V8 there.  But when you compare the M line to AMG, you realize how many fewer M cars there are, and how many fewer at the high end.  They don't have any full size M products, or pure sports car or SL roadster competitor. 

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    When you look at the M cars, most of them are in the 2, 3, 4 series line.  I still don't see them putting a straight six in an M5 or M^, still need a V8 there.  But when you compare the M line to AMG, you realize how many fewer M cars there are, and how many fewer at the high end.  They don't have any full size M products, or pure sports car or SL roadster competitor. 

    You may have a point here...

    But I cant give you a decent rebuttal as my brain tonight aint working properly on a product planning level...

     

    Part of me wants to say that BMW SHOULD NOT be chasing Mercedes-Benz in all AMG trims in all kinds of niches...the "M" badge should not be diluted with non-sense...that would  include the X6 and the M7...

     

    Yet...they do need the volume...they do need to move metal some how.

     

    Which makes me think of another thing...but my mind is all over the place tonight with product planning that I may not be thinking this out logically...here goes:

     

    Is it possible that the AMG line has become more in tune with what M-B wants it to be than BMW with the "M" line and because M-B is more focused with what the AMG line is and BMW has muddled its "M" line that the new benchmark is the AMG line?

     

    I mean...AMG driving dynamics remains constant in whatever model range its present but the "M" badge totally differs between its model range...

     

    I see confusion in BMW product planning as where I see laser focus with M-B.

    Aside from the fact that BMW, M-B and Audi want to infiltrate all possible niches, real or imagined...M-B's focus on every niche they are in...is very dialed in...

    Exemptions are the Smart division and the B Series...

    Even the Sprinter is honed in and where it has become, in my eyes, the best Euro van on the market.

     

    Yet...they need to offer a M7 as Cadillac will be offering a 4.2 liter V8 in the CT6...

    They need the X6M...as M-B's SUVs are kicking ass...and Cadillac will soon be working on its own V Series CUV....

     

    Sure BMW will offer a fullsized SUV...but Cadillac mentioned that the Escalade will grow in luxury and sophistication..

    Which makes BMW's life miserable as the M2 and M4 are totally different "M" animals than the X6M, X5M and M7.

    Even the M5 and M6 dont even know what direction they need to go...

    Do they go the AMG and V Series way? Or do they stick to their tried and true formula...

     

    Which leads us back to what you were saying before...about V8s and V12s.

     

    In which I agreed that the M5 needs to lose weight in order to dance better rather than just to push its way around the track...like a German muscle car...because BMW aint at all like a Muscle Car...but M-B and AMG sure are!

     

    Did I confuse you?

    Because Im sure as hell confused!

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    Mercedes just has more top end cars than BMW.  We can speculate on what BMW might build, but when you look at the current line ups, they have nothing to compete with the GLS, G-wagen, AMG GT, or SL.  And the 7-series is getting pummeled by the S-class, even with the new M760i V12 is it outgunned by the S65, and the S65 is supposed to get a power bump when they get all wheel drive on it and I assume reinforce the transmission.

     

    And you have to consider that Mercedes made the SLR and SLS in the past, no reason that they wouldn't go back into the $200k super car market again,  BMW has never been up there.  Mercedes could build a Ferrari La Ferrari competitor, they have the ability as their Formula 1 car is better than Ferrari's, but they have said they will not do a hyper car because it would be a money loser.

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    As long as they are profitable as an over all company they will spend on stupid niche products that I bet if you really broke it down are NOT profitable and should be killed off.

     

    I bet MB and BMW will end up having to clean up their portfolio in the next 5 years and kill off many niche products that are just not supportable as they really never had a true business case but more of a we have extra money so lets tweak this car crazy and see who buys attitude.

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    As long as they are profitable as an over all company they will spend on stupid niche products that I bet if you really broke it down are NOT profitable and should be killed off.

     

    I bet MB and BMW will end up having to clean up their portfolio in the next 5 years and kill off many niche products that are just not supportable as they really never had a true business case but more of a we have extra money so lets tweak this car crazy and see who buys attitude.

    BMW has a lot of variants, if anything gets killed I could see it being the 4 and 6 series sedans, and just leaving those as 2 doors.  Crossovers do so well, I bet they keep the X4 and X6.  The BMW Z4 is probably the one in jeopardy since convertibles don't sell well.  But they have nothing else like it, so I could see them keeping it.

     

    The electric cars from both brands are niche, but the law says they have to build an electric car, so those won't go away.

     

    Mercedes niche product is the CLS, but seeing as how everyone copies it, and it is basically an E-class plus $10,000, that is a keeper.   Same goes for the GLE coupe, the interior is identical to the GLE, but it costs $10,000 more because the back window is sloped.   The G-wagen is a niche car that they were going ti kill in 2005 but the fans want it, so they kept it.  And the SL is low volume, but they won't ever kill the SL.

     

    I could see the GLC coupe being a weak seller and them dumping that.  But I think they will continue with sedan, coupe, convertible of the C, E , S classes.

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      FWD: 33 City/35 Highway/34 Combined AWD: 31 City/34 Highway/33 Combined The Rogue also features a 2.5L four-cylinder with 170 horsepower and 175 pound-feet of torque. No matter which powertrain you pick, Nissan's xTronic CVT comes standard.
      On the safety front, the Rogue adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring, forward emergency braking with pedestrian detection, lane departure warning, lane departure prevention, and rear cross traffic alert.
      Nissan hasn't announced pricing for the 2017 Rogue, but it will arrive at dealers later this year.
      Source: Nissan
      Press Release is on Page 2


      New 2017 Nissan Rogue offers advanced safety and security, connectivity, infotainment and driving aid technologies
      New Safety Shield technologies include Intelligent Cruise Control and Forward Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Detection Connectivity and infotainment features range from NissanConnectSM with Navigation, Mobile Apps and Services to Bose® audio system with nine speakers and Siri® Eyes Free Driving aids include High Beam Assist headlights, Blind Spot Warning, Lane Departure Prevention and Lane Departure Warning, and Around View® Monitor with Moving Object Detection As part of a major revision for the 2017 model year, the popular Nissan Rogue crossover now includes the widest range of available advanced technology features ever. For example, adding to the list of previously available Nissan Safety Shield technologies such as radar-based Blind Spot Warning (BSW) and Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA) (both now standard on Rogue SV grade in addition to Rogue SL), the 2017 Rogue is also available with Lane Departure Warning (LDW) and Lane Departure Prevention (LDP).
      Two additional Safety Shield technologies that are newly available for 2017 are Intelligent Cruise Control (ICC)1 and Forward Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Detection2. Intelligent Cruise Control uses radar to maintain a set distance between the Rogue and the vehicle ahead, even braking to help maintain that distance.
      Forward Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Detection provides audio and visual display warnings to help alert the driver of a potential frontal collision and help reduce speed if necessary. If a collision is unavoidable, the feature can engage the brakes to help reduce both the speed of the impact and the severity of the collision. The system is also designed to help avoid or mitigate frontal collisions with pedestrians, using a camera-based system to recognize human shapes.
      Both Intelligent Cruise Control and Forward Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Detection are optional for Rogue SL as part of the new Platinum Package – along with Lane Departure Warning, Lane Departure Prevention and new 19-inch aluminum-alloy wheels.
      Rogue connected technology and smartphone integration features include available NissanConnectSM with Navigation and Mobile Apps. The system, which is standard on Rogue SL and optional on Rogue SV, offers a 7.0-inch color touch-screen display, Nissan Voice Recognition for navigation and audio, SiriusXM® Traffic and SiriusXM® Travel Link™ – which provides 24/7 access to sports scores, movie listings, stock prices, gas prices, weather and other information (SiriusXM® subscription required, sold separately).
      NissanConnect Services powered by SiriusXM® (SiriusXM® subscription required, sold separately), which comes standard on Rogue SL model, offers available services including Automatic Collision Notification, Emergency Call and Stolen Vehicle Locator, Maintenance Alerts and Vehicle Health Report. Remote Access is another key feature, with help accessible through a compatible computer or smartphone. Services include Remote Door Lock and Unlock3, and Remote Horn and Flashing Lights to help find the Rogue in a garage or parking lot.
      NissanConnect Services also provides enhanced Internet Navigation searches. Navigation search options include Assisted Search (live agent), Connected Search, Destination Download, Journey Planner, Send-to-Car, and navigation search (points of interest).
      The system also offers customizable alerts via email, text message or automated phone call. Alerts include Vehicle Speed, Curfew Alert (with available notification to the driver 20 minutes before the Curfew Alert), Valet Alerts (more than two miles from drop-off) and geographical boundaries setting.
      Also available is Siri® Eyes Free4, which makes it easy to make and receive calls, hear and send text messages and emails, select and play music from a compatible device, get notifications, request directions and more.
      In addition, Rogue offers available Around View® Monitor (AVM) with Moving Object Detection (MOD)5, which utilizes four small wide-angle cameras mounted on the front, sides and rear of the vehicle to provide a “bird's eye” virtual 360° view of objects around the vehicle. It provides additional selectable split-screen close-ups of the front, rear and curb views, helping the driver maneuver the car in or out of tight spots.
      Moving Object Detection builds on the capabilities of the AVM system, helping enhance the driver's situational awareness by providing visual and audible warnings if the system detects large moving objects around the vehicle in situations such as when pulling out of a parking space.
      Available audio systems start with the standard 4-speaker AM/FM/CD audio system with 5.0-inch color audio display, auxiliary audio input jack, USB connection port for iPod® interface and other compatible devices, Streaming Audio via Bluetooth®, SiriusXM® Satellite Radio (SiriusXM® subscription required, sold separately) and Hands-free Text Messaging Assistant (compatible smartphone required). Rogue SV grade adds two additional speakers, bringing the total to six. Rogue SL grade includes a Bose® audio system with nine speakers and 7.0-inch audio display. The Bose® system is available on SV models as part of the new Sun and Sound Touring Package.
      In addition, standard on all Rogue grade levels is the Advanced Drive-Assist™ Display (ADAD), located in the center of the instrument display between the tachometer and speedometer, which features infotainment and driver assistance displays.
      Finally, High Beam Assist headlights, which are standard on Rogue SL, automatically change between high and low beam settings and back again as needed, such as when headlights or taillights from other vehicles are detected.
      Nissan offers Rogue drivers more choice – new Rogue Hybrid model launched for 2017
      The Nissan Rogue Hybrid, the newest addition to the popular Rogue crossover lineup, offers a second powertrain choice for Rogue buyers for the 2017 model year – in both FWD and AWD applications. Like the 2.5-liter inline 4-cylinder gasoline engine-equipped standard Rogue models, the Rogue Hybrid offers freshened exterior and interior styling, additional safety, security and driving aid technology and a wide range of standard and available comfort, convenience and utility features.
      The new, compact hybrid powertrain is designed to balance performance with significant increases in fuel efficiency. It takes full advantage of an electric motor's instant torque for exceptional acceleration and, in combination with the 2.0-liter engine and advanced Xtronic transmission, provides an energetic feel under all driving conditions.
      The 2017 Rogue Hybrid produces projected fuel economy1 of 33 mpg city, 35 mpg highway and 34 mpg combined (estimated) for the front-wheel drive model. Rogue Hybrid all-wheel drive models are projected at 31 mpg city, 34 mpg highway and 33 mpg combined (estimated)1. Most significantly, it does so with virtually no compromise of performance, interior roominess or cargo space (compared to standard Rogue models).
      The hybrid system combines an advanced 2.0-liter 16-valve DOHC aluminum-alloy inline 4-cylinder engine and a compact lithium-ion battery with an innovative one-motor, two-clutch control. The system's gasoline engine is rated at 141 horsepower and 144 lb-ft of torque, while the advanced 30 kW electric motor is rated at 40 horsepower and 118 lb-ft of torque. The hybrid system net power is 176 horsepower.
      At the core of the Rogue Hybrid gasoline-electric hybrid system is Nissan's advanced Intelligent Dual Clutch Control system. The first of the two clutches is a dry clutch installed between the 4-cylinder engine and the electric motor, where the torque converter would normally be, and the second is between the motor and Xtronic transmission.
      The high-output lithium-ion battery is able to charge/discharge quickly, which contributes to high-speed, precise control of the electric motor and optimum clutch control, and in combination enable smooth start and quick shift changes. An Intelligent Regenerative Braking system partially recharges the battery during vehicle braking and additional fuel economy is provided by an Idle Start/Stop system.
      In addition, with use of the compact Lithium-ion battery located under the rear cargo area, the Rogue Hybrid maintains its flat rear floor for easy passenger access to the rear seat and little reduction of cargo room.
        2017 Rogue Hybrid 2017 Rogue Powertrain 2.0-liter 16-valve DOHC aluminum-alloy inline 4-cylinder, 30 kW electric motor, Nissan Intelligent Dual Clutch Control 2.5-liter DOHC 16-valve inline 4-cylinder Horsepower (hp) 176 (net) 170 @ 6,000 rpm Torque (lb-ft) - 175 @ 4,400 rpm Transmission Xtronic transmission with manual gear shifts and standard Sport and Eco Mode switches Xtronic transmission with manual gear shifts and standard Sport and Eco Mode switches Projected Fuel Economy (estimated)1 – FWD 33 mpg city
      35 mpg highway
      34 mpg combined 26 mpg city
      33 mpg highway
      29 mpg combined Projected Fuel Economy (estimated)1 – FWD 31 mpg city
      34 mpg highway
      33 mpg combined 25 mpg city
      32 mpg highway
      28 mpg combined Cargo Volume (cu. ft.): 
      Behind 1st row
      Behind 2nd row
      61.4
      27.3
      61.6
      28.4  
    • By William Maley
      BMW Group U.S. Reports August 2016 Sales
      BMW brand sales decrease 8.0 percent MINI brand sales decrease 2.7 percent Woodcliff Lake, NJ – September 1, 2016… Sales of BMW brand vehicles decreased 8.0 percent in August for a total of 25,531 compared to 27,755 vehicles sold in August, 2015.  Year-to-date, the BMW brand is down 8.3 percent in the U.S. on sales of 204,744 vehicles compared to 223,348 sold in the first eight months of 2015.
       
      Notable vehicle sales in August include the BMW 7 Series which increased to 1,230 cars, the BMW X3 which increased to 4,668 vehicles, and the BMW X5 which increased to 4,121 vehicles.
       
      “The clear trend toward Sports Activity Vehicles took a good-sized leap forward in August, as our U.S. plant again increased production and availability of the always popular BMW X3 and X5 pushing total X model sales to 44% of BMW retail in the U.S. in August,” said Ludwig Willisch, President and CEO, BMW of North America. “With the production increase, I fully expect the key SAV numbers to remain strong in the U.S. through the end of the year.”
       
      BMW Group Sales
      In total, the BMW Group in the U.S. (BMW and MINI combined) reported August sales of 30,500 vehicles, a decrease of 7.2 percent from the 32,864 vehicles sold in the same month a year ago.  Year-to-date, BMW Group sales are down 9.2 percent on sales of 239,631 vehicles in the first eight months of 2016 compared to 263,908 in the same period in 2015. 
       
      MINI Brand Sales
      For August, MINI USA reported 4,969 automobiles sold, a decrease of 2.7 percent from the 5,109 sold in the same month a year ago.  Year-to-date, MINI USA reported a total of 34,887 automobiles sold, a decrease of 14.0 percent from 40,560 automobiles sold in the first eight months of 2015.

    • By William Maley
      Kia had an interesting powertrain concept on the floor of the 2014 Paris Motor Show. Revealed in the Optima T-Hybrid, the powertrain paired a 1.7L turbodiesel four-cylinder with a 48v electric supercharger. This worked in conjunction with a 48V starter/generator that turned it into a mild hybrid. Kia said this powertrain would cut emissions and fuel consumption for any vehicle by 15 to 20 percent. Since showing this powertrain, Kia has been hard at work on this project
      But then the Volkswagen diesel emission scandal hit and it has caused many automakers, Kia included, to rethink projects involving diesel engines. Speaking with Autocar, Hyundai-Kia's performance development boss Albert Biermann said it's becoming harder to justifying the costs to develop next-generation diesel engines in light of the Volkswagen mess and stricter emission standards.
      “The research project is still going on, but the cost of electric motors and batteries in a hybrid is already significant. The question is whether it is really necessary to throw in a more expensive diesel engine.”
      If Kia decides to scrap the diesel part of this powertrain, their efforts will not go to waste. Biermann said this system could be re-engineered for a gas engine.
      Source: Autocar

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    • By William Maley
      Kia had an interesting powertrain concept on the floor of the 2014 Paris Motor Show. Revealed in the Optima T-Hybrid, the powertrain paired a 1.7L turbodiesel four-cylinder with a 48v electric supercharger. This worked in conjunction with a 48V starter/generator that turned it into a mild hybrid. Kia said this powertrain would cut emissions and fuel consumption for any vehicle by 15 to 20 percent. Since showing this powertrain, Kia has been hard at work on this project
      But then the Volkswagen diesel emission scandal hit and it has caused many automakers, Kia included, to rethink projects involving diesel engines. Speaking with Autocar, Hyundai-Kia's performance development boss Albert Biermann said it's becoming harder to justifying the costs to develop next-generation diesel engines in light of the Volkswagen mess and stricter emission standards.
      “The research project is still going on, but the cost of electric motors and batteries in a hybrid is already significant. The question is whether it is really necessary to throw in a more expensive diesel engine.”
      If Kia decides to scrap the diesel part of this powertrain, their efforts will not go to waste. Biermann said this system could be re-engineered for a gas engine.
      Source: Autocar
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