Genesis Reveals Gran Coupe and Gran Convertible Concepts at the 2025 Seoul Mobility Show

These are SEXY cars that I could see myself driving. Being based on the G90 autos, that brings large interior spaces for large people. Should be exciting to see if they go from concept to production.

Genesis wants soooo bad to be seen as European....

but yes, these are incredibly sexy.

Those are sweet...and colorful.  Love the interiors... 

8 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Those are sweet...and colorful.  Love the interiors... 

I love that two-tone green interior. That is hot compared to all the Blah Black interiors America and Europe has put in auto's. Love both exterior colors, I hope they go into production as I think these would sell well here in the U.S.

2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Genesis wants soooo bad to be seen as European....

 

but yes, these are incredibly sexy.

I can see them doing it as that front end is so well balanced compared to what BMW and Mercedes has put out that is not hitting it with the masses. The athletic stance with graceful luxury makes me see a balance that we have not had in many luxury cars, though I will also say that Cadillac V edition has this balance too imho.

Hot Daaaamn! These look beautiful.

We can only hope they actually build these. We all know the take rate would be insanely low, but I feel like it would be great for the brand's image and hopefully sell other models. 

11 hours ago, G. David Felt said:

I can see them doing it as that front end is so well balanced compared to what BMW and Mercedes has put out that is not hitting it with the masses. The athletic stance with graceful luxury makes me see a balance that we have not had in many luxury cars, though I will also say that Cadillac V edition has this balance too imho.

The M8 is a pretty dang good looking car, too, though. 

Cadillac doesn't have a full size coupe like this Genesis or the M8. They don't even make the CT4-V Blackwing Coupe. 

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

The M8 is a pretty dang good looking car, too, though. 

Cadillac doesn't have a full size coupe like this Genesis or the M8. They don't even make the CT4-V Blackwing Coupe. 

I will agree that is a good-looking car, but I never see them around the PNW and as such only the HUGE Kidney bean grilled cars and SUVs

7 minutes ago, G. David Felt said:

I will agree that is a good-looking car, but I never see them around the PNW and as such only the HUGE Kidney bean grilled cars and SUVs

There's actually an M8 coupe and M8 Gran Coupe in our parking garage at work. The coupe looks much better, imo. 

The M8 coupe looks so much like a Mustang in profile...  I like the previous M6 Gran Coupe from about 10 years ago..

It's too bad Cadillac doesn't have a coupe and 4 seat convertible...something small based off the CT4 and/or a midsize CT5 based one would be great.    I wish GM had built a production version of the gorgeous El Miraj concept.

Edited April 4, 20251 yr by Robert Hall

Here's the problem, the G90 doesn't sell, and coupes and convertibles don't sell, combing both would be a disaster.   If they did a mid-size car maybe they would have a chance, but maybe they feel like the 4-series and CLE already kind of took that space away.

And Cadillac for sure needs to do a coupe version of whatever replaces the CT5.  I think if you took a Lyriq drivetrain and throw a coupe body on that for $70-80k range they have a winner.

2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Here's the problem, the G90 doesn't sell, and coupes and convertibles don't sell, combing both would be a disaster.   If they did a mid-size car maybe they would have a chance, but maybe they feel like the 4-series and CLE already kind of took that space away.

And Cadillac for sure needs to do a coupe version of whatever replaces the CT5.  I think if you took a Lyriq drivetrain and throw a coupe body on that for $70-80k range they have a winner.

Yes Genesis is not as high as they were in 2017 for the G90, but they have been slowly climbing the last 3 years, so we will see how it goes. I think breaking it out as a stand alone luxury division is a smart move.

https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/genesis/g90

Yet if you look at U.S. total sales of all models, Genesis has continued to increase in sales each year.

Genesis | US Market Brands | CarFigures

It is not a sprint, but a marathon of luxury quality autos.

23 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Here's the problem, the G90 doesn't sell, and coupes and convertibles don't sell, combing both would be a disaster.   If they did a mid-size car maybe they would have a chance, but maybe they feel like the 4-series and CLE already kind of took that space away.

And Cadillac for sure needs to do a coupe version of whatever replaces the CT5.  I think if you took a Lyriq drivetrain and throw a coupe body on that for $70-80k range they have a winner.

You’re thinking in purely North American terms. China and Middle East still have decent sedan sales. It costs Genesis next to nothing to put a couple of these on a boat to the US with some GV80s. The boat is already headed that direction anyway. 
 

As for coupes and convertibles, these are just concepts for now, but as platform flexibility increases with the move to EV, I think we will see he return of lower volume body styles like these.

19 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

You’re thinking in purely North American terms. China and Middle East still have decent sedan sales. It costs Genesis next to nothing to put a couple of these on a boat to the US with some GV80s. The boat is already headed that direction anyway. 
 

As for coupes and convertibles, these are just concepts for now, but as platform flexibility increases with the move to EV, I think we will see he return of lower volume body styles like these.

Well 25% tariff added to it, which makes a G90 like $125,000, and probably dead in the water in the US.  The Chinese have luxury cars with over 1,000 hp for less than the price of a G90.  I don't know that they are really going to compete there either.  Unless they come up with some  next gen EV tech and have full self driving and impeccable build quality or something.

33 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Well 25% tariff added to it, which makes a G90 like $125,000, and probably dead in the water in the US.  The Chinese have luxury cars with over 1,000 hp for less than the price of a G90.  I don't know that they are really going to compete there either.  Unless they come up with some  next gen EV tech and have full self driving and impeccable build quality or something.

No one cares about that amount of horsepower in this class. These are chauffeur driven vehicles. Up until electrics came around, most were trundling around with 2.0T 4-cylinders or diesels.  While Genesis is still relatively new to us in the the U.S., they've made such strides on interior quality that I'd put them up against MB dollar for dollar.

The nicest of the Chinese EVs sedans, the NIO ET7 is a pretty good looking car though I kinda think it looks like a Model-3 had it's way with a Buick Envista. It would do really well in the US up against the Teslas, but it is still not playing in the luxury ballpark with Genesis (or Benz or Audi) when it comes to design and materials.  Low end EQE Sedan rival? Sure. G90 rival? No.

The BYD Han interior does look really good.  Shame the outside looks like a 2-generations-ago Civic.

On 4/6/2025 at 7:40 PM, Drew Dowdell said:

The BYD Han interior does look really good.  Shame the outside looks like a 2-generations-ago Civic.

But this is like a Camry price point car.

On 4/7/2025 at 9:26 PM, smk4565 said:

But this is like a Camry price point car.

Which someone shopping at a G90 price point would never look at.