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    Infiniti Looks To Hybrids for High-Performance Vehicles


    • If and when Infiniti decides to do a high-performance vehicle, there could be a hybrid powertrain underneath

    Infiniti and high-performance vehicles just never seem to happen. We hear about plans and see concepts that preview an upcoming model. Then, the plans fall through. The latest victim was the Q50 Eau Rouge concept that was officially canceled last year.

     

    Still, Infiniti isn't giving up the dream. Infiniti's European boss François Goupil de Bouille tells Autocar that the brand knows it needs a halo vehicle (such as performance model) and hinted that hybrid power could be used for it.

     

    “Having halo cars is important, but historically brands develop their base and then add in these higher-end models. One day the question will come for Infiniti, but at the moment our focus is on building the core," Goupil de Bouille said. (In terms of Europe, not North America. -WM)

     

    “But if you look at what we are doing in F1 then you can see some possibilities. We worked closely with Red Bull, but now with Renault we are more integrated than ever and have taken charge of the hybrid modules on the F1 car. That gives an idea of the direction in which we are going in terms of performance and, while no decisions have been taken for road cars, when we are ready to discuss it, there is one opportunity there.”

     

    But like previous times with any talk of an Infiniti performance vehicle, we'll believe when we see it.

     

    Source: Autocar

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    People complain about cadillac not moving fast enough. Infiniti is even slower and truly will be far into the future.

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    People complain about cadillac not moving fast enough. Infiniti is even slower and truly will be far into the future.

    You mean like into infinity?

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    I give them credit for putting a 400 hp V6 into the Q50 for $49k, that is good performance per dollar.  But their V8 is dated, that 420 hp was good back in 2010, but all the V8s have turbos on them now, make huge torque, and get better milage than that 5.6 liter engine Infiniti has.  They never made a performance M56 or Q70 car, never made a true sports car, never made a 500 hp car, etc, etc.  Infiniti tried to build themselves as a performance brand with 328 hp sedans.  There just isn't a lot of wow factor in that.   And the other guys have so many performance models now, Infiniti is just so far behind.

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      26,445
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      CYTD
      CYTD
       
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      2015
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      2016
      2015
      % chg
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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      311
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      626
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      5,682
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      241
      397.9
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      3,995
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      1,086
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      40,350
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      CYTD
      CYTD
       
      2016
      2015
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      2016
      2015
      % chg
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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      133,351
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      423,900
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    • By William Maley
      Kia had an interesting powertrain concept on the floor of the 2014 Paris Motor Show. Revealed in the Optima T-Hybrid, the powertrain paired a 1.7L turbodiesel four-cylinder with a 48v electric supercharger. This worked in conjunction with a 48V starter/generator that turned it into a mild hybrid. Kia said this powertrain would cut emissions and fuel consumption for any vehicle by 15 to 20 percent. Since showing this powertrain, Kia has been hard at work on this project
      But then the Volkswagen diesel emission scandal hit and it has caused many automakers, Kia included, to rethink projects involving diesel engines. Speaking with Autocar, Hyundai-Kia's performance development boss Albert Biermann said it's becoming harder to justifying the costs to develop next-generation diesel engines in light of the Volkswagen mess and stricter emission standards.
      “The research project is still going on, but the cost of electric motors and batteries in a hybrid is already significant. The question is whether it is really necessary to throw in a more expensive diesel engine.”
      If Kia decides to scrap the diesel part of this powertrain, their efforts will not go to waste. Biermann said this system could be re-engineered for a gas engine.
      Source: Autocar

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    • By William Maley
      Kia had an interesting powertrain concept on the floor of the 2014 Paris Motor Show. Revealed in the Optima T-Hybrid, the powertrain paired a 1.7L turbodiesel four-cylinder with a 48v electric supercharger. This worked in conjunction with a 48V starter/generator that turned it into a mild hybrid. Kia said this powertrain would cut emissions and fuel consumption for any vehicle by 15 to 20 percent. Since showing this powertrain, Kia has been hard at work on this project
      But then the Volkswagen diesel emission scandal hit and it has caused many automakers, Kia included, to rethink projects involving diesel engines. Speaking with Autocar, Hyundai-Kia's performance development boss Albert Biermann said it's becoming harder to justifying the costs to develop next-generation diesel engines in light of the Volkswagen mess and stricter emission standards.
      “The research project is still going on, but the cost of electric motors and batteries in a hybrid is already significant. The question is whether it is really necessary to throw in a more expensive diesel engine.”
      If Kia decides to scrap the diesel part of this powertrain, their efforts will not go to waste. Biermann said this system could be re-engineered for a gas engine.
      Source: Autocar
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