All-New 2027 Volkswagen Atlas Debuts in New York

Nice update, wonder how the interface will be as the biggest drawback to VW products have been the glacial slow UI. Then this whole approach of big auto's with tiny turbo motors, not a fan of at all.

I think it has a pretty sharp looking front end now. That seems much improved. The lighting elements could maybe be a little larger. 

The interior looks like a nice place to occupy, but the damn screen that "isn't attached" all the way around drives me a little nuts. I also like how they use the center console area with the storage underneath (I know quite a few companies are utilizing this space now, and I like it). It looks like a good overall family hauler.

HOWEVER, the one glaring issue and the one reason I wouldn't consider it, is the 2.0T engine. So they already had the 2.0T in the Atlas but they're giving it a few extra ponies but it's going to have LESS torque??? I just can't see a world where a vehicle this size should lose torque, unless the new torque curve is drastically different and produces all of its peak from like 1000-2500rpm. It just seems like it'll be a dog to drive around. I realize people don't need or want racecars as daily drivers or family vehicles, but I've already heard from a couple people who compared the current 2.0T to the VR6 and they hated how the 2.0T drove in comparison. Both ended up in a VR6 Atlas. 

The interior is gorgeous

but I think there is a reason the press photos were dark on dark. This isn’t pretty in person. This might be a vehicle where the only correct color selection is black.

Kind of boring design still, which is a VW theme, a lot of forgettable cars.  The 2 liter turbo is probably fine in every day driving, but if this thing were loaded with people or going up hills, then I bet that engine has to work really hard and I don't know if they have gotten better, but long term reliability was never a hallmark of the VW/Audi 2.0 engine.

2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Kind of boring design still, which is a VW theme, a lot of forgettable cars.  The 2 liter turbo is probably fine in every day driving, but if this thing were loaded with people or going up hills, then I bet that engine has to work really hard and I don't know if they have gotten better, but long term reliability was never a hallmark of the VW/Audi 2.0 engine.

Nissan and Volkswagen and even Benz need to get off this 2.0T thing for vehicles that are too large for it. Hyundai/Genesis, Ford, GM, Toyota, all have 2.3T - 2.7T going and that extra bit of displacement seems to make all the difference when moving around a 5 ton barge like these three-row crossovers.  Yes, they still sound like ass, but at least they can move. 

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Nissan and Volkswagen and even Benz need to get off this 2.0T thing for vehicles that are too large for it. Hyundai/Genesis, Ford, GM, Toyota, all have 2.3T - 2.7T going and that extra bit of displacement seems to make all the difference when moving around a 5 ton barge like these three-row crossovers.  Yes, they still sound like ass, but at least they can move. 

I agree that a 2.0 turbo in a GLE is nuts.  Yes it can get a sub 7 second 0-60 time but I am sure it revs like crazy to do it, and the inline 6 gets the same mileage.  

I hit a deer last November which totaled my E550.  I did a 2 year lease on a sales demo C300 because I am waiting for EV's to get better then I am going EV and never going back, especially if the Bozo drives gas to $6 a gallon.  The 2 liter mile hybrid is totally fine for a C-class (or GLC) not fast or exciting but more than adequate to get around.  In a big SUV I think it would be a dog, and VW doesn't have electric assist.  Although not like a Taos is fast either.

And probably why EV's will take over easily when batteries get cheap.  Even weak EV's like the Bolt are much faster than a garden variety 4 cylinder crossover and 1000 times better NVH.

19 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Nissan and Volkswagen and even Benz need to get off this 2.0T thing for vehicles that are too large for it. Hyundai/Genesis, Ford, GM, Toyota, all have 2.3T - 2.7T going and that extra bit of displacement seems to make all the difference when moving around a 5 ton barge like these three-row crossovers.  Yes, they still sound like ass, but at least they can move. 

Yep, this is one of those things where the theoretical and mathematical equations just aren't equaling in the real world. On paper the 2.0T should be just fine and I'm sure the engineers have all ran specific tests and numbers saying this is the perfect configuration for their application(s) however, it just doesn't work out in the real world.

18 hours ago, smk4565 said:

I agree that a 2.0 turbo in a GLE is nuts.  Yes it can get a sub 7 second 0-60 time but I am sure it revs like crazy to do it, and the inline 6 gets the same mileage.  

I hit a deer last November which totaled my E550.  I did a 2 year lease on a sales demo C300 because I am waiting for EV's to get better then I am going EV and never going back, especially if the Bozo drives gas to $6 a gallon.  The 2 liter mile hybrid is totally fine for a C-class (or GLC) not fast or exciting but more than adequate to get around.  In a big SUV I think it would be a dog, and VW doesn't have electric assist.  Although not like a Taos is fast either.

And probably why EV's will take over easily when batteries get cheap.  Even weak EV's like the Bolt are much faster than a garden variety 4 cylinder crossover and 1000 times better NVH.

Sorry to hear about your car @smk4565. I know it was special for you. That really sucks.

3 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Yep, this is one of those things where the theoretical and mathematical equations just aren't equaling in the real world. On paper the 2.0T should be just fine and I'm sure the engineers have all ran specific tests and numbers saying this is the perfect configuration for their application(s) however, it just doesn't work out in the real world.

They are fine on paper as long as you drive like a grandma, or not in NJ.