Jump to content
Create New...
  • William Maley
    William Maley

    Volkswagen Issues A Stop-Sale On TDI Models, CEO Apologizes

      Volkswagen Begins Controlling the Damage Over the EPA Investigation


    In light of the announcement made by the EPA on Friday about certain Volkswagen vehicles equipped with the diesel engine violating emission standards, the German automaker has been at work on damage control. The Detroit News reported on Saturday that the company had pulled all of their ads and videos promoting the diesel engines on their YouTube page and asked dealers to put a stop-sale on Beetle, Jetta, and Passat models equipped with TDI engines. No word on how many vehicles are affected by this.

     

    Yesterday, Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn issued a statement apologizing for violating emission standards in the U.S. and said the company would launch an internal investigation.

     

    The Board of Management at Volkswagen AG takes these findings very seriously. I personally am deeply sorry that we have broken the trust of our customers and the public. We will cooperate fully with the responsible agencies, with transparency and urgency, to
    clearly, openly, and completely establish all of the facts of this case. Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter," said Winterkorn.

     

    Source: The Detroit News, USA Today, Volkswagen

     

    Press Release is on Page 2


     

    STATEMENT OF PROF. DR. MARTIN WINTERKORN, CEO OF VOLKSWAGEN AG

     

    Wolfsburg, September 20, 2015 – The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board (EPA and CARB) revealed their findings that while testing diesel cars of the Volkswagen Group they have detected manipulations thatviolate American environmental standards.
    The Board of Management at Volkswagen AG takes these findings very seriously. I personally am deeply sorry that we have broken the trust of our customers and the public. We will cooperate fully with the responsible agencies, with transparency and urgency, to
    clearly, openly, and completely establish all of the facts of this case. Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter.

     

    We do not and will not tolerate violations of any kind of our internal rules or of the law.
    The trust of our customers and the public is and continues to be our most important asset. We at Volkswagen will do everything that must be done in order to re-establish the trust that so many people have placed in us, and we will do everything necessary in order to reverse the damage this has caused. This matter has first priority for me, personally, and for our entire Board of Management.

    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments

    Dear VW, You want to overcome your back room dealing Nazi past and lying to the public till now, then hire an INDEPENDENT 3rd party company to investigate and state what should be done. Then incorporate it and FIRE all involved in this play.

    • Agree 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Dear VW, You want to overcome your back room dealing Nazi past and lying to the public till now, then hire an INDEPENDENT 3rd party company to investigate and state what should be done. Then incorporate it and FIRE all involved in this play.

     

     

    Uhhhhh...

     

     

     

    Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Dear VW, You want to overcome your back room dealing Nazi past and lying to the public till now, then hire an INDEPENDENT 3rd party company to investigate and state what should be done. Then incorporate it and FIRE all involved in this play.

     

     

    Uhhhhh...

     

     

     

    Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter

     

     

    DOOOHHHHHH  :banghead:

     

    Talk about totally missing the word External. I could have sworn when I read it, it was an internal investigation.

     

    Glad to see external.  :thumbsup:  :gitfunky:

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Before y'all get excited, let's compare recent recalls:

     

    VW: We lied.

     

    GM: People died. 

     

    #justsayin

    Don't jump the gun..

     

    http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/2013/11/diesel-lung-cancer-deaths/

     

    "An estimated 6 percent of lung cancer deaths in the United States and the United Kingdom – 11,000 deaths per year – may be due to diesel exhaust, according to a new study.

    Emission standards for diesel engines have become more stringent in recent years, but their exhaust still plays a significant role in lung cancer deaths among truckers, miners and railroad workers, the authors wrote. In addition, diesel exhaust still poses a major cancer threat for people living in dense cities or near highways, they said.

    ...

    In addition, people in urban areas face a lifetime risk of lung cancer that is 10 times higher than the acceptable risk used in U.S. health standards, according to the study. An estimated 21 per 10,000 people exposed to the amount of diesel exhaust commonly found near U.S. highways would be at risk of dying of lung cancer over their lifetime. That compares to the risk of one death per 100,000 people that is used to set air-quality standards."        

    Edited by ccap41
    • Agree 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    This mess is going to be a big litmus test for the concept of government regulation of the automobile. This isn't a situation like with GM, where the media talking heads already have it in for them. This is VW, the darling of the hippie generation who went on to infest the chattering classes.

    I suspect that within five years, VW will have weathered the storm. Either the old hippies will circle the busses, or the buying public will shrug their shoulders at the EPA's screaming.

    • Agree 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

     

    Sorry,

    overshooting and then correcting mpg hybrid figures, based on the updated drive cycles of extreme variability like a hybrid.....is hardly the same thing as intentionally falsifying software to cover your lies, and the whole time you are spewing cancer causing emissions into the environment in HUGE numbers.

     

    Ford has nothing to do with this news here.

    Bring them up again and it's good for some downvotes.......and we all know how you lose it when you get downvotes.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    Sorry,

    overshooting and then correcting mpg hybrid figures, based on the updated drive cycles of extreme variability like a hybrid.....is hardly the same thing as intentionally falsifying software to cover your lies, and the whole time you are spewing cancer causing emissions into the environment in HUGE numbers.

     

    Ford has nothing to do with this news here.

    Bring them up again and it's good for some downvotes.......and we all know how you lose it when you get downvotes.

    I didn't mention Ford ONCE in that post.

    Perhaps you've heard of Hyundai/Kia?

    So, tell me... when do you get fitted for your tinfoil hat? :D :D :D

    Turnips. Yeesh

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    I don't think it was as much of a lie as it was their internal testing procedure was just wrong, for all of them that had to make adjustments. But that's just my opinion.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    If you're referring to VW, they're as guilty as sin. That software existed since, what, '09? I mean, this is a huge, and hugely deliberate, attempt to pull a fast one on the EPA. And mark my words, they will be hammered for it.

    But they'll bounce back.

    Edited by El Kabong
    • Agree 1
    • Disagree 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

     

    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    I don't think it was as much of a lie as it was their internal testing procedure was just wrong, for all of them that had to make adjustments. But that's just my opinion.

     

     

    No matter what we all think, Bloomberg is now saying that VW is stating this actually affects 11 million auto's they made. Their stock has dropped 25% in the last 2 days so a Market loss of 25 Billion Euros in value. VW estimates 6.8 Billion Euros to fix. The following countries have now stated they will investigate and possibly fine VW. Germany, France, South Korea and Italy on top of the US and Canada.

     

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-22/vw-to-set-aside-7-3-billion-as-diesel-emissions-scandal-widens

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

     

    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    I don't think it was as much of a lie as it was their internal testing procedure was just wrong, for all of them that had to make adjustments. But that's just my opinion.

     

    Ford took liberties when they were establishing mpg ratings with several hybrids that shared the same exact powertrains, batteries, etc.  That much is clear. But it’s not the first time automakers do this kind of thing when you share so much on a vehicle.  It turned out that the much higher sensitivity in mpg based on varied use, combined with the taller C-Max profile, simply over-emphasized the delta, and Ford re-configured.  Plain and simple.  High mpg is most sensitive to aerodynamics than most other factors.  Weight is barely even a factor at 65mpg, and we know this because when we add several passengers, are mileage barely changes.  But throw a roof rack on your SUV, and your will suddenly see a 3-4mpg drop just from that, as I did with my Explorer many times.

     

    And Ford was clearly the target here, in this VW thread, even though our crafty Anti-Fordite did not say the four letter word….and I doubt there is one person here that would deny that.

     

    Back to VW.

     

    Yeah, Ouch.

    Criminal prosecution is next up they say.

     

     

    Of course, as mentioned, that is nothing compared to over-reaching with mpg’s…..for ‘some brands.’

     

    LOL

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

     

     

    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    I don't think it was as much of a lie as it was their internal testing procedure was just wrong, for all of them that had to make adjustments. But that's just my opinion.

     

    Ford took liberties when they were establishing mpg ratings with several hybrids that shared the same exact powertrains, batteries, etc.  That much is clear. But it’s not the first time automakers do this kind of thing when you share so much on a vehicle.  It turned out that the much higher sensitivity in mpg based on varied use, combined with the taller C-Max profile, simply over-emphasized the delta, and Ford re-configured.  Plain and simple.  High mpg is most sensitive to aerodynamics than most other factors.  Weight is barely even a factor at 65mpg, and we know this because when we add several passengers, are mileage barely changes.  But throw a roof rack on your SUV, and your will suddenly see a 3-4mpg drop just from that, as I did with my Explorer many times.

     

    And Ford was clearly the target here, in this VW thread, even though our crafty Anti-Fordite did not say the four letter word….and I doubt there is one person here that would deny that.

     

    Back to VW.

     

    Yeah, Ouch.

    Criminal prosecution is next up they say.

     

     

    Of course, as mentioned, that is nothing compared to over-reaching with mpg’s…..for ‘some brands.’

     

    LOL

     

    Absolutely aero plays a MAJOR factor in fuel mileage. Just take a glance at an instant mpg readout going with and against the wind to find that out.

     

    I also didn't realize THAT was their error in measuring/testing the ratings on those cars and it is good to know. Thanks for the insight.

     

    Aaaaaaaaand somebody is already gone.

     

    http://jalopnik.com/vw-ceo-martin-wintekorn-being-replaced-by-matthias-muel-1732285443

    Edited by ccap41
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites



    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • google-news-icon.png



  • Community Hive Community Hive

    Community Hive allows you to follow your favorite communities all in one place.

    Follow on Community Hive
  • google-news-icon.png

  • Subscribe to Cheers & Gears

    Cheers and Gears Logo

    Since 2001 we've brought you real content and honest opinions, not AI-generated stuff with no feeling or opinions influenced by the manufacturers.

    Please consider subscribing. Subscriptions can be as little as $1.75 a month, and a paid subscription drops most ads.*
     

    You can view subscription options here.

    *a very limited number of ads contain special coupon deals for our members and will show

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • So three major problems with this car, one, terrible Jellybean external shape, not impressed at all with the style. Second is the buttonless dash having everything via a touch screen and rotary knob, terrible safety issue as your eyes will be off the road more than on trying to find the right option in the right menu. Third is the center pack clearly cuts into valuable leg space based on their own picture. This is a hard pass.
    • Great Masculine shape, really digging the style they did here.
    • First seen at the Shanghai Auto Show (see article: Polestar 4 - The New Breed of Electric SUV Coupe), Polestar brought the Polestar 4 to the New York International Auto Show for North Americans to see in person. Polestar calls the Polestar 4 an "electric SUV 4-door coupe". Outside of that marketing speak, the Polestar 4 is a slightly lifted four-door hatchback about 190 inches in length, or roughly 2 inches shorter than a Toyota Camry.  Built without rear glass, the Polestar 4 makes use of a rear camera for visibility astern. Polestar 4 features a plethora of standard content, including 20-inch 5 V-spoke black diamond cut alloy wheels, panoramic glass roof, adaptive cruise control, 360 parking camera with 3D view, energy saving heat pump, front-illuminated Polestar logo, e-latch doors, power-operated tailgate with soft close, Polestar digital key, wireless phone charging, and 8-way electrical driver seat and 6-way electrical passenger seat. The fastest production car the brand has ever developed to date, Polestar 4 can accomplish a 0-60 mph sprint in 3.7 seconds and in top spec can produce 544 horsepower. Long-range single-motor variants have 272 horsepower and a targeted EPA range of over 300 miles. All long range variants have a 102 kWh battery capable of 200 kW charging on a DC Fast Charger and 11 kW on home level-2 charging. Google built-in is ... built in and includes Google Assistant, Google Maps and Google Play. Polestar continues to offer a leading connected in-car experience. As with all other Polestar cars, regular over-the-air updates allow for new features and improvements to be sent remotely to all vehicles. Pricing starts at $54,900, with orders opening in April for deliveries in the latter half of this year.   View full article
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • My Clubs

×
×
  • Create New...

Hey there, we noticed you're using an ad-blocker. We're a small site that is supported by ads or subscriptions. We rely on these to pay for server costs and vehicle reviews.  Please consider whitelisting us in your ad-blocker, or if you really like what you see, you can pick up one of our subscriptions for just $1.75 a month or $15 a year. It may not seem like a lot, but it goes a long way to help support real, honest content, that isn't generated by an AI bot.

See you out there.

Drew
Editor-in-Chief

Write what you are looking for and press enter or click the search icon to begin your search

Change privacy settings