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      Volkswagen Begins Controlling the Damage Over the EPA Investigation


    In light of the announcement made by the EPA on Friday about certain Volkswagen vehicles equipped with the diesel engine violating emission standards, the German automaker has been at work on damage control. The Detroit News reported on Saturday that the company had pulled all of their ads and videos promoting the diesel engines on their YouTube page and asked dealers to put a stop-sale on Beetle, Jetta, and Passat models equipped with TDI engines. No word on how many vehicles are affected by this.

     

    Yesterday, Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn issued a statement apologizing for violating emission standards in the U.S. and said the company would launch an internal investigation.

     

    The Board of Management at Volkswagen AG takes these findings very seriously. I personally am deeply sorry that we have broken the trust of our customers and the public. We will cooperate fully with the responsible agencies, with transparency and urgency, to
    clearly, openly, and completely establish all of the facts of this case. Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter," said Winterkorn.

     

    Source: The Detroit News, USA Today, Volkswagen

     

    Press Release is on Page 2


     

    STATEMENT OF PROF. DR. MARTIN WINTERKORN, CEO OF VOLKSWAGEN AG

     

    Wolfsburg, September 20, 2015 – The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board (EPA and CARB) revealed their findings that while testing diesel cars of the Volkswagen Group they have detected manipulations thatviolate American environmental standards.
    The Board of Management at Volkswagen AG takes these findings very seriously. I personally am deeply sorry that we have broken the trust of our customers and the public. We will cooperate fully with the responsible agencies, with transparency and urgency, to
    clearly, openly, and completely establish all of the facts of this case. Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter.

     

    We do not and will not tolerate violations of any kind of our internal rules or of the law.
    The trust of our customers and the public is and continues to be our most important asset. We at Volkswagen will do everything that must be done in order to re-establish the trust that so many people have placed in us, and we will do everything necessary in order to reverse the damage this has caused. This matter has first priority for me, personally, and for our entire Board of Management.

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    Dear VW, You want to overcome your back room dealing Nazi past and lying to the public till now, then hire an INDEPENDENT 3rd party company to investigate and state what should be done. Then incorporate it and FIRE all involved in this play.

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    Dear VW, You want to overcome your back room dealing Nazi past and lying to the public till now, then hire an INDEPENDENT 3rd party company to investigate and state what should be done. Then incorporate it and FIRE all involved in this play.

     

     

    Uhhhhh...

     

     

     

    Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter

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    Dear VW, You want to overcome your back room dealing Nazi past and lying to the public till now, then hire an INDEPENDENT 3rd party company to investigate and state what should be done. Then incorporate it and FIRE all involved in this play.

     

     

    Uhhhhh...

     

     

     

    Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter

     

     

    DOOOHHHHHH  :banghead:

     

    Talk about totally missing the word External. I could have sworn when I read it, it was an internal investigation.

     

    Glad to see external.  :thumbsup:  :gitfunky:

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    Before y'all get excited, let's compare recent recalls:

     

    VW: We lied.

     

    GM: People died. 

     

    #justsayin

    Don't jump the gun..

     

    http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/2013/11/diesel-lung-cancer-deaths/

     

    "An estimated 6 percent of lung cancer deaths in the United States and the United Kingdom – 11,000 deaths per year – may be due to diesel exhaust, according to a new study.

    Emission standards for diesel engines have become more stringent in recent years, but their exhaust still plays a significant role in lung cancer deaths among truckers, miners and railroad workers, the authors wrote. In addition, diesel exhaust still poses a major cancer threat for people living in dense cities or near highways, they said.

    ...

    In addition, people in urban areas face a lifetime risk of lung cancer that is 10 times higher than the acceptable risk used in U.S. health standards, according to the study. An estimated 21 per 10,000 people exposed to the amount of diesel exhaust commonly found near U.S. highways would be at risk of dying of lung cancer over their lifetime. That compares to the risk of one death per 100,000 people that is used to set air-quality standards."        

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    This mess is going to be a big litmus test for the concept of government regulation of the automobile. This isn't a situation like with GM, where the media talking heads already have it in for them. This is VW, the darling of the hippie generation who went on to infest the chattering classes.

    I suspect that within five years, VW will have weathered the storm. Either the old hippies will circle the busses, or the buying public will shrug their shoulders at the EPA's screaming.

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    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

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    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

     

    Sorry,

    overshooting and then correcting mpg hybrid figures, based on the updated drive cycles of extreme variability like a hybrid.....is hardly the same thing as intentionally falsifying software to cover your lies, and the whole time you are spewing cancer causing emissions into the environment in HUGE numbers.

     

    Ford has nothing to do with this news here.

    Bring them up again and it's good for some downvotes.......and we all know how you lose it when you get downvotes.

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    VW stock down 17% today.

    Yep. I saw that earlier as well. I don't expect it to go up for awhile either. At least until official fine numbers and whatnot get released.

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    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    Sorry,

    overshooting and then correcting mpg hybrid figures, based on the updated drive cycles of extreme variability like a hybrid.....is hardly the same thing as intentionally falsifying software to cover your lies, and the whole time you are spewing cancer causing emissions into the environment in HUGE numbers.

     

    Ford has nothing to do with this news here.

    Bring them up again and it's good for some downvotes.......and we all know how you lose it when you get downvotes.

    I didn't mention Ford ONCE in that post.

    Perhaps you've heard of Hyundai/Kia?

    So, tell me... when do you get fitted for your tinfoil hat? :D :D :D

    Turnips. Yeesh

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    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    I don't think it was as much of a lie as it was their internal testing procedure was just wrong, for all of them that had to make adjustments. But that's just my opinion.

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    If you're referring to VW, they're as guilty as sin. That software existed since, what, '09? I mean, this is a huge, and hugely deliberate, attempt to pull a fast one on the EPA. And mark my words, they will be hammered for it.

    But they'll bounce back.

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    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    I don't think it was as much of a lie as it was their internal testing procedure was just wrong, for all of them that had to make adjustments. But that's just my opinion.

     

     

    No matter what we all think, Bloomberg is now saying that VW is stating this actually affects 11 million auto's they made. Their stock has dropped 25% in the last 2 days so a Market loss of 25 Billion Euros in value. VW estimates 6.8 Billion Euros to fix. The following countries have now stated they will investigate and possibly fine VW. Germany, France, South Korea and Italy on top of the US and Canada.

     

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-22/vw-to-set-aside-7-3-billion-as-diesel-emissions-scandal-widens

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    Posted

     

     

    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    I don't think it was as much of a lie as it was their internal testing procedure was just wrong, for all of them that had to make adjustments. But that's just my opinion.

     

    Ford took liberties when they were establishing mpg ratings with several hybrids that shared the same exact powertrains, batteries, etc.  That much is clear. But it’s not the first time automakers do this kind of thing when you share so much on a vehicle.  It turned out that the much higher sensitivity in mpg based on varied use, combined with the taller C-Max profile, simply over-emphasized the delta, and Ford re-configured.  Plain and simple.  High mpg is most sensitive to aerodynamics than most other factors.  Weight is barely even a factor at 65mpg, and we know this because when we add several passengers, are mileage barely changes.  But throw a roof rack on your SUV, and your will suddenly see a 3-4mpg drop just from that, as I did with my Explorer many times.

     

    And Ford was clearly the target here, in this VW thread, even though our crafty Anti-Fordite did not say the four letter word….and I doubt there is one person here that would deny that.

     

    Back to VW.

     

    Yeah, Ouch.

    Criminal prosecution is next up they say.

     

     

    Of course, as mentioned, that is nothing compared to over-reaching with mpg’s…..for ‘some brands.’

     

    LOL

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    Hey, I didn't make you look like a moron. That was all on you.

    Sure was funny to watch you absolutely lose it tho :D :D :D

    And since you brought it up... Ford was as underhanded as VW.

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    Looks like others will have to show their cards soon as well,

     

     

    https://www.yahoo.com/autos/why-vw-might-not-be-the-only-automaker-with-a-129578004067.html

     

    Think what you want, but if Diesel was so clean, why are automakers lying about it.

    The same reason some manufacturers got busted for lying about FE-their marketing folks wrote checks the engineers couldn't cash.

    My truck uses urea. Still gets awesome FE. Urea usage is pretty modest too

     

    I don't think it was as much of a lie as it was their internal testing procedure was just wrong, for all of them that had to make adjustments. But that's just my opinion.

     

    Ford took liberties when they were establishing mpg ratings with several hybrids that shared the same exact powertrains, batteries, etc.  That much is clear. But it’s not the first time automakers do this kind of thing when you share so much on a vehicle.  It turned out that the much higher sensitivity in mpg based on varied use, combined with the taller C-Max profile, simply over-emphasized the delta, and Ford re-configured.  Plain and simple.  High mpg is most sensitive to aerodynamics than most other factors.  Weight is barely even a factor at 65mpg, and we know this because when we add several passengers, are mileage barely changes.  But throw a roof rack on your SUV, and your will suddenly see a 3-4mpg drop just from that, as I did with my Explorer many times.

     

    And Ford was clearly the target here, in this VW thread, even though our crafty Anti-Fordite did not say the four letter word….and I doubt there is one person here that would deny that.

     

    Back to VW.

     

    Yeah, Ouch.

    Criminal prosecution is next up they say.

     

     

    Of course, as mentioned, that is nothing compared to over-reaching with mpg’s…..for ‘some brands.’

     

    LOL

     

    Absolutely aero plays a MAJOR factor in fuel mileage. Just take a glance at an instant mpg readout going with and against the wind to find that out.

     

    I also didn't realize THAT was their error in measuring/testing the ratings on those cars and it is good to know. Thanks for the insight.

     

    Aaaaaaaaand somebody is already gone.

     

    http://jalopnik.com/vw-ceo-martin-wintekorn-being-replaced-by-matthias-muel-1732285443

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    Their stock has dropped 25% in the last 2 days...

    17% yesterday, 15.5% today

    $36.31 Friday, 25.44 now. 

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      The Arteon is powered by a 2.0-liter turbocharged and direct-injection TSI® engine, making 268 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque. The power is taken to the front wheels via a standard eight-speed automatic transmission with Tiptronic® shifting; 4Motion all-wheel drive is available on SEL R-Line models and standard on SEL Premium R-Line models.
    • By Drew Dowdell
      Volkswagen of America December 2019 Sales
        Dec. 19
      Dec. 18
      Yr/Yr% 
      change
      Dec. 19 YTD
      Dec. 18 YTD
      Yr/Yr% 
      change
       Golf
      314 
      281 
      12% 
      5,644 
      6,642 
      -15%   GTI
      765 
      1,045 
      -27% 
      11,672 
      16,684  -30%   Golf R
      394 
      88 
      348% 
      4,223 
      3,468  22%   e-Golf
      264 
      222 
      19% 
      4,863 
      1,354  259%   Golf SportWagen
      927 
      789 
      17% 
      10,991 
      14,123  -22%   Total Golf Family
      2,664 
      2,425 
      10% 
      37,393 
      42,271  -12%   Jetta Sedan
      8,164 
      10,261 
      -20% 
      100,453 
      90,734  11%   Jetta SportWagen      
       (now Golf  SportWagen)


               N/A 
      -  71 
      N/A 
       Total Jetta
      8,164 
      10,261 
      -20% 
      100,453 
      90,805  11%   Beetle Coupe
      324 
      455 
      -29% 
      7,704 
      8,636  -11%   Beetle  Convertible
      388 
      462 
      -16% 
      9,511 
      5,775  65% 
       Total Beetle
      712 
      917 
      -22% 
      17,215 
      14,411  19%   Passat
      714 
      3,116 
      -77% 
      14,123  41,401  -66%   CC

      11 
      -82% 
      58 
      455 
      -87%   Arteon
      283  -  N/A  2,449  -  N/A   Tiguan Limited

      189 
      -99% 
      391 
      13,546  -97%   Tiguan
      7,930 
      8,353 
      -5.1% 
      109,572 
      89,476  22%   Total Tiguan
      7,931 
      8,542 
      -7.2% 
      109,963 
       103,022 
      6.7% 
       Touareg

      58 
      -88% 
      160 
      2,022 
      -92%   Atlas
      7,400 
      6,717 
      10% 
      81,508 
      59,677 
      37%   Total Car
      12,539 
      16,730 
      -25% 
      171,691 
      189,343 
      -9.3% 
       Total SUV
      15,338 
      15,317 
      0.1% 
      191,631 
      164,721 
      16% 
       TOTAL 
      27,877 
      32,047  
      -13%  
      363,322  
      354,064  
      2.6%  
    • By Drew Dowdell
      The EPA has officially released its assessment of the 2020 Jeep Wrangler EcoDiesel. The EcoDiesel is only available as a 4-door with an 8-speed automatic and in that configuration, the EcoDiesel manages to get 29 mpg highway, 22 mpg city, and 25 combined. That is slightly better than a 4x4 Ram 1500 with the same powertrain. The next closest model in terms of fuel efficiency is the 2-door, 4-cylinder, manual transmission, rear-wheel drive Wrangler at 24 highway mpg, 22 city mpg, and 23 combined. 
      The diesel engine is a $4,000 option though so you may not ultimately save money. Instead, Jeep believes the EcoDiesel option is best suited for those who need the gobs of torque generated by the V6 diesel when going off-road. With 260 horsepower and 442 lb.-ft of torque, the Wrangler EcoDiesel has torque in spades. To the dismay of many, the Ecodiesel does come standard with electronic stop/start.
      If diesel isn't your thing, there is the 2.0T 4-cylinder which produces 270 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft of torque or the 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 which produces 285 horsepower and 260 lb.-ft of torque.  Both engines also come with stop/start or can be upgraded to the eTorque system that smooths out the torque band and either engine is available with a manual transmission or 8-speed automatic.
       

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    • By Drew Dowdell
      The EPA has officially released its assessment of the 2020 Jeep Wrangler EcoDiesel. The EcoDiesel is only available as a 4-door with an 8-speed automatic and in that configuration, the EcoDiesel manages to get 29 mpg highway, 22 mpg city, and 25 combined. That is slightly better than a 4x4 Ram 1500 with the same powertrain. The next closest model in terms of fuel efficiency is the 2-door, 4-cylinder, manual transmission, rear-wheel drive Wrangler at 24 highway mpg, 22 city mpg, and 23 combined. 
      The diesel engine is a $4,000 option though so you may not ultimately save money. Instead, Jeep believes the EcoDiesel option is best suited for those who need the gobs of torque generated by the V6 diesel when going off-road. With 260 horsepower and 442 lb.-ft of torque, the Wrangler EcoDiesel has torque in spades. To the dismay of many, the Ecodiesel does come standard with electronic stop/start.
      If diesel isn't your thing, there is the 2.0T 4-cylinder which produces 270 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft of torque or the 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 which produces 285 horsepower and 260 lb.-ft of torque.  Both engines also come with stop/start or can be upgraded to the eTorque system that smooths out the torque band and either engine is available with a manual transmission or 8-speed automatic.
       
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