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Election Night In Your Town

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Tonight is the night that is election night in your town. In Detroit, the major story is Kwame Kilpatrick vs. Freeman Hendrex for mayor of Detroit. As it looks right now, Freeman will be the NEW mayor of Detroit, something I sincerely hope happens. Thoughts and what not on local elections in your town?
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I clocked out of caring about my city's municipal elections because its well-known Scientoloists run this town and damnit if they haven't been doing a better job than the elected politicians.
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Hoping that the Democrats win here in California! I voted NO on everthing, our budget didnt have room in it for a special election!
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I know one proposal on a ballot around here won 7-0. Yes, seven people voted and they all voted yes. Seriously, not making this up, all the votes were counted. There was also a 26-25 squeaker in another small town. Gotta love living in the middle of nowhere.
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Heh...I'm all for YES on 80 though.

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Me too Croc!

It looks like we are going to beat all of the Arnie initiatives (fingers crossed).
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I'm not registered in Cali...so I couldn't vote...but I am an active in the USC Democrats! Now here's what I didn't get...our club determined NO on props 73-78, and YES on 79 and 80......Now I missed most of the debates on them, and I don't get why one would be YES on 79.....then again, I have been seeing the "Prop 79 is the WRONG Rx for CA" ads since August...
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Well prop 79 was prescription rebates for poor people so officially it was supported by Democrats but then again it didn't really make that much sense. Prop 78 was put on the ballot by the drug companies and was just writing into law the drug discount cards.
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Meh... Not that I care much, I don't vote. I think only like 15% of the voting population turned out for the primaries here... Sad. But what's even more sad is that many, like me, have realized that our entire political system and it's "elections" is a joke and just don't bother anymore... "On.. through.. the.. never.. WE MUST GO. OUT TO THE edge.. of.. for.. ever.. WE MUST GO. Then never comes." --MetallicA I dunno, that lyric just popped into my head since I'm sure people will be calling me blind and naive for not voting but obviously it's more an issue of apathy.
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Sorry, Josh. Kwame's got it.
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Hoping that the Democrats win here in California! I voted NO on everthing, our budget didnt have room in it for a special election!

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So teachers shouldn't have merit-based pay? That would save California some money right there!

Edit: spelling (again) Edited by sciguy_0504
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So teachers shouldn't have merit-based pay?  That would save California some money right there!

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Merit based pay was not in the initiatives. Prop 74 was about the process in which a Teacher could be fired.

Since Prop. 74 failed, the firing process for teachers will remain the same. The teacher is entitled to a hearing and can appeal the decision in Superior Court and again in a Court of Appeal. Before being fired, a teacher has 90 days to improve.

Prop. 74 would have eliminated the 90-day period and the need to document reasons for dismissal beyond the two evaluations.

This proposition was about punishing teachers since they did not support Arnold stealing $2 Billion in education funds. He said he was borrowing the money but later said that it would NEVER be repaid.
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Anyone hear about the bill SanFran voted in favor of pertaining to firearms? 52 to 48: It proclaims that San Francisco OUTLAW firearms within the city limits and has provisions that would make it against the law for military recruiters to set foot on high school or college campuses. Sad day in america.... indeed. Big day for Democrats overall, looks like the media crusade is working.
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Yea...there's no way Prop 74 would have won...the second you get that "teacher of the year" who was in all the proposition ads last year saying no, it was doomed to fail. The "YES" ads were pretty weak too..."Hi I'm a teacher AND a Democrat! And I'M voting YES on Prop 74!!" seriously...did anyone buy that load of crap?
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Anyone hear about the bill SanFran voted in favor of pertaining to firearms?

52 to 48: It proclaims that San Francisco OUTLAW firearms within the city limits and has provisions that would make it against the law for military recruiters to set foot on high school or college campuses.

Sad day in america.... indeed.

Big day for Democrats overall, looks like the media crusade is working.

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No, don't make it such a black and white issue...

Frankly, within the city limits there is no need for firearms. You don't go hunting in the city, and renting them in the woods is always better and safer.

As for the military recruiters, you should have been able to figure that one out yourself...First of all, I believe it is that they cannot set foot on public HSs or Colleges. Why? Because of the homophobic stance of the military. This is San Francisco for crying out loud...They are just excluding bigots from recruiting on campuses.

Several colleges have had the issue come up, and USC was one of them a few years ago...basically here the agreement reached was that military officials had to BE APPROACHED and not approach students...and the LGBTA could have a silent protest next to them. Any verbalizing of hate speech would be grounds for the military being kicked off, or the LGBT being asked to leave the area and possibly facing diciplinary hearings. I think that is a pretty fair compromise, but I can see why SF would go as far as they did...I mean it is almost like the Klan recruiting at a diverse HS or College......it would NOT be welcome.
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Sad day in america.... indeed.

Big day for Democrats overall, looks like the media crusade is working.

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Interesting choice of words... there is no "crusade" in America. Crusades are for religious purposes. These changes are a normal correction to politics leaning too far in one direction. During the Clinton years things went left and now they are too far to the right. The majority of America is in the middle and this should be viewed as a return towards the center.
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:) A very good day in America indeed! :) Now we need to win the senate and the house of congress in '06 so we can impeach that bastard. :AH-HA_wink: Want a REAL president? Vote for General Wes Clark in '08. Visit WesPac at www.securingamerica.com.
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Frankly, within the city limits there is no need for firearms. You don't go hunting in the city, and renting them in the woods is always better and safer.


I never said I disagreed with that part of it.

As for the military recruiters, you should have been able to figure that one out yourself...First of all, I believe it is that they cannot set foot on public HSs or Colleges. Why? Because of the homophobic stance of the military. This is San Francisco for crying out loud...They are just excluding bigots from recruiting on campuses.


Wow, that's A LOT of stereotyping. Personally I think it's just because of anti-military sentiment. And I've experienced this first hand, since I live in the "east coast san francisco" and was looked at like a baby killer when I put on my JROTC uniform.

Several colleges have had the issue come up, and USC was one of them a few years ago...basically here the agreement reached was that military officials had to BE APPROACHED and not approach students...and the LGBTA could have a silent protest next to them. Any verbalizing of hate speech would be grounds for the military being kicked off, or the LGBT being asked to leave the area and possibly facing diciplinary hearings. I think that is a pretty fair compromise, but I can see why SF would go as far as they did...I mean it is almost like the Klan recruiting at a diverse HS or College......it would NOT be welcome.


Interesting... Haven't heard anything about this, it does shed some light on the subject though.

Interesting choice of words... there is no "crusade" in America. Crusades are for religious purposes. These changes are a normal correction to politics leaning too far in one direction. During the Clinton years things went left and now they are too far to the right. The majority of America is in the middle and this should be viewed as a return towards the center.


www.dictionary.com : Crusade- A vigorous concerted movement for a cause or against an abuse.

I disagree, but I'm not going to start a political debate. Just watch 99% of the news and you'll see what I'm getting at and it's working, of course with OTHER factors, but it is working.
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:) A very good day in America indeed! :) Now we need to win the senate and the house of congress in '06 so we can impeach that bastard. :AH-HA_wink: Want a REAL president?  Vote for General Wes Clark in '08.  Visit WesPac at www.securingamerica.com.

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Oh, God. Sorry but you lose all credibility when you start name calling. BTW, it's Hillary v. Condi in '08 and my money is on Condi.
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Anyone hear about the bill SanFran voted in favor of pertaining to firearms?

52 to 48: It proclaims that San Francisco OUTLAW firearms within the city limits and has provisions that would make it against the law for military recruiters to set foot on high school or college campuses.

Sad day in america.... indeed.

Big day for Democrats overall, looks like the media crusade is working.

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1) It's San Fransisco
2) It's Calfornia

No offense to anyone. It's just the area's very utopian, socialist and naive political beliefs.
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Oh, God.  Sorry but you lose all credibility when you start name calling.  BTW, it's Hillary v. Condi in '08 and my money is on Condi.

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Nope, if it looks ike the Dems are going to nominate Hilary, the Reps will do anything they can to get a nominee with a penis, same goes for the Dems is the Reps nominate Condi. Americans are, as a whole, afraid of change. Electing a woman, for now and the forseeable future, is going to be hard, if not impossible, because we feel too safe with white men running the country. Racist? Yes. Sexist? Yes. But Americans are stupid, racist and sexist. 2008 will be rich white guy vs. rich white guy again.
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I never said I disagreed with that part of it.
Wow, that's A LOT of stereotyping. Personally I think it's just because of anti-military sentiment. And I've experienced this first hand, since I live in the "east coast san francisco" and was looked at like a baby killer when I put on my JROTC uniform.
Interesting... Haven't heard anything about this, it does shed some light on the subject though.
www.dictionary.com : Crusade- A vigorous concerted movement for a cause or against an abuse.

I disagree, but I'm not going to start a political debate. Just watch 99% of the news and you'll see what I'm getting at and it's working, of course with OTHER factors, but it is working.

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Crusade from Webster's
1 capitalized : any of the military expeditions undertaken by Christian powers in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries to win the Holy Land from the Muslims
2 : a remedial enterprise undertaken with zeal and enthusiasm

As for the recruitment on campus... who cares? I'm sure the government will be calling every high school kid since you still have to register with the selective service.

And there is definitely a Right Wing bias to the news in San Diego, CA. Or better yet watch Fox News, CNN and MSNBC and just try and tell me that any of those are liberal biased! At best MSNBC is moderate and CNN is turning into a mini-Fox news.
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Oh, God.  Sorry but you lose all credibility when you start name calling.  BTW, it's Hillary v. Condi in '08 and my money is on Condi.

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Oh, God. Sorry but you lost credibility when you voted for that evil, moronic jerk called George W Bush. And Hilary vs Condi?----PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!! What you Bushies don't realize is that the Dems don't want Hilary....but that's not what the right-wing media will have you believing.
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