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If you look at countries around the world, the U.S. certainly is not in '3rd world' territory AFA vaccination rate. 76% is right with Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, the UK, France, Japan, etc. I have read hundreds of comments on a specific O/T subject from around the world, and it can be surprising how ignorant some folk from other countries' impressions of the U.S. are. Another unrelated comment I remember reading was a visitor from Europe was visiting friends in NY, and wanted to know if they could drive and see the Pacific Ocean one day. Ignorance is well distributed, globally-speaking.3 points
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I'm not laughing about them, but can't feel sorry or sad for them, they brought it on themselves with their stupidity. Looking at that specific list, it's all idiots...2 points
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@Drew Dowdell @Robert Hall Had a zoom meeting with my coworkers in Cork Ireland and now that 95% of the population is vaccinated and boosted, 97% has vaccination, the place is opening up with only 1 requirement, to wear a mask out in public and inside public areas till June. Otherwise, the overall jubilation of the folks that they are getting back to a much more normal way of life, with some very solid changes, over 50% of Irish people have groceries now home delivered reducing the amount of people shopping in store and a few other things I thought was interesting like 88% of all alcohol sold is home delivered. They asked me why was America being so dumb about vaccination and how it keeps the hospitals from being overwhelmed? I honestly could only say due to ignorance of both educated and uneducated people that have bought into the Great American LIE as I have begun to call it about vaccination, and political agendas of people. It is amazing to hear from around the world how head shaking this has become when a simple process of getting vaccinated can reduce the issues. I honestly think the ones here that are very much against the Covid Vaccine have not tried to understand the science or even read valid data on the virus as they seem to buy into the greatest lying media Facebook. My wife has a friend she has known for decades, she is 70 years old, very much Anti-Vaxxer and believes even with no testing or proof that she had Covid multiple times already and swore she had the Omnicron Variant at Thanksgiving last year. I pointed out that the first case was reports in South Africa November 24th 2021 and in the US as of Dec 1st 2021. How could she have it before it got here? Her response was that it already was here in the air and she knows this because the proof is on Facebook. ? When did Facebook become a credible News / academia source of data? Right NEVER! ? It really is sad, but I have also become one that those that wish to ignore it and think they can survive without vaccination, then should pay for it all. Let them pay more in hospital costs, insurance, etc. Why should the rest of us that are vaccinated be affected? Let the Military setup Triage tents and let the unvaccinated attempt to recover in the tents and let those being responsible get back to life and if needed elective surgeries in the main hospital.2 points
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While this does happen in other countries, I think this is a largely U.S. thing (with some spillover into Canada). IMHO, it's largely the fault of our education system based on a flawed view of "fairness". This idea that you have to give both sides equal time, equal attention, and equal consideration, that "everyone's opinions are valid", and the gross confusion surrounding what is an opinion and what is a fact. Anyone can have the opinion that they don't want to get the vaccine... but that doesn't mean the opinion was formed with actual facts. Many times that opinion is formed first and then the "facts" are sought to support it no matter what quack they come from. While there are valid reasons to not get the vaccine (allergic to an ingredient, extremely compromised immune system), there are far more not valid reasons floating around out there (It has microchips, it's untested, it causes blood clots (not true for mRNA versions), it causes cardiac inflammation (very rarely, and the virus causes it more, and all cases of it being caused by the vaccine have been resolved with treatment). We've just gotten to this point where nothing is ever true because you can always find someone with an agenda to disagree with anything. Most of the anti-vax movement that was around before Covid was caused by 7 or 8 people who run pyramid schemes to sell herbal supplements and their influence has only grown since. They have a vested interest in spurring vaccine doubt because they hope to tell more of their snake oil. My bet is that those at the top of the pyramid are all secretly vaxxed. The sad thing is that no presentation of facts will ever sway the opinions of these people because their opinion, and by extension their ego, would be too bruised if they are shown to be wrong. They have to continue to believe quacks to keep their ego intact.2 points
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It just seems like people continue to devolve and get dumber and dumber...I wonder if there was so much skepticism and denial of the science when the polio vaccine was introduced, for example? My older brother was of the generation of kids where that was first used.. that was in the 50s, but there are still people alive that remember it... Sadly, the older I get, the more "Idiocracy" feels like a documentary...2 points
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I just don't understand... what are people like this trying to prove? And there are so many of them. I mean... I kinda get not wanting a "new" vaccine even though the safety and efficacy is proven... I don't agree with it and I think those people are wrong... but people were afraid of lightbulb too at one point... or when men thought that women riding on trains going over 25 mph would have their uteruses fall out... But what's the point of denying that a virus that can kill you exists and that if you take off the medical equipment, you'll die? It's like wandering into a tiger enclosure, taking off your protective gear, booping the tiger in the nose with a stick and then while the tiger is devouring you, you deny its existence just to try and prove someone wrong?2 points
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Seems after 13 years since its resurrection that the Dodge Challenger has finally taken the crown as top selling Muscle Car. It Took 13 Years, But The Dodge Challenger Has Finally Won (jalopnik.com) In 2015 Ford Mustang hit it peak followed by the Chevrolet Camaro and every year since has dropped in sales. 2015 was also the year that Ford released the current Mustang that is still selling 7 years later. 2015 Ford Mustang sold 122,349 to 66,377 Challengers. 2021 Sales Ford Mustang 52,414 Chevrolet Camaro 21,893 Dodge Challenger 54,314 Dodge say's being the segment leader was not the aim, but rather delivering to the Muscle car crowd what they wanted in the form of various packages and special limited-edition Challengers like the 392, Scat Pak, Demon, Hellcat, etc. Dodge has done one thing that both Ford and GM are missing from their Muscle cars as well as the full lineup and that is the Skittles of Color options and package options. I do have to agree with the final statement of this story: I have no pony — sorry — in this race, but I will commend Dodge for doing the most with the oldest. The Challenger only has two years left, tops, and I have a feeling the 2024 run will set sales records as people try to snap up the very last of the ICE muscle car breed. If the supply chain allows Stellantis to build enough of them, that is. With only a couple years left before Dodge, Chevrolet and Ford are supposed to start transitioning their muscle cars to BEVs, it is going to be an interesting time over the next 24 month.2 points
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It is. And some stupid people are insufferable. The "don't know how much they don't know" crowd can be more hostile and more argumentative because they don't have facts. They don't want dialogue that involves exchanging information. We have an example of similar idiocy in my very family. One uncle came over from Europe to visit us on the West Coast. He is/was the biggest douche bag of the many siblings on one parental side. When he got to California, he stated what he wanted to see and said that he wanted to see Niagara Falls. That meant he had no concept of scale. I told him that that was like going from Lisbon to Eastern Europe. My parents also picked up the tab for him, and his wife, to fly to the Pacific Northwest and to San Francisco during this trip. He was a pill on both trips. He wanted to see one of the bridges, so I took the rental car with all of us onto the Bay Bridge because it was cheaper. He went ballistic. First, you don't just "ascend" onto the bridge deck. You have to find the on-ramps in S.F. Then, when you get to the other side, you're in Oakland. I didn't get off the freeway because I didn't know and didn't want to experiment with Oakland. So I went further out to a nicer suburb with a full interchange to drive us back to the city. During this prolongation, he kept yelling. Of the countries in Europe I keep up with, I knew Portugal leads in vaccination efforts. That's impressive for a smaller and not particularly rich European country. Spain (which I don't see on this graphic) would be behind them, and ahead of Italy and France. France has seen their own "don't tread on me" demonstrations in their streets. It's not. But some people make us shake our heads. On my homepage were some links about some guy named Doug Kuzma. It turns out he has/had a podcast where he touted the typical packaging of the anti-vax crowd. His platform was called FROG network. I thought that maybe he liked amphibians ... or was poking fun at the French. FROG means "Fully Rely On God." A person from this group posted that Doug needed "heavy, heavy" prayers. He was only 61 and now on a ventilator, unconscious. The first thing that came to mind was the adage that "God helps those who helps themselves." He was pushing those drugs we've heard about that start with "i" and "hydro" as an alternative to the vaccine. If you heard this guy, I doubt his critical thinking skills in the realms of science and practical topics were that developed. A few days later, I found out he didn't make it. You just shrug.1 point
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This is the source I referenced the first time, in case anyone wanted to see : https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/vaccination-rollout-and-access/ No vested interest, not promoting it, not saying it's the best, just posting a source. - - - - - It's actually Gibraltar who is apparently "leading the world" (whatever that outmoded concept may mean). They have a population of 33,675 and the BBC puts them at the top of the list with "121%" fully vaccinated". Or - assuming there's something amiss with a percentage over 100 - it's Pitcairn, whom 100% of it's [67] people are vaccinated. If anyone thinks telling someone who doesn't want to get the vaccine that -say- 'Cuba had a higher rate than the U.S.' is going to do jack squat; boy are they going to be disappointed.1 point
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At this point, if you got your first & 2nd shot in the spring of '20, it's pretty much ineffectual for you, so the focus as far as effectively vaccinated goes (if one wants to talk about that instead), should be on the 3rd shot.1 point
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Math. Here is another site, around the same percentage for 1 dose in the US nationally. This has a breakdown for 1 dose, fully vaccinated, and booster shot state by state... too many states with low percentages. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1202065/population-with-covid-vaccine-by-state-us/1 point
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