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What I am wondering is if any of the mainstream brands can top Tesla, or if Tesla will eventually bring out some cheaper models and just put several legacy car companies out of business. So far in 2022 the Model Y and Model 3 each outsell any product from Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda or Subaru. The Model Y is outselling the Explorer and Wrangler and is on pace with the Equinox. And the Model Y is like a $60,000 car. We've seen how pitiful the sales volumes are on stuff like the iD4, the EV6 and Ionic 5 are pretty low and slowing in sales already, Nissan Ariya is a bust waiting to happen. So how do those companies survive when they are EV only? They are going to need cars like the Ionic 5 selling 200,000 units a year, and they are struggling to hit 25k units a year.

I find it interesting that you can find and read stories about International Harvester being brought to market by VW as a serious Off-road EV product in SUV and Truck Form. VW's International Harvester Scout will reportedly be a true off-roader | Autoblog They always show images like this from the story above. Which on one hand says they are coping the general look of the Rivian R1T and R1S, but then I also see some of the Atlas Tanoak truck too. It will be interesting if we ever actually see a Scout for sale in the U.S. The best info I can find is this New Startup venture by VW to focus on a true off-road company that will build and sell the Scout in SUV and Truck form. Global Volkswagen Group strengthens leadership to advance NEW AUTO strategy in North America - Volkswagen US Media Site (vw.com) Here they say prototypes will be revealed in 2023 with production starting 2026. The Scout Brand is Coming Back as a Rugged Electric Vehicle (newsweek.com) 2026 Scout electric truck (pickup): Everything we know (topelectricsuv.com)

Agree that the whole Quirky to be Quirky is over for most buyers and that Kia and Hyundai choose to stay close to their current styling. I feel for GM, they started the Style of the EV on their ICE and the EV is the next generation of it. Much like how Cadillac started with Arts & Science style and evolved that before the blah current design of the CUV/SUV. I do like the new style of the LYRIQ EVs. Will be interesting to see how things evolve this decade as the auto industry moves into EVs and air streaming for battery efficiency plays out.

I feel like that's because they didn't just make them quirky just to be quirky. For the most part, they look like regular small SUVs. I don't think GM is exactly doing the same with Chevy EVs. Silverado vs Silverado EV and Equinox vs Equinox EV, you can clearly tell the EV version is quite different. I completely disagree that they're taking the same approach as Audi. The Blazer is different, too, but their "grille" area was given a little more of a "conventional" approach...just by blacking it out.

Seems Chevrolet is ramping up the marketing of their EVs. An Electrifying Future For Everyone | Chevrolet Family Photo of the current products coming out by 2023. Reese Witherspoon is the new Voice of Buick! An Electrifying Future Ahead | Discover Buick Check out the cool info on current ICE auto's and their EVs to come.

The ICE cars look better than the EV's. I think most car companies feel they need to make EV's look futuristic or different so early adopters buy them or they scream EV. But people like how the S-class looks, they like the GLE, just make the electric versions look like that. I think Ford did that well with the Lightning, the F150 formula works, no need to mess it up, they know buyers like the F150, you don't have to reinvent it.