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30 years ago at the U of Michigan my PhD advisor had a dark green '93 Bonneville w/ the tan leather interior.. I don't recall the trim level or engine, but it was a nice car..rode in it a couple times to dinner/etc. He also had a white '92-ish GMC Jimmy 4dr (the square S15-based one). He's now the president of Carnegie Mellon U.

I would totally drive a red or black Bonneville with the tan leather interior... like '93 - '95. I'd want the SSEi for the supercharged 3800, but I wouldn't turn down the regular 3800.

These were awesome engines, just needed a huge engine bay as any straight-line engine needs. I call BS on this, I feel that if you cannot respect the cost of taking care of your truck and to me abuse it by damaging it, then your just lazy and clearly have no idea about how to use tools properly. I have heavily used my trucks, SUVs and CARs and never babied them, but always kept them looking sharp. Yes, accidents happen and sometimes when one is tired you might put a scratch on it, but this truck has just been abused by someone that does not care. His statement of a Truck you're afraid to beat-up is no longer a truck is BS, you do not need to beat up a truck to still have it as a useful tool. A person who abuses their vehicles tells me a ton about their approach to how they work and live and they are just lazy and do not care. Do you really want a person like that working with you or doing work for you when they cannot take any pride in their own tools, makes one question if they would really take any pride in their job, products they do, etc.

In both cases its the cycle that humans let run for decades. Neither party is innocent, go back to the year I was born Americans were bombing kids in Vietnam and the Chinese were enslaving children and adults in the cultural revolution and the Marxist garbage in China. The thing that disgusts me is that I think we have more economic and political liberty to change the situation and it persists, so, in my calculus having more ability to change and not changing is worse. One of my favorite philosophers is Simone Weil. She was highly skeptical of both Capitalism and Marxism, and doubted that humans were in many cases capable of grand change or collective action. I am kind of with her on this. Thank you for being sane and reasoned, and putting up with the bitching on the left from all of us here. We now return you to this forum, where our love of dashboard plastic matches the love JD Vance feels for living room furniture. In Sport mode, the Camry will move, and the Turbo 4 in the Ranger has not disappointed me. 131,000 miles on that beast, has run well so far...knock on wood. They were damn fine vehicles. The last of them are rotting to oblivion and running their final miles here in Ohio. Sad to see them go. The Big Buicks were the best of the lot IMHO. The Camry and Ranger are both easy for me to park in the city, even parallel park. A dually pickup truck would not be so easy though.

Heh heh..I'm 55.. can't believe 60 is so close. After 25+ years of mostly driving Grand Cherokees, I do enjoy driving my Cadillac sedan. But it is a handful in tight parking lots due to the overall length, long wheelbase and AWD. Had to make a few 25 point turns in tight parking lots in Beaufort, SC and Savannah GA on my vacation....as I was driving around those cities with their colonial-era narrow streets I was wondering what it was like in the 60s-80s with the huge and downsized but still huge B-bodies, C-bodies that were common then... a lot more scratched bumpers and door dings then, I suppose. I have no idea how people park full size double cab/crew cab pickups in cities, but I see a lot of it.

C&G's 25th birthday is coming up in August of this year and I wanted to give you some updates. I haven't been posting as much lately, but that doesn't mean I'm not here. I am working on a massive overhaul of the site ahead of our 25th birthday. Background: The Invision Community software we are on is V4. Support for V4 is tapering off rapidly as V5 was released over a year ago. V5 is a major change to how the software operates and as a result many of the plug-in authors who wrote software that I purchased for us have abandoned their projects. This has put me in the position of holding off on V5 until I can get certain things built or replaced. In the meantime, I'm also making a lot of changes in the background that will translate over to V5 seamlessly. What's done: The Garage has been completely replaced. The author of the Garage plug-in abandoned it years ago. His site is still active but loaded with spam posts. I used Claude Code to reverse engineer his plug-in into an IPS.Pages app (the app that runs our Articles system and comes with the main software). My primary goal here was to get all of your vehicle profiles transferred into the new system and preserved prior to a V5 upgrade. I will make the Garage prettier once we move. Fixed an issue where Google treated the comments forum of an article as duplicate content. This watered down our search results significantly, hindering people from finding the site. It will take Google months to figure all this out and fix it, but it will improve things going foward. Fixed an issue where Google was only able to read 500 of our Albums. What's in progress: Albums are getting massive search engine optimization overhaul. I'm using AI to read every single one of our nearly 2000 albums to properly optimize them for search results. For albums, the AI downloads the thumbnails, analyzes the pictures, adds meaningful descriptions, and special tags that help the search engines. It then finds the article that album is associated with and creates links to each other. Instead of Image01.jpg the search engine now sees "2027 Nissan Z NISMO front three-quarter view at dusk". This process is very resource intensive and the AI can only do about 50 a day. Articles are getting optimized as well. We have almost 7,000. You will probably have noticed this in the latest articles from @G. David Felt and myself. When one of us posts, the article is held hidden until I run the optimization process on it. It adds Headings, image tags, and meta tags for the search engines. It will do minor grammar and spelling checks, but the AI has very strict instructions not to change the tone, voice, and feel of the article. What you are reading is by us even if it gets a little punctuation and grammar polish after. In addition to SEO changes, older article sometimes use formatting that no longer works in the current software. There's frequently broken image links, pagination that doesn't work properly, and more. The AI is fixing it all. New fields have been added to Articles that you can't see. It allows us authors to classify the article based on news, opinion, new car release, historical, and more. Also make, model, model year, size, class, and others. What this will allow me to do is build Hub pages. We will have an EV hub for example. The current Auto Show categories will go away and be replaced with Auto Show Hubs. Major brands that get a lot of search traffic will get their own hubs, so we'll likely have a GMC hub and Mercedes-Benz hub. These hubs will consolidate content from Articles, Albums, and Forums into one space. Want to look at all content for GMC from 2018 - 2020? You'll be able to filter on that. The AI is also going to back fill this data to all of our old articles. I completed the first test run of 50 articles this morning. Only 6,950 to go! Our weekly newsletter is about to resume. You can manage your Subscription preferences in your Account Settings. We have officially opened the doors to welcoming AI Crawlers and instructed them to cite us correctly if they use our information. We now have a published AI Crawling Policy and the background site instructions for the crawlers to follow. Roadmap - There's a lot to do still before our birthday! V5 Upgrade - I am planning for this to happen in June of this year, possibly earlier if I can get the hubs pages built faster. There will be a significant update to the look and feel of the website when this happens. Our current theme vendor also quit now that V4 is done. Dedicated App - We already have the progressive web app, but for August I am planning on releasing native iOS and Android apps in the app stores. Automatic distribution to Social Media - draw in more traffic to our articles. We will have a slight tweaking of our branding. If you get the site update e-mails, you'll see the beginnings of it already. We'll have some updated graphics for Pride month and for our Birthday coming out mid-summer. What Else? I've been elected to the board of the Washington Auto Press Association (WAPA) for 2026. It will give me better access to content making opportunities. I'm actively developing another app of my own for your homes that you will all be invited to the Beta for. I'll make another post on that later today. Assuming that app takes off, I will be quitting my other consulting gigs that I've been working at full time for over a year with and focus on Cheers & Gears plus my other app called Apartmatic.

I know the Site News forum doesn't get a lot of traffic....

Most of that is old stuff. M5 processor is out now and six of those devices are M3s, one is an M2 iPad. The iPhone 15 Pro an Pro Max were not some of Apple's best work and we're on 17 now. I just can't with 4-cylinder turbos on premium aiming products. No one has really fixed the NVH of these engines and they all sound terrible. I'd really rather a small displacement 6 cylinder, say 2.5 liters with a turbo for premium stuff. Buick to Benz, they all sound bad.

She looks like a fake plastic surgery disaster bimbo...no substance there. Just a wannabe Kardashian...

This is where I need the meme from the movie Clue where Professor Plum yells out. "I've got news for you! We're already there!" I think I might make one.

This one for me ... no spoiler, nice color, but the cladding was a bit much, though. I'm guessing it was designed from scratch and does not share the greenhouse of the previous model. Busy but interesting dashboard. This would have been a car bought second hand by a diner waitress in or near Redding, California that she would drive while holding her cigarette out the window.

335hp and a 10spd auto. It's only turning like 2000-2500 rpm at 70 cruising on flat terrain. And has AFM, so sometimes running on 4 cyl only. I have to watch myself passing...pull out to around a truck, stomp on the gas and I'm doing 85-90 pretty quickly. I try and use the cruise control a lot.

Fun people know how to laugh at themselves. Italians are funny people, they are great to poke fun at, and they can usually laugh at themselves. I forgot how funny this scene was. This whole movie was one of those timeless gems from happier times.

The Jeep is very easy to park... shorter wheelbase (114.8 in) and overall length than the Caddy (16 inches shorter)...and it's shorter than a typical late model Accord or Camry. The big mirrors and back up camera help overcome the thick pillars and small windows. My old GC was even easier, it was 8 inches shorter w/ larger side windows.. The Caddy averages about 27-30 mpg on flat roads w/ cruise control set around 70...though lower on I-77 through WV and VA with lot of mountains and passing of slow moving trucks.. loads of power for passing in the mountains.

$45k for an appliance FWD CUV w/ a 4cyl in white w/ a gray interior is pretty depressing to imagine. My Jeep was in that price range 12 years ago, much nicer design inside and out and well equipped w/ a V6 and AWD...and with inflation, the equivalent spec to that on a 2025 is about $53k..same engine and transmission, AWD, same color scheme, trim level and options. My sister's '23 Chevy Equinox LT was $34k out the door new at the end of 2022. She got $15k in trade on her 2015 Trax and paid cash for the difference.

There is also Genesis with their 3 sedans (G70, G80, G90) and Lexus still has the IS, ES, and LS.

I mean, even the regular sport models can skedaddle faster than anyone should be skedaddling. The Magma versions are going to be insane. Boost mode in the existing models makes you feel like a cartoon character. Boost mode in the Magma will launch you into low earth orbit and you'll knock out some of Elon's Starlink satellites.

A7 is tecnically a hatch. but correct on the rest. We were only counting sedans.

Altima and A8 are canceled or at the end of their production runs without being replaced. There is no more challenger, that was a coupe anyway You missed Ioniq 6N and coming BMW i3 Neue Klasse

There are still some options for car folks: Kia compact K4 Kia mid-size K5 Gensis Compact G70 Genesis Mid-size G80 Genesis full size G90 Toyota mid-size Camry Honda compact Civic Honda mid-size Accord Hyundai compact Elantra Hyundai mid-size Sonata Hyundai mid-size Ioniq 6N Nissan compact Sentra Nissan mid-size Altima Cadillac compact CT4 Cadillac mid-size CT5 Dodge mid-size Charger Mercedes compact C-Class Mercedes Mid-size E-Class Mercedes Full size S- Class BMW compact 3 series BMW Mid-size 5 Series BMW Full-size 7 series BMW i3 Neue Klasse Audi Compact A4 Audi mid-size A6 Audi full size A8 Tesla Compact Model 3 Lucid Mid-size Air If your in Canada or Mexico there are more car options especially from Kia in regard to their new EVs. One could consider buying and importing it into the U.S. Note: Updated list to remove a retired car and add five missed cars.

This is a new platform over the previous body, yes. It's Aurora based and between the two, I'd go with an Aurora of this generation.

Three volumes gives you plenty more to work with artistically.

The simple modern three box sedan ages remarkable well because it never claims to be doing something it isn't.

The mid sized GM cars of that Era do it more than the full size, although the full size cars had a grace and class unlike anything built today. But give me a cutty, swivel buckets, am 8 track, and lots of endless highway. Will take that all day every day. This ages very well. Some people I like at first, and dislike more and more as time goes on. Some people, I dislike and grow to like. This has gone for me from Meh, cool but not like the old stuff to "Fantastic"

I'm very limited with my Bonneville years. Liked '88 onward, but only '90 and '91 with the color block tail lamps. Then, anything 2000 until the curtain fell on the Bonne, in LE trim but with buckets/console and the base alloys. It would be a 3800, but sadly only Series II. I especially liked the last Bonneville ... and its unique rear tail lamp assembly. - - - - - I forgot ... how can I forget the '75 and '76 Grand Ville Brougham or Bonneville Brougham coupe with a landau roof and the typical Pontiac rally wheels of that era? 400 c.i. V8 and up, so no thanks to that.

Interesting about Pep Boys..I had no idea. There aren't any in my area, looks like they have a few locations down in Youngstown and in Central Ohio around Columbus. Auto Zone, Advance and O'Reilly are my locals. I tend to prefer O'Reilly, if only because I worked on their inventory system for a while on a project when the consulting firm I was at in Arizona had them as a client.

Always liked those old Dodges...I learned to drive in the mid 80s in a '79 Dodge Power Wagon 4x4 short wide box pickup my Dad had. Very numb steering--no on center feel at all, bouncy suspension, would stall on left turns. Was very clean w/ like 25k miles..silver green inside and out.

Always liked the 00s Impalas..had many as rentals when I lived in Colorado then Arizona and would travel back to Ohio and elsewhere in the Midwest and East...along w/ Intrepids and 300Ms, Grand Marquis, Town Cars and the occasional DeVille/DTS (and drove my sister's 00 DTS a lot). Don't recall having had a Buick as a rental, but always liked the looks of the 90s-00s Park Avenues..

I love that movie, it Rocks!!!

Relax ... sixty is the new forty!

Things not looking good on the world stage.

The second sad video, I swear I live in the rectal orifice of the United States sometimes....Even though Ohio has a LOT going for it...

Yeah, and if you’re a dumb dumb, like I expect that user was they left the key fob inside the car

Thank you, I updated the list as I totally forgot about Genesis cars. There are still some options for car folks: Kia compact K4 Kia mid-size K5 Gensis Compact G70 Genesis Mid-size G80 Genesis full size G90 Toyota mid-size Camry Lexus mid-size ES Honda compact Civic Honda mid-size Accord Hyundai compact Elantra Hyundai mid-size Sonata Hyundai mid-size Ioniq 6N Nissan compact Sentra Nissan mid-size Altima Cadillac compact CT4 Cadillac mid-size CT5 Dodge mid-size Charger Mercedes compact C-Class Mercedes Mid-size E-Class Mercedes Full size S- Class BMW compact 3 series BMW Mid-size 5 Series BMW Full-size 7 series BMW i3 Neue Klasse Audi Compact A4 Audi mid-size A6 Audi full size A8 Tesla Compact Model 3 Lucid Mid-size Air If your in Canada or Mexico there are more car options especially from Kia in regard to their new EVs. One could consider buying and importing it into the U.S. Note: Updated list to remove a retired car and add five missed cars.

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By the time you are ready to retire your truck, you might just have a compact / mid-size EV Truck to replace it. That is of course we wake up and remove Idiot47, Kia/Hyundai move forward with their electric trucks that are in test mule format now and Ford / GM / Toyota Deliver as all have said they are working on compact / mid-size EV Trucks.

I completely agree with you on the West coast being much more EV friendly and people are adapting much quicker out there. I just don't think there will be many people looking for 80-100k vans. I get it, they are crazy spacious, but people are just stubborn on the van-shape. Outside of the price, which is supposedly pretty nuts, IMO, it SHOULD do well. I just don't think it really will. It's kind of like most station wagons. A ton of people love their utility but very few actually follow through with their higher-than-a-comparable-SUV/sedan price.

My younger son owned a 3800 Buick that he loved, and a bunch of friends drove these vehicles. My grandfather passed mid eighties when I was in high school. He was always a Buick guy. I would give anything for just one good road trip with him in one of these!

Tall overdrive gear and good torque at low RPM. Even the 3800 powered Bonnevilles and LeSabres could manage 30+ mpg highway fairly effortlessly.

Sadly, my dad had considered back in the 70's of becoming an AAMCO Franchise, but after starting down the rabbit hole, discovered things he was not thrilled with and choose to stay independent. As such, the whole Icahn approach to how they run things has turned me off from these companies. I have little faith in them being honorable and more about how to take your money and give little back.

Thoughtful review, and I love the paint scheme. I just don't love it $76,000 worth. He actually likes it.

Very cool tech to see what the actual condition is of ones vehicle. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/ownership/this-ai-scanner-in-california-can-see-every-nut-and-bolt-under-your-car-and-it-s-changing-the-dealership-game/ar-AA1YzlUO?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69b9548379774192922d9e06fa6c4966&ei=15

There are certainly some "in the area", but I really don't know where one is. It's really just a wait and see for Scout, for me. As much as I'd love one, this feels like it may be the biggest hurdle to get over. Price is pretty cut and dry, can I afford it or not? Where or how will I get it serviced, because it isn't set in stone right now, is an issue. I also don't know which I'd get, the SUV or truck? My first instinct says the SUV, but I'd love the bed of a truck. I only need two rows of seats so even if the SUV offered a 3rd row(I haven't looked into or remember if it does or not), I'd leave it flat more likely anyway. Okay, well I googlemaped Pep Boys and they are NOT in the STL area. I feel like they used to be, because I remember the commercials, but they certainly are not anymore.

Ugh, the uncertainty is that's annoying there. I would just hate to now know, but I understand that's how it goes sometimes.

Cool little video, thanks. The music sort of reminds me of ... never mind! Arlington, Texas was the final assembly point for both of our family's Cutlass Supreme coupes. I thus have a fondness for that GM plant. I spent way too much time in college going to check out cars - from classifieds, at dealerships ... Had I not done that, I could have graduated magna or summa! Maybe ...

What I was really going to say: On this 14th of March, what type of pie are you having, going to have, or, if not partaking, would like to have had? I'm in door #3 and, as far as pie goes, I wouldn't even know where to start.

Drove great on vacation.... really a great road trip car, soaks up the miles..I had mostly short days--25-300 miles, but one day (Asheville, NC to home outside Cleveland, Oh) was 550 miles... fast, smooth and comfortable. Getting decent gas mileage also. I ran into a retired couple from Michigan in Macon, GA in the hotel parking lot one morning--they have an identical 2019 CT6 with 148k miles! Mine is at 63k now. Hours of rolling along, mostly streaming a 1990s grunge soundtrack (Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, Temple of the Dog, Mad Season, Alice In Chains, etc) and some later Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters and Audioslave...reliving the music of my 20s-30s.