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30 years ago at the U of Michigan my PhD advisor had a dark green '93 Bonneville w/ the tan leather interior.. I don't recall the trim level or engine, but it was a nice car..rode in it a couple times to dinner/etc. He also had a white '92-ish GMC Jimmy 4dr (the square S15-based one). He's now the president of Carnegie Mellon U.

I would totally drive a red or black Bonneville with the tan leather interior... like '93 - '95. I'd want the SSEi for the supercharged 3800, but I wouldn't turn down the regular 3800.

These were awesome engines, just needed a huge engine bay as any straight-line engine needs. I call BS on this, I feel that if you cannot respect the cost of taking care of your truck and to me abuse it by damaging it, then your just lazy and clearly have no idea about how to use tools properly. I have heavily used my trucks, SUVs and CARs and never babied them, but always kept them looking sharp. Yes, accidents happen and sometimes when one is tired you might put a scratch on it, but this truck has just been abused by someone that does not care. His statement of a Truck you're afraid to beat-up is no longer a truck is BS, you do not need to beat up a truck to still have it as a useful tool. A person who abuses their vehicles tells me a ton about their approach to how they work and live and they are just lazy and do not care. Do you really want a person like that working with you or doing work for you when they cannot take any pride in their own tools, makes one question if they would really take any pride in their job, products they do, etc.

In both cases its the cycle that humans let run for decades. Neither party is innocent, go back to the year I was born Americans were bombing kids in Vietnam and the Chinese were enslaving children and adults in the cultural revolution and the Marxist garbage in China. The thing that disgusts me is that I think we have more economic and political liberty to change the situation and it persists, so, in my calculus having more ability to change and not changing is worse. One of my favorite philosophers is Simone Weil. She was highly skeptical of both Capitalism and Marxism, and doubted that humans were in many cases capable of grand change or collective action. I am kind of with her on this. Thank you for being sane and reasoned, and putting up with the bitching on the left from all of us here. We now return you to this forum, where our love of dashboard plastic matches the love JD Vance feels for living room furniture. In Sport mode, the Camry will move, and the Turbo 4 in the Ranger has not disappointed me. 131,000 miles on that beast, has run well so far...knock on wood. They were damn fine vehicles. The last of them are rotting to oblivion and running their final miles here in Ohio. Sad to see them go. The Big Buicks were the best of the lot IMHO. The Camry and Ranger are both easy for me to park in the city, even parallel park. A dually pickup truck would not be so easy though.

Heh heh..I'm 55.. can't believe 60 is so close. After 25+ years of mostly driving Grand Cherokees, I do enjoy driving my Cadillac sedan. But it is a handful in tight parking lots due to the overall length, long wheelbase and AWD. Had to make a few 25 point turns in tight parking lots in Beaufort, SC and Savannah GA on my vacation....as I was driving around those cities with their colonial-era narrow streets I was wondering what it was like in the 60s-80s with the huge and downsized but still huge B-bodies, C-bodies that were common then... a lot more scratched bumpers and door dings then, I suppose. I have no idea how people park full size double cab/crew cab pickups in cities, but I see a lot of it.

Most of that is old stuff. M5 processor is out now and six of those devices are M3s, one is an M2 iPad. The iPhone 15 Pro an Pro Max were not some of Apple's best work and we're on 17 now. I just can't with 4-cylinder turbos on premium aiming products. No one has really fixed the NVH of these engines and they all sound terrible. I'd really rather a small displacement 6 cylinder, say 2.5 liters with a turbo for premium stuff. Buick to Benz, they all sound bad.

She looks like a fake plastic surgery disaster bimbo...no substance there. Just a wannabe Kardashian...

This is where I need the meme from the movie Clue where Professor Plum yells out. "I've got news for you! We're already there!" I think I might make one.

This one for me ... no spoiler, nice color, but the cladding was a bit much, though. I'm guessing it was designed from scratch and does not share the greenhouse of the previous model. Busy but interesting dashboard. This would have been a car bought second hand by a diner waitress in or near Redding, California that she would drive while holding her cigarette out the window.

335hp and a 10spd auto. It's only turning like 2000-2500 rpm at 70 cruising on flat terrain. And has AFM, so sometimes running on 4 cyl only. I have to watch myself passing...pull out to around a truck, stomp on the gas and I'm doing 85-90 pretty quickly. I try and use the cruise control a lot.

Fun people know how to laugh at themselves. Italians are funny people, they are great to poke fun at, and they can usually laugh at themselves. I forgot how funny this scene was. This whole movie was one of those timeless gems from happier times.

The Jeep is very easy to park... shorter wheelbase (114.8 in) and overall length than the Caddy (16 inches shorter)...and it's shorter than a typical late model Accord or Camry. The big mirrors and back up camera help overcome the thick pillars and small windows. My old GC was even easier, it was 8 inches shorter w/ larger side windows.. The Caddy averages about 27-30 mpg on flat roads w/ cruise control set around 70...though lower on I-77 through WV and VA with lot of mountains and passing of slow moving trucks.. loads of power for passing in the mountains.

$45k for an appliance FWD CUV w/ a 4cyl in white w/ a gray interior is pretty depressing to imagine. My Jeep was in that price range 12 years ago, much nicer design inside and out and well equipped w/ a V6 and AWD...and with inflation, the equivalent spec to that on a 2025 is about $53k..same engine and transmission, AWD, same color scheme, trim level and options. My sister's '23 Chevy Equinox LT was $34k out the door new at the end of 2022. She got $15k in trade on her 2015 Trax and paid cash for the difference.

There is also Genesis with their 3 sedans (G70, G80, G90) and Lexus still has the IS, ES, and LS.

I mean, even the regular sport models can skedaddle faster than anyone should be skedaddling. The Magma versions are going to be insane. Boost mode in the existing models makes you feel like a cartoon character. Boost mode in the Magma will launch you into low earth orbit and you'll knock out some of Elon's Starlink satellites.

A7 is tecnically a hatch. but correct on the rest. We were only counting sedans.

Altima and A8 are canceled or at the end of their production runs without being replaced. There is no more challenger, that was a coupe anyway You missed Ioniq 6N and coming BMW i3 Neue Klasse

There are still some options for car folks: Kia compact K4 Kia mid-size K5 Gensis Compact G70 Genesis Mid-size G80 Genesis full size G90 Toyota mid-size Camry Honda compact Civic Honda mid-size Accord Hyundai compact Elantra Hyundai mid-size Sonata Hyundai mid-size Ioniq 6N Nissan compact Sentra Nissan mid-size Altima Cadillac compact CT4 Cadillac mid-size CT5 Dodge mid-size Charger Mercedes compact C-Class Mercedes Mid-size E-Class Mercedes Full size S- Class BMW compact 3 series BMW Mid-size 5 Series BMW Full-size 7 series BMW i3 Neue Klasse Audi Compact A4 Audi mid-size A6 Audi full size A8 Tesla Compact Model 3 Lucid Mid-size Air If your in Canada or Mexico there are more car options especially from Kia in regard to their new EVs. One could consider buying and importing it into the U.S. Note: Updated list to remove a retired car and add five missed cars.

This is a new platform over the previous body, yes. It's Aurora based and between the two, I'd go with an Aurora of this generation.

Three volumes gives you plenty more to work with artistically.

The simple modern three box sedan ages remarkable well because it never claims to be doing something it isn't.

The mid sized GM cars of that Era do it more than the full size, although the full size cars had a grace and class unlike anything built today. But give me a cutty, swivel buckets, am 8 track, and lots of endless highway. Will take that all day every day. This ages very well. Some people I like at first, and dislike more and more as time goes on. Some people, I dislike and grow to like. This has gone for me from Meh, cool but not like the old stuff to "Fantastic"

I'm very limited with my Bonneville years. Liked '88 onward, but only '90 and '91 with the color block tail lamps. Then, anything 2000 until the curtain fell on the Bonne, in LE trim but with buckets/console and the base alloys. It would be a 3800, but sadly only Series II. I especially liked the last Bonneville ... and its unique rear tail lamp assembly. - - - - - I forgot ... how can I forget the '75 and '76 Grand Ville Brougham or Bonneville Brougham coupe with a landau roof and the typical Pontiac rally wheels of that era? 400 c.i. V8 and up, so no thanks to that.

Interesting about Pep Boys..I had no idea. There aren't any in my area, looks like they have a few locations down in Youngstown and in Central Ohio around Columbus. Auto Zone, Advance and O'Reilly are my locals. I tend to prefer O'Reilly, if only because I worked on their inventory system for a while on a project when the consulting firm I was at in Arizona had them as a client.

Always liked those old Dodges...I learned to drive in the mid 80s in a '79 Dodge Power Wagon 4x4 short wide box pickup my Dad had. Very numb steering--no on center feel at all, bouncy suspension, would stall on left turns. Was very clean w/ like 25k miles..silver green inside and out.

Always liked the 00s Impalas..had many as rentals when I lived in Colorado then Arizona and would travel back to Ohio and elsewhere in the Midwest and East...along w/ Intrepids and 300Ms, Grand Marquis, Town Cars and the occasional DeVille/DTS (and drove my sister's 00 DTS a lot). Don't recall having had a Buick as a rental, but always liked the looks of the 90s-00s Park Avenues..

I love that movie, it Rocks!!!

Relax ... sixty is the new forty!

Sorta true sorta not. It implies that Tesla had some sort of magic but what it really was was funding from the legacies. For many of the early years of Tesla, the only way they made money was buy selling clean energy credits to the legacy makers. Big gas trucks literally funded Tesla's growth. The legacies didn't get tax dollars for EVs until later. The Bolt was developed with GM knowing it would lose money on it because GM would never be able to sell the clean energy credits like Tesla did. The big tax incentives same later after 2020 during the Biden administration and it was the only way the legacies didn't lose their shirt on EVs. But if you think about it. Ford, GM, Chrysler, Nissan, Volkswagen, and Subaru can't even make a profitable mid-size sedan right now, much less make money on EVs.

The auto industry also has the ability to just "do the right thing" on their own, right? i get that the president is a POS and he makes bad decision after bad decision, but this also needs to be put onto the auto manufacturers. They had 15 years to get to the point of building affordable BEVs with adequate range, but they sat on their hands until like 2019 or so, while getting our tax dollars. Now that they aren't getting our extra tax dollars they just decide to cancel them? That sounds exactly like the "corporate greed" that all of us regular people are sick and tired of. The fact that it is something oh so earily broken. They're unnecessarily funky to operate. Oh, and we get ice here in the Midwest and I can guarantee they are, at the very least, finicky when it's 0 degrees F and there's ice on the vehicle. The fact that there's even discussions on a door handle and how it operates, means it's been over-thought. These stupid flush door handles very likely would not stop me from buying something with them, but that doesn't mean I have to like that function.

Yeah, given Stellantis' quality/reliability issues, a 5000lb SUV w/ a 2.0 turbo 4 just seems like asking for trouble. I just find the current market pretty boring and uninspired. The only vehicles I have any interest in are $75k to over $100k. Which I can afford but really can't justify the spend.. Better to invest in upgrades to my house and maybe purchase a winter home as I approach retirement in the next decade (which I'm having a hard time admitting to myself), keep my current vehicles going indefinitely...

They are self de orbiting like everything else he does.... In all seriousness, this is badass and a whole new generation of performance cars. I might even become and entheusiast again.

The RPM of this setup is Crazy and I want to actually take one for a test drive. Be interesting to see what the price is once they are shipping and what it sounds like.

I really hope so.

By the time you are ready to retire your truck, you might just have a compact / mid-size EV Truck to replace it. That is of course we wake up and remove Idiot47, Kia/Hyundai move forward with their electric trucks that are in test mule format now and Ford / GM / Toyota Deliver as all have said they are working on compact / mid-size EV Trucks.

And the details make a huge difference. This guy matches my level of cynicism....

Tall overdrive gear and good torque at low RPM. Even the 3800 powered Bonnevilles and LeSabres could manage 30+ mpg highway fairly effortlessly.

I'm saying that the retail store was removed from Pepboys. Old footprint: PepBoys: Service bays + Retail auto parts and accessories (typically the retail area alone was bigger than an AutoZone) AutoZone: Retail auto parts and accessories New Footprint: PepBoys: Service bays only AutoZone: Retail auto parts only

Very cool tech to see what the actual condition is of ones vehicle. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/ownership/this-ai-scanner-in-california-can-see-every-nut-and-bolt-under-your-car-and-it-s-changing-the-dealership-game/ar-AA1YzlUO?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69b9548379774192922d9e06fa6c4966&ei=15

This should sell pretty well. Even a Rav4 can hit $50k now, a well equipped Bronco Sport is over $40k. So $50k for one of these seems like a pretty good deal.

This is going to be Rivian's killer app. A CR-V sized crossover with better than CR-V sized interior room. Enough range to combat range anxiety, decent towing capacity for its size, and fast acceleration. All for the roughly the same price as an X3 or GLC. It's what will save Rivian.

There are certainly some "in the area", but I really don't know where one is. It's really just a wait and see for Scout, for me. As much as I'd love one, this feels like it may be the biggest hurdle to get over. Price is pretty cut and dry, can I afford it or not? Where or how will I get it serviced, because it isn't set in stone right now, is an issue. I also don't know which I'd get, the SUV or truck? My first instinct says the SUV, but I'd love the bed of a truck. I only need two rows of seats so even if the SUV offered a 3rd row(I haven't looked into or remember if it does or not), I'd leave it flat more likely anyway. Okay, well I googlemaped Pep Boys and they are NOT in the STL area. I feel like they used to be, because I remember the commercials, but they certainly are not anymore.

yeah, for me that's an extra $26 a fill up. Good thing it's almost motorcycle weather... both take premium, but it's a lot less painful for 4 gallons than 26-ish.

Cool little video, thanks. The music sort of reminds me of ... never mind! Arlington, Texas was the final assembly point for both of our family's Cutlass Supreme coupes. I thus have a fondness for that GM plant. I spent way too much time in college going to check out cars - from classifieds, at dealerships ... Had I not done that, I could have graduated magna or summa! Maybe ...

What I was really going to say: On this 14th of March, what type of pie are you having, going to have, or, if not partaking, would like to have had? I'm in door #3 and, as far as pie goes, I wouldn't even know where to start.

Went in for my annual service/oil change (about 5000 miles since the last one). Been parked most of the winter, weather been cold and snowy.. warming up and melting. Got a new set of tires last week (replaced the Bridgestone Potenzas with Firestone Firehawks), getting an oil change and new battery today--I think I had the original battery--after all the cold weather recently, noticed it was down to 10.3 volts when starting, but rising to 15.x after a few min. Want it in ship shape before my 10 vacation in two weeks..road trip down to Beaufort & Hilton Head, SC, Savannah and Macon GA and Asheville, NC.. After picking it up from the dealer, stopped for tacos near home. Still turn around and look at it after parking.. beautiful car.

It's gorgeous....just thinking of missed opportunities...wish GM had built the Cadillac Elmiraj...a similar luxury coupe concept.