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Abysmal interior. So cheap-looking. Why the multiple panels along the side of the console/center stack? I see two poorly-fitted panels when one would appear to suffice. I know it's pre-pro, but interior fit and finish is abysmal. I hope we get a different, less cheap-looking woodgrain trim. The Malibu interior looks much more upscale. Center console looks very plasticky and cheap. Like looking at it, I don't want to rest my elbow on there. The charcoal-colored universal dash upper and door panels looks sterile and cheap. C'mon GM...if you're going to go for universal upper dashes and door panels, pick a color that isn't so drab. Now, I like the exterior. The front looks very expensive, and the profile is fairly dynamic. I want to see the rear in person, because from the rear 3/4 angle it looks kinda droopy, but that isn't a tacked-on spoiler...so I gotta see how it all comes together in person. The large CHMSL looks good, though I want to ensure the whole thing lights up and not just a thin strip surrounded by acres of red surround. Exterior: B+ Interior: D Overall: C- "This is what we've been waiting for? Half-baked would be a compliment."

I'm crazy possessive about my Aurora. I know how you feel. One of my best friends is getting his license soon, and part of me wants to help him out by taking him to a parking lot and all...but no I just can't do it.

Vegas is just a clone of LA. Summerlin = Irvine on steroids. The Strip = Sunset Strip on steroids. It's just nuts.

OK, so they delete body-colored power-adjustible side mirrors...and didn't replace them with anything? Hmmm...I can't imagine the listing for Lacrosse is complete, just like I can't see black side mirrors being introduced. Given other changes across the GM lineup, I'm gonna guess new side mirrors with integrated turn signals will be standard. Which is why it gets the 3.9L now.

I like Silver Moss and other shades of muted silver-green. I was sad when the SRX lost that color a few MYs back...I think it was called "Sage Green Metallic" or something like that... And I was thinking more of the Ford Aspire than the Festiva, but hey that works too.

Tahiti Green and Aqua Blue Metallic? What is this, 1991?

Really, come to Southern California and we'll argue about it. NY isn't all that, though it's better than some places.

Eisenhower had a 4 pack a day habit and quit cold turkey in the late 50s. Those were with those cigarettes and their higher nicotine levels back then.

Agreed. C'mon Chris...are you this naturally naive or do you take some kinda pill for that? You give this guy access to your place, unsupervised, while you're in Vegas, and you're gonna wind up on Judge Judy trying to get some money back after he trashes the place--if he even makes good on the rent payment in the first place without a litany of excuses. Don't be a sugar daddy. Plus he has his friend in Newport to stay with.

I haven't made use...he was playing Stevie Nicks the other day and I commented on it, and that's when he mentioned the connection.

Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac fame?? Sidenote: one of my Fraternity brothers' mother handles the accounting for them, so they always get VIP tickets to Stevie/Fleetwood shows. How cool is that?

I do that too. My habit should not be anyone else's habit unless they choose to.

Indianapolis originally, but I got some sense and moved to Los Angeles. Can't imagine living anywhere else...

Agreed. I would never smoke in a car. That $h! smells foul, after it's marinated in there on a hot summer day, and the film on the windows/windshield...yuck.

They won't do it. They didn't do it for the SRX, they won't do it for the CTS wagon. I also fully expect it to have a more traditional greenhouse.

I need cupholders. And a lot of them. It's funny, the biggest complaint I have with my 2001 Aurora is the poorly-designed cupholders (they let condensation fall on the console right where the seat heater switches are). It's not a huge annoyance, but one of those "geez, how was this not caught during testing?" issues. That said, considering that's my biggest complaint with the thing, it's a damn good car.

Stevie Nicks has quite a voice :AH-HA_wink:

It's certainly more distinctive.

Yea, it gets to the point where the frustration is mostly in that you know you don't have total control. But the thing is...smoking is really enjoyable. Definitely helps you decompress, relax, and sort through things. It's also really social. I guess the thing is...I really don't want to quit, but really just keep the intake low. ETA: That's why I switched to Djarum Blacks...yea they're more expensive, but they're clove cigarettes (kreteks) and they don't make you reek. Plus they burn slower, and aren't any worse for you than normal cigarettes.

Half pack or less per day for me. not quite a year at this point, though I've smoked off and on for the past 2-3 years (less than half pack per day). What are your favorite brands? I like Camel Lites, and can go for Parliaments every so often, but mainly I stick to the Djarum Blacks--I find I smoke a lot less of those. Camel No. 9s are also pretty damn good even though they're an ultralite marketed to women...they are very good.

As someone who has spent the majority of his life in the snow belt, no, this isn't an issue of road salt. If that were the case, a lot more vehicles would look like that. The vehicle in the picture is late-model, meaning it has seen no more than 10 winters. Judging by the overall appearance of it, probably much fewer than that. If the frames crack like that, it is the sole problem of Toyota as I have never seen anything like that before.

To put it bluntly...

My vote is for the 4x4. The extra visibility trucks afford makes it the perfect choice for a newer driver.

QFT. I mean, at least you (OC) were honest about it. Like what's with the sulking if it really was no big deal? Honestly, what you should do is invite this other guy over for dinner or something to get to know him since if he's a friend of your BF's and all...and then you can get a read on the chemistry or hopefully lack therof. Just don't be a ninny about it and be all obvious.

Oh I'm a night owl through and through...but "chipper" I'm not. My nights are for good conversation and chillaxing, but unless I'm high on something I'm not bouncy or chipper. Given that he dolled himself up to go over to a friend's house and all...it just strikes me as off. I mean did he just come from the gym and needed to shower/put on cologne or something?? BUT...at least he didn't shower right after coming back home. So it can go either way. But I've found that in general, if I think something's off, I need to listen to my intuition because it's usually because something is off. Trying to accomodate someone and "I don't want to overreact"-ing usually, at least for me, is more indicative of denial than not.