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My question though will always be: are they really lesbians? Maybe bisexual at best...but I still maintain it's more girls flashing and dancing together than actually having SEX with each other. I wouldn't even classify GGW as gay for pay...Honestly...are two girls going out partying together and making kissy faces together any different than two guys going clubbing with one as a wingman? Yea, the guys aren't making kissy faces together for girls (AWKWARD!) but I'll bet you anything they'll be showing off biceps or something. Same thing...just a different way of expressing it.

Yea...I personally find the stereotypical flaming gay personality very, very irritating. The bitchy, bull dyke/feminazi stereotype is equally annoying... But there are far more flaming gay guys than feminazi lesbians in the world...and also since many more masculine lesbians are more low-key (as in knowing when to Chill Out) and in general operate at a lower frequency than flaming gay guys, yea the gay guys get more attention...and if that attention is negative then yes more negative attention...but I really don't think Americans overwhelmingly "don't disapprove of" lesbians but are revolted by gay men. I just don't see it. My friends have been assaulted and called nasty names with "dyke" keyed on their cars far too many times for me to believe that.

Wow I agree with a lot of what you've written there. I've never understood the whole "coming out" thing myself, and my bisexual/lesbian friends and even a couple of my gay fraternity brothers have tried to explain it as some "personal thing that really helps some people"...but I don't feel this overwhelming need to have a straight pride march, shout from the rooftops that I'm straight, or make a flag about it...I just live my life as who I am.Then again, this whole myspace revolution of "personal expression" seems to be all the rage these days...

BINGO!! THANK YOU!!

I think the religious right condemns both pretty equally. Gay men are just far more visible than lesbians. It is far more socially acceptable for women to be unmarried to a member of the opposite sex than men, though. Men are suspected as gay if they don't date and get married. I definitely remember a media brouhaha when Anne Heche and Ellen Degeneres came out together. I'm also pretty sure it caused Ellen's career to tank on TV for 5 years. Do you have credible research on this? Because I have many many female friends who think two gay guys are really hot together. Just sayin...I think it depends on whom you talk to. Yet societal pressures generally vilify strong women, gay or straight. Now this is just flat-out wrong. Men feel a need to appear strong to the opposite sex, but I think popular, common phrases like "bros before hos" and "help a brother out" pretty much show men stick together too. Name a man who refuses "guys night out." Football and beer? The entire existence of the Fraternity system is proof that guys form bonds with other guys and help each other out. Guys do it too, just differently. We say "nice shirt" and pass a beer instead of throwing our hands to our mouths and screaming "OH! MY! GOD!!!! I LOVE THAT SHIRT!!!" As far as never voicing an opinion about another's appearance...yea you prolly won't hear too many hetero guys saying "that dude was kinda hot" but you'll most certainly hear a "man that dude was RIPPED!" from time to time... Yea, if you only look for what you want to see. See, I got into a lot of trouble at lunch back in HS for making (in retrospect) asinine statements like "lesbians have it better than gay men." How many lesbians are you really close too, blu? Just curious...

Meh, I'm not too upset. I'll be with a much larger group of people, so it'll be way more fun.

Now THAT'S HOT!

At least to your knowledge.

That is so far from the truth! Back in HS 3 girls in the group I hung out with a lot ended up being bisexual or lesbian...and each of them had to endure quite a bit.

oooooooo she looks like a hotter rachel bilson

Heavens no!

Yea I'm gonna be there on opening day...

I give people nicknames far more often than I get them. It doesn't help that I rarely respond to any nicknames given to me, either...

so he's gay...big f@#king deal

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I'm in one of those years somewhere...

Dude, don't be a smartass.5 years ago some days the site would be down completely because the server was overloaded. The mods and Walt would pay for the upkeep themselves. Negotiating new servers, etc. Were you around for the two Great Crashes where all data was lost? That happened due to massive server failures. Honestly, I'd rather have the regularly-occurring 500 error than the random server failure. Also, if you're noticing a regular, every-20-minute error, you're on the site more than is healthy. Just sayin'...

They drugged it for you.

Scott? Heh...I still talk to him on AIM occasionally...actually its more like he gets drunk and starts drunk-IMing me...he's a cool guy...but damn he's flaming haha...goes to Georgetown now.You wanna talk about reminiscing? I just found those two Donkey Punch! songs on my itunes...

I'll send it to you :AH-HA_wink:

Remember the infamous "adsd" thread? I still have it on my computer...

Wow...time sure has flown by!

or also enjoy: and

so it has side vents and mesh...

Razor, if a town does not want the interstate access, and expresses this sentiment to the state government, I guarantee you the government will agree to avoid spending the millions of dollars to construct an interchange.And yes, Hoosiers hate change. It's a cultural thing. Even the people in the cities hate change. I used that as an example for Indiana, not painting a picture of rural Americans being change-fearing imbeciles who cannot make the decisions best for themselves.