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Why are we bitchin' at this? Because we think that EVs are going to be same shyte appliance compliance vehicles? GM has been doing exactly that since the 1970s. Even GM's pony cars at about 1979 or 1980 with the 2nd gen and DEFINETELY with the 3rd gen this has been going on... Its an argument that has loooooong been written. 1980s Ford Thunderbird/Mercury Cougar 1980s Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable 1980s Ford Mustang/Mercury Capri 1980s Ford Tempo/Mercury Topaz Chrysler's K cars Chrysler's Cloud cars. 1980s AND 1990s FWD GM Pontiac Bonneville/Oldsmobile Delta 88 and 98/Buick LeSabre Chrysler's cab forward midsizers both gens before going to RWD. Chrysler Concord, Dodge Intrepid, Eagle whatever it was... Eagle Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse 1st gen and 2nd gen Volkswagen in Europe with Seat cars in the 1990s... This has been going on for a LOOOOONG time waaaaaay before EVs came into the picture. Can we just stop the EV drama???!!!

Looks like the Olds and Buick version... Then goes on to look like the '80s Cavalier version...

Midnite Express 'Lil Red Express

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https://www.motortrend.com/news/10-suvs-with-fold-flat-seats/ Folding the seats down flat puts the "U" in the "V" Alex LeanseWordsMotorTrend StaffPhotos Feb 7, 2020 BLAH BLAH BLAH... This stems from the mindless shyte people read and listen to on an everyday basis. So marketers tend to lower themselves to the lowest common denominator. And...most of us fall for that nonsense hook, line and sinker.

Hmmmmm.... Scalable... Art Morrison GM A Body modernized and reinforced frame And the possibilities from this idea are endless... Of course if money was no object kinda of thing. But restoring classic cars done the RIGHT way is kinda hugely expensive and often a money pit without any monetary gains in the end EXCEPT for a HUGE smile of the restorer and/or owner at the end of the finished project.

Watching that Delorean EV video and I couldnt help but singing Huey Lewis and the News songs. Well...one in particular and it aint the Power of Love either. I never liked the Delorean. It always seemed odd to me. The one thing that stuck out like a sour thumb to me in the Back to the Future movies WAS the Delorean. Never liked it. (the car. I LOVE the movies!) But learning about it, and about John Z and his famous sabotaged FBI case, I later in life found it quite hilarious that Doc Brown made a time machine out of John Z's creation. Making me appreciate the car. So...back to the song. I think the fact that Im singing a Huey Lewis and the News song with those lyrics fits the Delorean and its EV incarnation quite nicely.

^^^ Wouldnt Bruce Banner to Hulk smash be Gamma? As in Gamma ray?

For sure for sure. Im just creating dialogue. Trying to draw some parallels. Because acceleration is linear and constant with EV propulsion, there is no violent pushbacks. Because there is no transmission upshifts, there is no jerking motions. Just a uniform fast, very fast acceleration. Like a rocket propelling itself to get out of earth's atmosphere. Like I said before too, there is no rumble from an engine to add to the acceleration and the transmission upshifts. THAT would also contribute to the fun. That is why I wanted to draw the F&F parallel with hopped up Honda Civics and Terror filled Turbo Supras. Chevy Bolt EV: fast accelerating vehicle along the lines of a hopped up Civic or Focus RS. Lack of V8 rumble... We all know that hopped up Civics are cult icons with a certain car crazy demographic. Not everybody wants a V8 to go fast. Not everybody wants a buzzy 4 cylinder either. This is where crazy turbos and 6 cylinder engines come in... With the Bolt though, its just an econobox. It aint even in the style of a Golf GTI or Civic CRX or Fiesta ST in that those econobox ICE vehicles, the suspension tuning and the steering and the engine/transmission tuning is geared for AUTOMOTIVE ENTHUSIASTIC driving pleasure. The Bolt EV is...just an econobox CUV tuned for boring daily driven commutes. Its not tuned to be...fun. Like a Fusion Sport. Its a phoquing fast sedan. A family hauling sedan. An AWD turbo 2.7 liter V6 that is quite faster than the Bolt EV. But it aint an Audi S4 competitor. Or even an A4... Its just a V6 ho-hum sedan. If you could call 325 HP and 350 ft/lbs ho-hum. It just doesnt lend to enthusiastic type of sprinting through the twisties. But it DOES drive extremely comfortable in hauling a family though. Teslas are more like BMWs in the driving department. But THAT has MORE to do with the batteries being down low in the platform for a low center of gravity and with no front engine heaviness. Tesla sedans handle the twisties kinda like a BMW. The thing is though, the suspension tuning is no-where near what BMWs have... If they did, Teslas would be even MORE fun to drive than BMWs. But...no engine noises. Electric drive train whines and the creaks you get that you dont normally hear with ICE vehicles BECAUSE of the ICE rumble. Like you are saying. Some people like that. Some people dont. But a Tesla sedan IS more fun to drive than a Bolt. JUST because a Tesla sedan IS tuned to be more of a 'sport sedan' and a Bolt is...well...an econobox EV CUV. That is why I said that I would much prefer an ecoboosted 4 cylinder Mustang myself over a Bolt or Focus RS, because I would want that front engine, RWD feeling over FWD/AWD. But I would ALSO want a RWD/AWD Tesla Model S sized EV muscle car sedan to go along with my RWD V8 muscle car coupe. I want both actually. EV and ICE. EDIT: Ill just add that some people like the rocket ship, linear acceleration of an EV. Some people prefer the 'violent', different stages of accelerations of an internal combustion engine and its transmission up-shifts. To each their own. And one is no better than the other. Enjoy what you enjoy.

The G Forces pins you to your seat with a Tesla. And nails you there for the during of the acceleration. (not saying a Mustang GT500 wont be able to do the same, because it does...Im just describing what happens as Ive driven my partner's Model S hard and I have been a passenger as well as HE accelerated hard) Well...now...you are adoring a 5.0 V8 RWD sports car over an econobox CUV...tall wagon...or whatever GM wants to call it... because it really is a CUV... Same difference when adoring that same Mustang over a Ford Focus RS or Fiesta ST... I too...would prefer your V8 Mustang over any of the other cars mentioned here. Shyte...Id rather an ecoboosted 4 cylinder Mustang over the Bolt or Focus RS or Fiesta ST. And yes...aural stimulation does play into the equation with a V8 Coyote. But sometimes, even THAT is not enough to entice folk to keep on buying V8s. The whole Fast and the Furious thing is built on the notion of NOT driving V8s... And THAT trend started a whole decade BEFORE the first movie came out...

Never been to Paris... But...Id say not more stinky than say, NYC in the 1980s and 1990s(which I have been to multiple times) . Or Athens (Greece). Athens is no longer stinky though. Ah....Europeans at their finest. Europeans in general, at least from the 1970s-1990s were all like that. Did you know that they made fun of North Americans for taking daily showers? Well they did! But that too is no longer true as Europeans today DO shower daily as we do in North America. Well...that is certainly subjective. And you are entitled to that opinion. Food in Paris is probably lethally expensive. But hey! THAT is part of the Parisian experience of paying an arm and a leg for your food and to socialize with rude and arrogant local yokels! YES! I would like to visit The French Riviera and Northern France for the WW1 and WW2 military history myself! YES! Greece is that one place that if I only had the choice to visit one country ever...Greece would be the one that Id choose, even if Ive been there many many times. However...Id like to add Great Britain to that list. France. Germany. And of course ITALY! Which youve mentioned. But I needed to repeat! And of course Id love to visit ALL of Italy. From North to the South. The Boot. From the East Coast to the West Coast not forgetting the middle as we all know, Italy is so diverse in its history and landscape and what the country and its people have to offer. But that is only a part of Europe. There are other countries in Europe Id like to visit. Then there is Asia. Shyte.... Where do I begin in explaining what country Id like to visit in Asia???!!!

I remember something my partner telling me about Tesla removing regen braking settings option on newer EVs. I dont think there is an option for a low setting anymore... Just a thought I had since we were on that subject.

When the Habs win...Im all proud (of Montreal...not of the Habs) but when they lose...Im freakin' ecstatic. (For the Habs losing, not so much for the city...) And when I come across a gem like this...Im exploding with JOY! Yeah Gallagher! Go phoque yourself! But then I immediately remember that THE Bruins super pest is best friends with Gallagher...