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I came to this realization 2 years ago. First, I heard Louis CK's stand-up comedy routine on God and money and why money and how He put "shyte on the ground for us to eat and mmmmmm bacon... funny bit. And then when I went to Greece on a family trip 2.5 years ago. I thought about what my mommy told me (yes mommy, I will ALWAYS be her little boy...I miss her) She told me when she left her parents at the age of 16 to live in Athens. She told her parents that she is done being a poor farmer's daughter. She will BUY her own bread...not make it herself. And so with THAT thought 2 years ago, I was thinking about what true freedom was. What being rich truly was. What it all meant. I was VISITING Greece...the island paradise part of Greece. I wanted to escape the clutches of the 1st world. I was thinking about the peaches and figs I USED to pluck fresh from the trees as a visitor as even that does not exist anymore on the island paradises of Greece. I was thinking about how my mommy lived back then. I thought about how SHE wanted to and finally did, was to LEAVE THAT kind of life far behind her. For a better way of life. A life NOT as a slave to farm your own food. A life that SHE provided ME with and now, I had the riches to take MY family back to where it all started from... I get to buy...bread, canned peaches and a plane ticket to paradise...yet my mommy...had FRESH figs, FRESH bread and FRESH peaches and the bloody beach at her fingertips... The irony still strongly resonates with me. And now...this lovely message I get to read.

LOL You got that right! Most things sold in Cacada Canada are more expensive. (oops...keyboard Freudian slip...) Just kidding. I LOVE CANADA! I saw Don Cherry's youtube clip on the Canadian Juniors beating Germany 16-2 and a Russian troll in the comments wrote that about Canada. First time I heard it and I laughed... Scroll down a tad to see it... Сергей Аксенов2 weeks ago Канада какнада I google translated and google gave me Canada Kaknada. But Im no fool...I KNOW what the dude meant... Still funny though.

I liked some of these pics @A Horse With No Name As I wanted to post a B2 Bomber to compliment the pic of the falcon and to comment how the pic reminds me soooo much of a B2.... The internets beat me to it...

Im not asking him to change his mind on EVs. I dont care what side he is on. Im asking...like he does of politics...is to stop trolling about EVs... Valid points ARE to be made for AND against when ANY discourse arises on ANY subject. HE...does NOT discuss... Again...why I feel I get bullied because the issues at hand ONLY SEEM TO BE DIRECTED AT ME... I do NOT see YOU get all riled up against HIS trolling... YOU BLINDLY defend "his opinion" directing it AT me saying NOBODY will change his mind, yet I SAY CLEARLY WHAT IRKS ME...TIME AND TIME AGAIN...and ii falls on DEAF EARS... Im not asking him to change his mind on EVs. I dont care what side he is on. Frankly, I dont give a damn! Im asking...like he does of politics...is to stop trolling about EVs... Valid points ARE to be made for AND against when ANY discourse arises on ANY subject. HE...does NOT discuss...he trolls Lets move along from this as I do NOT want to start another war...but at least listen to what it is I have to say and do NOT try to ridicule me as you tried to do...again. At least TRY to be sympathetic as to what it is Im saying. Even if you dont give a damn! But at least NOW...you know why I say I get bullied in here. If you have any doubts...re-read YOUR responses to me while keeping what I said FRESH in your mind and see what CCAP posted... Back to the subject at hand...

Not sulking about the downvote per se. But here you are...defending ant-EVers when they make outlandish statements...and trying to shame folk that speak with some sort of clarity regarding EVs... And yet...MY opinion regarding trolling of misinformation gets ridiculed... TROLLING of MISINFORMATION is not a bummer? Again..why I feel I get bullied in here. Cursing and name calling gives you the willies... But reading CONSTANT bullshyte does not? Well...that CONSTANT BSing gives ME the willies... But somehow, MY opinion that someone is CONTSANTLY trolling gets tossed aside and I get spoken too loud and clear by YOU and CCAP...AND you keep on defending the troll... Yup...I get bullied in here...and everybody else that has a POSITIVE view of EVs... Anyway...

Well... I once wrote that I had several IMMEDIATE neighbors that own Teslas and a business partner with one as well, when I countered blu with his mis-informed ideas of EV ownership and I was downvoted by...you for it. No...not MY experiences with EVs. But when I said that THEIR ownership is completely 100% THE opposite of what blu was spewing, I dont think I deserved that negative downvote...ESPECIALLY without an explanation from you. (Now do you understand why I say I get bullied?) And...the folk in here DEFENDING EVs are NOT doing it by pushing an EV agenda...we are doing it to COUNTER FALSE information that is tooted as facts. (which makes ME wonder on the amount of silliness that is posted against EVs is if in fact there IS a hidden agenda against EVs) THAT aside... All the close people I know that DO own EVs also have a 2nd vehicle in the family. And THOSE vehicles ALL happen to be ICEVs. But then again, these people do NOT do long car vacation trips either way. Only one neighbor does family car trips. But he owns 2 ICEVs. Its my Moldavian neighbor who had negative ideas on American cars until he drove them and now owns 3 GM cars. His recent purchase: a 2019 Cadillac XT5 (350T). I do moderate travels. I have done Boston many many times. As with Lake George and Quebec City. Toronto and Ottawa a couple of times. I sometimes rent cars. I sometimes take my own. Depending on my mood. Therefore if I had an EV, my trend of using my car or renting would stay the same. Yeah...Id travel with an EV across the border (provincial or American) . It make me practice my internets by using apps to plan out my trip as to where Id have to stop to charge up.

Sure... My next car WILL probably BE an EV. MY problem is NOT with EVs, its the LACK of OPTIONS to what I wanna buy. I like Telsas. But I dont like Teslas at the same time. Im weary of giving them my money. For a myriad of reasons. My partner had got one. It has been a good ride for him, and he is thinking of getting another Tesla. Upgrading. But I dont wanna be part of the Tesla family. Many many reasons. Some trivial. Some because I dont agree with Elon's way of his vision of the future on some things... Mainly because I prefer the traditional car maker over Tesla. I LIKE the Mach E. Problem is...its an SUV. I will HOLD OFF ANY SUV ownership as LONG as I could. As long as there is a sedan or coupe available, Im buying THAT instead of a SUV The Chevy Bolt is too small. The Porsche Taycan is too expensive. The Volvo EVs are NOT worthy of my money for me to buy... Im waiting to see what VW and especially GM (and now Honda/Acura with their GM partnership) will bring. At worst case scenario regarding EVs in the next 3-4-5 years, the next car my family will own will be an EV, and we will have an ICE in the driveway, but NOT because we dont wanna go fully on EV, but because there is a lack of options. I will probably replace the Acura in the next 3-4-5years. We will see what is up when we do replace it.

Regarding the bike. Yeah...it IS a great idea. Thinking outside the box to find solutions to make it easier for ownership (and mobility). And when I say ownership, I dont mean EV bikes, or EV cars, or replacing manual bicycles in cities where the bicycle is in high use, or in cities where they promote bicycle usage more and more such as in Montreal, but to make over-all MOBILITY easier. In the summer, and when its not raining in Montreal, I could use this to go to work everyday.

I get what you are saying. I hear what you are saying. What Im about to post is NOT trying to change your mind on ANYTHING. My posting style to which Ill reply is NOT personal, but a generalized statement. But alls I hear is EXCUSES. Even if you take loooong trips. There are ways around owning two EVs in the family and no other vehicle. 1. Price aside of the very good EVs...mainly Teslas, the range of these NOW exceed 4-5 hours straight on a freeway on a full charge. 4-5 hours straight going 65MPH is 250- 300 miles. (even with the heater blasting or AC on high max) (Im exhausted just typing this as we've ALREADY been down this road before...and I KNOW what kind of excuse of a rebuttal is coming next) 2. One could just RENT a ICEV....renting is extremely CHEAP in the US. (Yeah...about that rebuttal...I KNOW what is coming next...) Bottom line: Aside from EVs being extremely high in price... (but not really as a reasonably priced Tesla Model 3, Model Y, Ford Mach E ...leaving the shytty EV charging debate behind us for a moment... is just a stone throw away from the AVERAGE price of new cars today...) Bottom bottom line: In 2020 and ESPECIALLY going forward in the SHORT term...EVs DO work and LITTLE compromises need to be made. The thing is...its if you are WILLING to take these LITTLE compromises. Change is hard. I get that. But Im tired of the same ole same ole tired excuses.

I read the article...about the Sondors Metacycle Cool product. But I dont want to talk about that. Two sentences in and this is what caught my brain... Im just leaving it at that. (Normally that tidbit of info is very banal, but in this thread...it speaks VOLUMES...)

Brrrrrrrr That is toooo cold for me. (right this very moment) Even just looking at that picture is making me shiver.

Sure you have seen something like that. Especially with your Italian heritage. Come on now, dig deep into your mind. Its there. You WILL see it. Here...Ill help you out a little bit. Give you a couple of clues. a) Rallye. b) It has a Greek name of the 4rth letter in the Greek alphabet. TA DA! Lancia Delta HF Integrale

Awesome! And then when I got to the end of the video and I saw Starlight Country Cabin 1832 and 1814, another song popped into my head. In 1814 we took a little trip along with colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip. We took a little bacon and we took a little beans and we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans.

Dirty Cash

I was pondering on that thought as to why vehicles have reached that high of a price. We cant blame EVs as like Balthy said, EVs are a very small piece of the pie. We also cant blame the switch to CUVs/SUVs over their sedan counterparts even though these types of vehicles are what the market demands. Why? Because there are PLENTY of CUVs and SUVs BELOW 40Gs that arent being bought. Or those that START below 40Gs end up crossing that line because people are opting for the top of the line versions. Or is it because automakers are pushing fully fully equipped vehicles down our throats? I dont think that is the case. Even with the new Corvette C8. People are NOT ordering the 59 000-65 000 dollar versions. I think I read somewhere that the ATP for the C8 is 80Gs. I honestly think its the consumer's demand for fully equipped vehicles that have pushed the prices to these heights. There are hardly any strippers (cars with no options rather than exotic dancers) that are available AT ANY niche. What is scary though, how long could this upward trend in prices continue?

Rouge

^^^ Ah. Gotcha! I was misunderstanding and reading too much into it.

vomit inducing nightmare

Finger Lickin' Good

Im confused. What does the state of NJ and blowing a shyte ton of money have to do with privately owned gasoline stations in NJ being 100% fully functional and operational 100% of the time? I get you with the blowing of tax payers money as Quebec is not a stranger to that, but other than a Quebec provincial inspection from time to time to see that Quebec gasoline station owners do NOT screw the consumer over and that the pumps and the pay meter are in sync, the government does not meddle. Gas taxes and displacement taxes not withstanding. But I gotta admit, gasoline pumps in Montreal are pretty darned reliable. I havent come across too many non-functional pumps. Maybe a dozen. At the most. Its not as if the other pumps werent functional or available at that very station anyway... But to harp on charging stations for EVs is kinda stretching it. If an owner of a charging station operates with shytty and faulty chargers, HE is the one that WILL lose money in the end. Its kinda like a monopoly now, I guess. But a business opportunity to own and operate a shyte ton of these in the near future is quite promising. And when there is competition...

I was being...SARCASTIC Making fun of you...blu

Demolition Derby

skating rink

Yeah...yet another crazy leftist agenda asshole trying to make us buy EVs...