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False. Cadillac thrived with that very image during the depression. So did Mercedes. You have a habit of discussing and comparing the most of extremes together. 3 richest Americans and all the oil barons dont give a shyte what happens to the world because in anyway, their products and services are the ones that keep the world going round anyway...WW3 or Covid 19. Its like you compre a 2 million dollar AMG-One and say its waaaaay lighter than a BASE 60 000 Corvette Stingray... Of course it SHOULD be lighter. I said above, the Corvette is engineered to a lower price point. Sacrifices have to be made somewhere. The AMG-One is a no expense spared engineered vehicle. Than you blame GM beancounting for this... Like WTF???!!! You cant expect GM to have a no expense spared Corvette to be sold for only 60 000 dollars... That would mean that the Corvette would have to be sold at 2 point something million dollars and limited to a 1 year limited run of 275 units. THAT is not the Corvette's business case. Nor is its image and target market. And the AMG-One is NOT expected to be cheapened for price point sake sold to the masses. The thing is, the Zora's mission IS to be an AMG-One PERFORMANCE competitor... AND THAT it will be... With the economy argument. Billions of dollars have been lost to Covid so far. Those billions lost have NOT BEEN pocketed by ANYBODY. Bezos and the other 2 richest Americans aside. And those oil baron sheiks, because oil has still been produced and made into gasoline and other products like plastics so they still make money, those billionaire sports clubs owners and other businesses have simply halted... NO MONEY BEING MADE. Let me put it this way. I own a restaurant. I cut my hours down considerably. But I also cut down on my staff considerably. Because I could stay open, I got a drive through, I was able to make money. The same amount actually. I had to work a tad harder, but my profits havent suffered. My sales went down a tad, but I matched that with cutting my expenses equally so that is how I have been able to keep my profits up. And... Im like Bezos in this regard. I got to continue to make money. But some of my workers, I had to lay off. McDonald's close to me also has stayed open. They too, hardly lost a beat. Likje Bezos.... OK...Amazon sales went up. But local brick and mortar stores hit a rougher patch, as now peoples thirst to consume is 100% done online.... But...rich hard working owners of other businesses in my neighborhood had to close down for 2 whole months with NO revenue coming in. McDonald's and myself are in the minority. The reality is that MOST businesses are NOT like me. Stop arguing with extreme situations...start discussing things more in line...

Jeff Bezos aside...because he owns a company that actually thrives in these times. But, If I just go with all the MLB, NHL, NBA and NFL owners, millionnaires and billionnaires, and airline industries, automotive companies, restaurants of all kinds other than the huge franchises .and all other similar situations in business where regular folk simply stopped consuming, these guys say they are suffering, even if they are lying so they dont pay their players (sports teams owners.).. if 95% of the population suffers and the 95% of the population dont consume the products and services these millionnaires and billionnaires offer and peddle, where does their money come from? If the 95% of the population suffers and dont consume, spend and invest in the stock market...trust me, these billionaires fast become millionaires if not poorer. The millionaires fast are worth just hundreds of thousands of dollars if not poorer. Folk that have hundreds of thousands of dollars risk of not having anything. Trust me, AMG cars and Ferraris and Rolls Royces are the ones to go bankrupt FASTER than Chevrolets Fords and Hondas... Leading up to the war, and in the Great Depression, the luxury marques such as Duesenberg and Cords disappeared rather than Chevy, Ford and Dodge.

These are mine. The 2021 TLX also peaks my interest. And the Mazda 6. Did I read that correctly? A RWD inline 6 Mazda 6 for 2023?

They are getting rid of the V8 in certain areas... Dont play stupid. Im afraid the SL will not even survive 2021 the way things are going let alone 2030. And yes, maybe with Covid generation economies, the C8 will eat into its market share.... Whether YOU like it or not, the C8 is that much of a game changer regardless if it is a Chevy or not... It a short little while, the 2021 Z06 will be available for owners to buy. OK...with this Covid era economy, the Z06 will be a 2022 model. The thing is, Chevrolet is going all out with the C8 Vette and the C8 vette itself is selling like hotcakes. With NEW market share that NEW consumers are buying into....regardless of a Chevy nameplate... And yes...4 cylinder outputs are out of this world. Its still prestigious to have a V8 under the hood. More so now than ever. Dont try to spin the failures of M-B in your favour... And...last bit NOT least AMG does NOT have lots of sized of vehicles. Mercedes has that. But if the economy goes even MORE south, AMG will NOT have ANY buyers as even the stinkin' rich will cut back with unnecessary purchases. And even THEY will be looking for bargains. EVERYBODY LOVES bargains. And like I said above, the C8 Corvette WILL quest their thirst for something new and shiny, that goes crazy fast and has "that look" that cars in this league demand...

Yes it is When the high performance versions of Corvettes first comes out, not the base ones, Vettes usually lead the pack only for Ferrari and Porsche to counter back.... Again...keeping in kind that the Corvette, even the high performance versions, still priced waaaaay below the others... We got a new level of sports car called the hypercar to contend with, that would be the AMG-One or Laferrari... but again, the Corvette has an answer to that... but it aint out yet. It will 3-4 years from now. But Ill just repost what I said above because you got deaf ears. Hypercars are at and above 1 million dollars. The AMG-One is 2 point something million dollars. The Zora Hybrid electric with close to 1000 HP will be at 150 000 dollars... Porsche 911 money... A Corvette is the COMPLETE opposite of what Cadillac, high end M-B, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Bentley, Rolls Royce etc is all about. All those high end, posh brands I mentioned all cater to the folk that want the finer things in life. That could afford the finer things in life. That want something unique and rare and that almost nobody else has got. All those high end brands in turn try to engineer and produce the best of the best to attract the very few that can afford those brand's products. The ONLY thing the Corvette has in common with that is, that the Corvette offers best of the best performance. And at a price. Low price. The high end stuff also comes at a price. High price. I repeat. The high end stuff is sold at high end prices. The Corvette is engineered to a price point. A price point well BENEATH of those high end stuff and sold well beneath those high end prices. Those high end products are also limited in numbers. Mostly produced by hand and perosnalized to every inch of the finer details. The Corvette is mass produced. Machines and robots for the most part produce it. Many IMPERFECTIONS exist on the Covette as where the other high end products, imperfections are hard to come by... because the owners of those cars PAY a PREMIUM and EXPECT perfection. Corvette's target market really dont care about any squeaks and rattles and if the steering wheel is the exact same one as a Chevy Malibu. (C6) Actually, they wear THAT as a badge of honour as MOST Corvette owners are proud that the Corvette is a CHEVROLET. And want to point the middle finger to the folks that drive high priced sports cars... The high end stuff is usually bespoke to that particualr model. The Corvette, BECAUSE its a CHEVROLET has parts bin economies built into it, so that the PRICE is low low low as low as can be because the performance technology is really best of the best... The high end stuff is really made for the those 1%ers. Those white gloved, snooty, entitled and cuddled folk that look down upon the working guy but NEED the working guy to maintain their riches... The Corvette is made for the blue collar guy. The very guy that works for that white gloved, snooty, entitled and cuddled folk that look down upon the working guy but NEED the working guy to maintain his riches... Or for the self made man that made his money getting his hands dirty. Because since the 1980s, new money has come to be, those lines are blurred between high end stuff and Corvettes with Ferraris and Lambos producing and selling lower priced cars, but higher, way higher than Corvette to cater to the guy that made millions on 4-5 restaurants he bought and managed with family and friends or in the .com era where those guys in the beginning were mere millionnaires and over time got to be billionnaires and now could buy that million dollar plus limited run Ferrari. Yeah...kinda like the AMG-ONE. The Corvette is a performance car that gives a middle finger to those types of cars and owners... Yes...THAT is why a Corvette was, is and will continue to BE a Chevrolet. Cadillac does not NEED a sports car to peddle to the new money folk or the old money folk. What Cadillac needs is a vehicle, that caters to the arrogance of those types of owners... And THAT could mean many things... And THAT is the beauty of Cadillac. Cadillac's image was and still is of brash, arrogantly loud styled vehicles. And THAT could be anything... And THAT is why Corvette is Corvette Chevrolet is Chevrolet Cadillac is Cadillac and Corvette shall always be a Chevrolet. With the C6 and then the C7, sure, people wanted MORE from the Corvette. NON-TRADITIONAL Corvette owners... That is why with the C8, time was right to go ME. Performance was at its limits with 750 HP front engine RWD... Actually, the C6 Corvette with 'only' 650 HP and 638 ft lbs torque was the limit with front engine RWD configuration. The C7 has all kinds of voodoo airflow technology and high tech tire engineering to keep the car stable and to squeeze the most performance out of it. With the C8, this ME config now gets to explore what Corvette engineers could do AND it also introduces the car to new target markets... but the Corvette STILL remains...my long ass rant as definition because you really have deaf ears... A Corvette is the COMPLETE opposite of what Cadillac, high end M-B, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Bentley, Rolls Royce etc is all about. All those high end, posh brands I mentioned all cater to the folk that want the finer things in life. That could afford the finer things in life. That want something unique and rare and that almost nobody else has got. All those high end brands in turn try to engineer and produce the best of the best to attract the very few that can afford those brand's products. The ONLY thing the Corvette has in common with that is, that the Corvette offers best of the best performance. And at a price. Low price. The high end stuff also comes at a price. High price. I repeat. The high end stuff is sold at high end prices. The Corvette is engineered to a price point. A price point well BENEATH of those high end stuff and sold well beneath those high end prices. Those high end products are also limited in numbers. Mostly produced by hand and perosnalized to every inch of the finer details. The Corvette is mass produced. Machines and robots for the most part produce it. Many IMPERFECTIONS exist on the Covette as where the other high end products, imperfections are hard to come by... because the owners of those cars PAY a PREMIUM and EXPECT perfection. Corvette's target market really dont care about any squeaks and rattles and if the steering wheel is the exact same one as a Chevy Malibu. (C6) Actually, they wear THAT as a badge of honour as MOST Corvette owners are proud that the Corvette is a CHEVROLET. And want to point the middle finger to the folks that drive high priced sports cars... The high end stuff is usually bespoke to that particualr model. The Corvette, BECAUSE its a CHEVROLET has parts bin economies built into it, so that the PRICE is low low low as low as can be because the performance technology is really best of the best... The high end stuff is really made for the those 1%ers. Those white gloved, snooty, entitled and cuddled folk that look down upon the working guy but NEED the working guy to maintain their riches... The Corvette is made for the blue collar guy. The very guy that works for that white gloved, snooty, entitled and cuddled folk that look down upon the working guy but NEED the working guy to maintain his riches... Or for the self made man that made his money getting his hands dirty. Because since the 1980s, new money has come to be, those lines are blurred between high end stuff and Corvettes with Ferraris and Lambos producing and selling lower priced cars, but higher, way higher than Corvette to cater to the guy that made millions on 4-5 restaurants he bought and managed with family and friends or in the .com era where those guys in the beginning were mere millionnaires and over time got to be billionnaires and now could buy that million dollar plus limited run Ferrari. Yeah...kinda like the AMG-ONE. The Corvette is a performance car that gives a middle finger to those types of cars and owners... Yes...THAT is why a Corvette was, is and will continue to BE a Chevrolet. Cadillac does not NEED a sports car to peddle to the new money folk or the old money folk. What Cadillac needs is a vehicle, that caters to the arrogance of those types of owners... And THAT could mean many things... And THAT is the beauty of Cadillac. Cadillac's image was and still is of brash, arrogantly loud styled vehicles. And THAT could be anything... And THAT is why Corvette is Corvette Chevrolet is Chevrolet Cadillac is Cadillac and Corvette shall always be a Chevrolet. It be a money loser for Cadillac to do a supercar/hypercar based on a Vette or bespoke like a Cien concept.. Whether YOU like it or not, the Corvette is best of the best. No matter WHAT price point we are talking about. BECAUSE it is engineered to a low price point, the Vette engineers sacrifice some stuff on it. But...with the C8 we see that some of those constraints have been loosened... Honestly, Id love to see Corvette engineers do to a Corvette program with a budget that AMG-One had with AMG engineers. Ill say it again, the Zora Hybrid C8 to come will EQUAL if NOT surpass what the AMG-ONE will do... And even if...EVEN IF it does not and just misses the mark just a tad, which it might, Ill admit...remember...AMG-ONE is 2 point something million dollars. The Zora will be at 150 000 dollars... A FRACTION of that price tag. WITH TTHE SAME TECHNOLOGY. Maybe a tad less use of exotic weight saving materials materials on the outside and maybe a tad less extravagant materials on the inside to cuddle the owner... BIG DEAL like I said...A CORVETTE IS A HUGE MIDDLE FINGER TO POSH, SNOOTY BITCHES THAT LOOK DOWN ON THE VETTE!!! Sure... Like I said...THAT could mean ANYTHING. It COULD be a Cien. But really no. Its more of a Sixteen, Ciel, Elmiraj or some sort of wacky, more arrogant type of SUV that even outdoes the Escalade. Or the Escalade itself 'escalated' to a higher level... with cigar humidor interiors and whiskey holding cabinets and PHOQUE YOU IM A RICH AS$&HOL3 written all over the exterior design.

A Corvette is the COMPLETE opposite of what Cadillac, high end M-B, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Bentley, Rolls Royce etc is all about. All those high end, posh brands I mentioned all cater to the folk that want the finer things in life. That could afford the finer things in life. That want something unique and rare and that almost nobody else has got. All those high end brands in turn try to engineer and produce the best of the best to attract the very few that can afford those brand's products. The ONLY thing the Corvette has in common with that is, that the Corvette offers best of the best performance. And at a price. Low price. The high end stuff also comes at a price. High price. I repeat. The high end stuff is sold at high end prices. The Corvette is engineered to a price point. A price point well BENEATH of those high end stuff and sold well beneath those high end prices. Those high end products are also limited in numbers. Mostly produced by hand and perosnalized to every inch of the finer details. The Corvette is mass produced. Machines and robots for the most part produce it. Many IMPERFECTIONS exist on the Covette as where the other high end products, imperfections are hard to come by... because the owners of those cars PAY a PREMIUM and EXPECT perfection. Corvette's target market really dont care about any squeaks and rattles and if the steering wheel is the exact same one as a Chevy Malibu. (C6) Actually, they wear THAT as a badge of honour as MOST Corvette owners are proud that the Corvette is a CHEVROLET. And want to point the middle finger to the folks that drive high priced sports cars... The high end stuff is usually bespoke to that particualr model. The Corvette, BECAUSE its a CHEVROLET has parts bin economies built into it, so that the PRICE is low low low as low as can be because the performance technology is really best of the best... The high end stuff is really made for the those 1%ers. Those white gloved, snooty, entitled and cuddled folk that look down upon the working guy but NEED the working guy to maintain their riches... The Corvette is made for the blue collar guy. The very guy that works for that white gloved, snooty, entitled and cuddled folk that look down upon the working guy but NEED the working guy to maintain his riches... Or for the self made man that made his money getting his hands dirty. Because since the 1980s, new money has come to be, those lines are blurred between high end stuff and Corvettes with Ferraris and Lambos producing and selling lower priced cars, but higher, way higher than Corvette to cater to the guy that made millions on 4-5 restaurants he bought and managed with family and friends or in the .com era where those guys in the beginning were mere millionnaires and over time got to be billionnaires and now could buy that million dollar plus limited run Ferrari. Yeah...kinda like the AMG-ONE. The Corvette is a performance car that gives a middle finger to those types of cars and owners... Yes...THAT is why a Corvette was, is and will continue to BE a Chevrolet. Cadillac does not NEED a sports car to peddle to the new money folk or the old money folk. What Cadillac needs is a vehicle, that caters to the arrogance of those types of owners... And THAT could mean many things... And THAT is the beauty of Cadillac. Cadillac's image was and still is of brash, arrogantly loud styled vehicles. And THAT could be anything... And THAT is why Corvette is Corvette Chevrolet is Chevrolet Cadillac is Cadillac and Corvette shall always be a Chevrolet.

Stop the idiocy dude. THE XLR WAS ON A C6 LIGHT PLATFORM... AND IT DONT MATTER... STOP PHOQUING TROLLING!!! THE POINT IS... CADILLAC IS CADILLAC CHEVROLET IS CHEVROLET CORVETTE IS CORVETTE IT DONT PHOQUING MATTER WHERE CORVETTE FITS IN THE GENERAL MOTORS HIERARCHY CORVETTE IS A CHEVROLET CADILLAC DOES NOT NEED A CORVETTE, SLS, AMG-ONE, 812 SUPERFAST, COUNTACH, COMPETITIOR AND EVENTUAL PERFORMANCE DOMINATOR ORIENTED CAR IN THIS REALM TO SELL VEHICLES MERCEDES BENZ NEEDS THAT...FOR THEIR HIGHER END CARS TO HELP SELL THEIR LOWER END CARS ALL CADILLAC NEEDS IS TO BE ITSELF. STOP THE STUPIDITY

WRONG Chevy got the C6 a WHOLE YEAR LATER... And yes, the Corvette is faster. It will ALWAYS be faster. Its FASTER than Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches all costing double and triple the price... And the Corvette will ALWAYS BE a Chevrolet. The Corvette is NOT GM's or Cadillac's halo car. Its Chevrolet's. Cadillac is NOT a PERFORMANCE brand. Well...NOW it is. Using the CHEVROLET SMALL BLOCK. Its NOT a negative. It just is the way that it is. And Cadillac DOES sell. Cadillac sells just about MORE LUXURY vehicles than Mercedes sells LUXURY vehicles... Ive done this exercise with you before... Mercedes is a full blown, complete line maker of automobiles. Mercedes sells just as MANY Chevrolet level autos as Chevy does... Same market niches too. Its just that Mercedes is the COMPLETE brand. Chevrolet is a brand Cadillac is a brand General Motors is NOT a brand. Its just a multinational corporation OWNING SEVERAL AUTOMOTIVE brands... DAIMLER AG is somewhat that GM equivalent... The thing is, Mercedes the BRAND plays in the econobox market as well as the luxury market under the SAME BRAND Chevrolet and Cadillac are NOT the same brand. NOT the same MOTOR company...

AMG is JUST a tuner devision... In fact, AMG wasnt even RELATED to Mercedes Benz at one time. M-B bought out the company. AMG was just a slightly more than a tuner shop hot rodding not only Mercedes cars, but BMWs too... AMG now, is just the performance arm of Mercedes taking EXISTING Mercedes vehicles and adding more performance to them . AMG does NOT build its own vehicles. Only rare occasions they do. Like the AMG-One. But the AMG-One is just a 275 limited production run. Chevrolet is a full blown, complete line of production vehicles ranging from civilian use to police force to comercial line to racing cars and engines. Cadillac is also a full blown, complete line of production vehicles. Both Chevrolet and Cadillac are mass produced vehicles under a LARGER owned corporation called General Motors. NOT THE SAME THING as the relationship that Mercedes has with AMG... If "SS" was a tuner hot rodding shop, that produced hotter versions of Malibus, Chevelles, Impalas, Camaros, Cruzes, Trailblazers, etc and Chevrolet would have bought them and "SS" would continue to build better performing Chevroler vehicles UNDER the Chevrolet brand and NOT General Motors...THAN we'd have an apples to apple comparison. The closest we ever got to a Mercedes and AMG relationship with GM is with a tuner shop called SLP that did better performing G3 Firebirds, than G4 Firebirds/Trans Ams, then G4 Camaros with the Trans Ams that were bought straight from the dealerships and were sold as Trans Am WS6 and Camaro SS and then Grand Prixs and G8s... But GM NEVER bought SLP...

Not any more... Didnt I hear that AMG S Class coupe and conertible will nix V8s for TTV6s? And FYI The XLR was on a updated C5 chassis that was closer to the C6. But only YOU will find that as a negative. The C5 platform is STILL competitive performance wise in 2020 with TODAY's sports cars when HP is upgraded with suspension and brake tune-ups to match the HP... Being on a PURE C5 platform (which it wasnt anyway, was NOT a negative) It REALLY was on a updated C5, not quite full blown C6 platform. If you knew...the C5, C6 AND C7 are really really closely related to each other anyway...

I googled at got a more recent update. April 2, 2020 to be exact. So Ill retract my previous statement about it being scutlled. One cool thing is the 275 owners will get a scale version of probably their own car.

I googled at got a more recent update. April 2, 2020 to be exact. So Ill retract my previous statement about it being scutlled. One cool thing is the 275 owners will get a scale version of probably their own car.

Like @frogger said about Montreal, I once rode the NYC subway, at midnight on a Saturday night in 1992 or 1993 and I did not see anything worth reporting. I felt safe. But then again, I was with 3 Greek Montreal boys (my Montreal firends) and 2 NYC Greek boys with 2 huge body building NYC black boys (our NYC friends). (The American Greek boys are/were our friends that we met in Greece over the years while we both visit Greece on vacation and met there, our parents come from the same viillage...and the black boys are/were the NYC Greek boys' friends from NYC...) Maybe being such a big gang had something to do with it and ironically, we might have been viewed as trouble as we were loud and obnoxious... LOL Obnoxiously funny in [our minds] just cracking stupid jokes amongst ourselves and laughing...not causing trouble...just laughing and having a good time and enjoying our company together...in public...

Thanx for the info. I havent used the Montreal Metro since the mid-1990s. I think I rode it once in 2002 or 2003. Honestly, I may have over exaggerated, but its what I hear with the students that work for me and the local news that report over the last few years that I posted with. Like you said, like any big city, the crazies come out to play in these types of places. Especially an underground public dwelling like a subway system. Montreal, for the most part remains pretty safe, and its Metro system just compliments that. Montreal hasnt really become more crime ridden over the years. The Metro system has however, but minute and when crime in Montreal goes up a tad, because crime in Montreal is relatively low, we Montrealers tend to over exaggerate it. And I would agree with you fully on what you have said in your post though!!! At night, Montreal was always a tad seedier than in the daytime, but that is such a "duh" statement. Yes, Montreal at night, one needs to keep his/hers eyes open for trouble, but Montreal remains very safe.

Im liking the 2021 TLX. Interior and exterior. And with a TT 3.0 V6, I might have a canditate to replace my 2012 eventually. Again, depending what other cars are available in 2023-2024-2025 because Im kinda thinking about NOT spending money needlessly... I wasnt gonna change my TL anytime soon anyway, but Covid reinforced that mindset. I could FINALLY say that a recent new car has peaked my interest again. And Im hoping that Acura will keep producing the 2021 TLX until Im ready to part ways with my 2012 TL in another 3 years or so. That will make this new gen TLX 3 years old. I dont think Acura will cancel it due to low sales... (Covid economy, CUV/SUV sales reality, etc) Hope not. There is nothing else out there in 2020 that I want to own. Maybe a Cadillac CT5, but it doesnt hit the right buttons within the price range that I want to be in. A CT5 V or Blackwing is where its at with me, and THAT is too much money for me to spend on a car.

I forgot to mention. Porsche is out of IMSA after 2020 due to money issues that Covid has brought to us all. https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/04/porsche-911-rsr-quits-american-racing-after-2020/ If @smk4565 thinks that all is well in the automotive world for his dear Mercedes. He has a rude awaking heading his way. Say goodbye to the AMG-One project... Im targeting SMK and the AMG-One project because he seems to only target GM but when something similar happens to Mercedes, he doesnt return the favour... parts bin economics might be the ONLY thing to save automotive projects right about now... The AMG-One is all bespoke. Expensive stuff going into it...and with diesel scandals that Mercedes needs to pay and 1%ers NOT making the millions/billions projected for this year, the AMG-One is a project that is very not the right product in today's climate and will be scuttled if not already...BEFORE the Covid thing happened... And THAT is the thing... Through all kinds of difficult times that the American economy has gone through over the years and tough times GM has gone through over the years, with all the near cancellations of the Corvette program over the years, Corvette is STILL here and THRIVING and making money for Chevrolet for the greater part since 1953 and all the while, being cutting edge technology AND being a performance leader in the civilian market AND in the racing world... Like I ALWAYS say. You could shyte on GM all you want, there are one-two things that GM ALWAYS gets right, and the Corvette is one of them. You CANT and SHOUDNT shyte on Corvette.

I rode on it twice. Once on my honeymoon in 2003 and the other time was 2 years ago. That would be two times more than on Montreal's subway system in that same timeframe. ( Which is the same system as we both use France's system) Montreal's subway network is quite safe as compared to other places in the world, but Ive heard that its not as safe as it once was. From the late 1960s all the way to the late 1990s it was a dream riding on it. Since the turn of the new millennium, Montreal's subway has also become a crime "not quite infested" but not far off experience. Maybe Im exaggerating for Montreal, but its definetely more seedy than it ever was.

I dont drink shytty Canadian beer. I drink beer fit for a king. The King of Beers. And this. I must say. This rendering of a C8 Cadillac is great. The other one, from Motor1, looks a lot like an XLR. That too is great, but it does not look like it could be from a C8 platform. Im on the fence with a pure Cadillac engine in a possible ME supercar based on the C8. Although a Blackwing V8 would be awesome in it, Ill question it anyway. Dont get me wrong, I want to see a Blackwing C8 based supercar from Cadillac!!! Aside that Cadillac needs other product before this. But I digress... 1. Like you stated above, Cadillac tried a Cadillac engine in the C51/2 (or C6 light) platform XLR and it did not fare too well in the market place. There are other factors why it failed in the marketplace (an interior not worthy of a Cadillac) but I digress. The Northstar was not a sports car engine. I dont think the Blackwing is a sportscar engine either. I guess the Corvette engineers and Cadillac engineers could re-tune the Blackwing into one, I dont think the Blackwing was engineered from the get go to be one, like how the SBC is. 2. Lets face it. A Chevy Small Block V8 is just about the best V8 in the marketplace....and since the 1990s...EASILY. A Northstar or even a Blackwing doesnt stand a chance against it. Although 550 or so HP is a good starting point for a BASE Cadillac new XLR, and it upstages the base C8 by quite a bit, but when the other Corvette versions come out, the Blackwing does not stand a chance. And lets be honest here, a Z06 or ZR1 will have base XLR price tags, and THAT will make the XLR fail in the market place...again. Like I said, a Chevy Small Block V8 is just about the BEST V8 in the world today...and quite possibly ever... and I dont car if I just pissed off Olds Rocket 88 lovers or Buick big block lovers or Ford lovers or Mercedes lovers... 3. The Cien had it right. A V12 engine was the way to go in a ME Cadillac supercar. It lends itself AWAY from Chevy Small Block Chevy V8 comparisons. In hindsight, maybe for a C51/2 (or C6 light) platformed XLR might have been better off if Cadillac would have invested the V12 for it. Today, for a C8 platformed XLR, maybe a V12 is the wrong engine choice, so Id go full on electric motor to compete with the Tesla roadster 2.0 rather than have an internal combustion engine in it and make it compete with the Corvette needlessly....because we all know, THAT comparison WILL be made. And unfortunetly for the possible XLR, it will be a losing battle.

suppression perhaps? In any way, supression leads to oppression. Anyway...enough of that. Please link me the Cadillac C8...

And yes...back to cars... I clicked on the Cadillac C8 link but I got an error... PS: I love you guys... I mean, all you folk at C&G and Americans in general! It pains me to see the US this way! That is why I pour my heart out. I dont mean what I say in disrespect. Im just voicing my concern. Im sharing MY point of view with you. Im opening up to you guys. Yes. Its direct. But its as passionate as it comes. because it comes from my heart. It may seem short sighted to some. But that is OK. Its necessary and healthy to share differing opinions.

The singing of the national anthem both Canadian and American at sports games is long past their time.... There is a very hypocritical stance when you take this stance: American and Canadian Veterans fought and died during WW1 and WW2 to preserve OUR rights and freedoms. ( I aint gonna include Viet Nam and Korea and all other wars other than WW1 and WW2 because both our nations involved with the other wars may or may not be in the right...which opens other can of worms...actually, even WW2 is not so cut and dry about who was wrong and who was right and who were the opressors...but I digress) Ill repeat...American and Canadian Veterans fought and died during WW1 and WW2 to preserve OUR rights and freedoms. And the right to protest, how to protest (peacefully even if kneeling during a national anthem AT AT SPORTING EVENT )and where to protest has been fought by these very veterans... Because we HAVE that right and freedom to do so... When we start imposing rules of when and when not to...protest...then we are not as free as we say we are...and we oppress...right? You cant have it both ways... Yes...I know...Kaepernick refused to sign the deal that he was initinally offered and gambled on free agency...and THAT is why he wasnt signed on and lost his job... All that is noise...including the so called disrespecting of the flag... From the get go...Kaepernick was vocal about the kneeling and what that meant. To make people acknowledge that there is a problem with law enforcement in the US. And that black people lose their lives at the hands of the police... Anything else is disengenous.... The "correct" (and popular) narrative 3 weeks ago was that kneeling was disrespectful to the flag and the country. Today, the "correct" (and popular) narrative is that the kneeling in protest during an anthem is to voice and acknowledge that their is a racial problem in the US. I think this statement by J.F.K. 50 or so years ago has been taken seriously... At the end of the day...kneeling during the anthem during a sports game is peaceful revolution afterall...a right and freedom that was granted to us by the thousands that died fighting to maintain our rights and freedoms... A football game TODAY and for the last 40-50-60 -70 years between Dallas and Philadelphia or a baseball game between Toronto and Boston or a or a basketball game between Charlotte and New Orleans or a hockey game between Los Angeles and San Jose has NOTHING to do anymore about national pride during a world war crisis... Dont give me this BS, man. TV stations dont even play the national anthems when they sign off anymore...because they dont sign off anymore... Baseball and hockey players SPIT during the national anthems... All 4 major sports leagues in North America, most of the time, the fans, players, owners, fidget, eat, piss, arrive late and try tio sit in their seats, talk, make-out during the national anthems... so please, dont BS me about national anthems during NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB games... You know what is disrespectful during the national anthems at a North American sporting event?....when a fan base of one country, boos the national anthem of another country when its playing. And both Amercans and Canadians of different cities are guilty if this. Montrealers once booed the American anthem some 20 years ago when Bush Jr. had his Persian Gulf War....

I did not know if I wanted to lend my opinion on that topic. For several reasons myself. 1. Supposed no political talk in these forums. 2. not to alienate anybody and starting a ruckus. But then I said... screw it. I am so mad at what is going on with everything. Im mad at corrupt cops. Im mad at stupid, uneducated poor folk that commit crimes, (any race), put themselves and others in danger while commiting their petty crimes (because often its petty crimes), resisiting arrest and then not owning up to their crimes. (Im mad at white collar crimes too made by very very rich folk, maybe madder, but that is for another discussion at a later time) Im mad, twice, at corrupt cops for taking said situation above and using that as an excuse to commit their own crimes against humanity. Im mad at the commmuties that tolerate this never ending cycle of crime on the street and then blaming everybody but themselves for it. And THAT includes the black community for always using race as an excuse. But THAT also includes the white community that ignores the RACIAL biases we (because Im white) have towards blacks and which also includes the police communities for turning a blind eye to their rotten apples and THAT also includes blacks and whites together for continuing to fuel both of our racial tensions that still exist. Boy, this Covid thing and now the death of a black man at the hands of the police have really united the world like never before... At least that is a shimmer of bright light going forward. Because 2020 has been a really shytty year otherwise.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/buffalo-cops-video-plead-not-guilty-pushing-man-75 Just wanting to make sure you were aware of what legalities were available to that frail old body where he had no business being at.

No. You cannot do that. 100% agree with you. Absolutely true. No you cannot let people run any city down. 100% correct there also. Yes. EXACTLY! And not only a right for Americans only. For EVERYBODY! But there comes a time when protesting does become...less than friendly...for the GREATER GOOD of the party that NEEDS ITS VOICE HEARD because otherwise.... Ive got 2 examples. And one that includes the start of the birth of YOUR country... 1. Boston Massacre where "unruly" colonists frustrated by British soldiers in the streets flung snowballs at the redcoats and and the redcoats in turn opened fire at the mob killing 5... Then the Boston Tea Party happened a couple of years later and then...well...its in the history books. 2. The French Revolution with all the "let them eat cake" stuff... Now...in THIS situation...looters and anifa shyte and all that...well, Ill agree with you, peaceful protesters protesting the death of George Floyd is one thing, looters and shyte distubers is another. That 75 year old man that was pushed by that cop... I hope we can agree that that old man had a RIGHT to protest... And I hope we could agree that that 75 year old WHITE man was NOT a threat and was NOT a looter... Shame on that cop for pushing him down. I dont know all the details, but If I was that man's son, Id find out who that cop was and he would have a helluva time with ME!!! Legally or...ilegally... About the bad cops comment.... Yes there a few bad apples. But Ill tell you one thing: There a few professions that 1 bad apple is 1 too many... Doctors. Commercial airline pilots. Teachers. Judges and police officers. There SHOULDNT BE any bad apples in these professions... Yes it happens. With cops. It has gone FAR TOO LONG! How did we get there? Notice the whole world is protesting. Im sure in London England, Paris France, Montreal and Toronto Canada are all with George Floyd, protesting for all black people in the US, but Im pretty sure they are also voicing their protests concerning THEIR VERY OWN police forces... I know in Montreal, we are voicing our concerns over our own racist incidents with our cops... One bad cop and it rots a whole lot of them. Notice that the guy that murdered George Floyd had 3 or 4 other cops just looking at him suffocating George and they did nothing to stop him from murdering him... One cop allegedly tried to say something along the line that he cant do that, but his voice was not loud enough and strong enough and was completely ignored... Colin Kaepernick's kneeling was DISMISSED and IMMEDIALTELY called an act of disrespecting the flag... WTF???!!! And this is why we are here today, in the middle of a pandemic, with yet another murdered human (black or not) at the hands of a cop. A cop is NOT judge, jury and executioner. A cop does NOT render justice to the would be criminal. A cop just brings the would be criminal to justice... Outside of the cop defending his life trying to bring a would be criminal to justice...I think we could all agree that George Floyd was NOT a threat to that cop's life... A for a lousy counterfeit 20 dollar bill, George Floyd lost his life for it. Again, the streets can be a jungle sometimes and cops have that right to NOT to die protecting us all from the thugs of the mean streets...but... There is a problem in the US. And if somebody tells me that white folk die just as much as black folk at the hands of the police just to dismiss the racial discrimiantion black folk face....Ill just repeat what I said above: A cop is NOT judge, jury and executioner. A cop does NOT render justice to the would be criminal. A cop just brings the would be criminal to justice... And if white folk die just as many black folk die at the hands of the police, then the problem that the US faces is actually WORSE than it is...and we shouldnt dismiss it casually just because we want to supress the black folk. Look at the NFL's response now with Colin Kaepernick's kneeling... How the phoque did THAT take a 180 degree turn? Yeah...because THERE IS a racial problem in the US... And if the Black folk want to protest for their voices to be heard...I think we should let them protest!!!] That is a two-way thing. We dont let suppressed people voice their opinion, then they WILL revolt with violence. July 4rth 1776 is an example. (no taxation without representation...) If we let looters and shyte disturbers run free, violence is almost always the end result... And let us not forget If people in power forget this, the people will fight back...and then that spells the end for the country...