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My daddy had a '79 Impala coupe. OK, not a station wagon. But a "downsized" 1977-1990 B-Body family platform nonetheless. I bought a 1985 Delta 88 sedan in the mid 1990s... OK, not a Pontiac Catalina Safari but a "downsized" 1977-1990 B Body family platform nonetheless. My favorite B-Body from that generation would be the 1987-1990 Caprice Classic Brougham I love the front end. I love the taillights. The roof. The bumpers front and rear are sealed where it meets the body. I love the sealed headlights. Very classy car. And then it would be the 1979 Impala and Caprice coupe. The small wrap-around rear window just melts my heart.

Ill agree to that sentiment that Porsche is doing just fine...and that people dont tend to overanalyze...to a point. I read an article not too long ago that Porsche's marketing department is concerned with their current image. Many new and recent Porsche owners arent really connecting to or relating to the 911 or the supercars Porsche makes. In other words, Porsche is worried that they are fast becoming just another automobile company making just another CUV or sedan... And the performance part and/or enthusiasm part of what made Porsche performance cars legendary is not exactly on top of new Porsche or would be Porsche car buyer's minds. And hence the Jason Bourne/Fast and Furious/The Italian Job Superbowl commercial this past February. It was to try to rekindle that special Porsche performance magic... In other words... When did Porsche have to remind us car guys that Porsche has made some of the world's most thrilling cars? Answer: Since they build not one, not two, but three, tall, heavy, SUVs that are the exact opposite of what the original air cooled 911 was... Not to mention the heavy AF sedan they got and the even heavier EV they are just beginning to peddle... Back to Tesla... A carefully crafted image that becomes accepted in the car community and has carved up itself a decent market and niche is easily shaken up with the peddling of the wrong product. Oh sure, the wrong product could and would be WILDLY successful, but it could and would be a detriment to the image of the company sometime in the future and that could and would cause irreparable damage to the name sake....and good luck in getting that image back...and then eventually, sales... Look at Cadillac. Look at Pontiac Heck...look at Porsche.

Amalfi Coast...never been. Ive been to Santorini. Very comparable as both civilzations are built INTO the mountain side... How does the Italian government BEGIN to demolish the mountain to build bigger roads to accommodate American cars? And then...does the government destroy what is already built there for 1998 Dodge Ram dulies? Maybe my sarcasm filter is on the fritz, but...yeah... I dont think so Tim! And then I see it has already been covered...

I disagree BIG TIME!!! For many reasons. And its not so much about "saving every little thing" but as much as "how the phoque are we gonna rebuild the infrastructure with soooooo many houses and business cramped into such a little space?" And THAT is only for a few yards squared. Multiply that by a block or two, on one street, and then duplicate that on another street and you'll get what Im talking about. If not, Ill explain further. In other words, a few thousand miles of houses and businesses need to be destroyed to make room for bigger roads...and where do these houses and businesses go? Its not as if Italy or Greece has wide open spaces like Canada or the US has. In other words, every square inch in Italy and in Greece is accounted for. And with literally THOUSANDS of years of development on every square inch in those countries, there isnt much room for huge American style cars. Remember, Italy and Greece were built with human hands and legs and were helped with horses and donkeys. Unlike in North America where the majority of its cities were created with the help of the railroad and the gasoline powered automobile... Montreal and Quebec City... You could see the difference with these two North American cities. They were founded and built like old world Europe. And things are tight for the automobile in the old parts. But as both cities grew with time and became modern with the modern times, the cities were built with the automobile in mind. Yet...because these cities are still kind of old world, both Quebec city and Montreal have not very wide streets as compared to say...Los Angeles or Las Vegas. Athens...Rome... When it comes to North America's oldest cities, Montreal, Quebec City, Boston, New York, Philadelphia...are still babies in human terms.

Tesla is in a pickle marketing wise... They have branded themselves as performance oriented EVs. But with the Model Y, the target market Tesla wants and NEEDS to survive with couldnt care less about perfornce. So what does Elon gotta do? Sell the Model Y as a performance EV where 99% of the peeps buying THIS particular EV dont care, and risk losing them to other brands like Chevy when Chevy brings out their non-performance CUV EV or... Market this Model Y like how the core market of this particular EV will be like, which should technically be as a family hauler and grocery getter, and risk tarnishing the Tesla performance branded and oriented EV company they have successfully done so far ?

Ive seen this video a while ago. On this site. I dont remember if @NINETY EIGHT REGENCY posted it or If I might have posted this myself. But yeah. They arent talking about the Oldsmobile. They are talking about the Cobra beside it. What year it is, etc... On a side note... Is anybody else watching movies from the 1980s or 1990s or today even, before this Covid thing and are astonished on how close we were to each other and are cringing at the lack of social distancing and at the same time wishing this nightmare would end sometime soon? I know I am and *SIGH* Im missing the good ole days... (which was not that very long ago....) (but it seems like it was an eternity)

Arizona

Tina Turner! Because she's got LEGS and she KNOWS how to use them!

Imma gonna do some American pop culture references to Hazzard and Kentucky as only a Greek boy from French territory Canada would know about a certain Hazzard County and the beautiful state of Kentucky. Blue Moon of Kentucky keep on shining... And of course, Hazzard County. This particular Hazzard is of course, fictional... I do realize that Hazard, KY is spelled with one "z" and is of course, a real place. Oh...and I happen to love the tune, Red River Valley.

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list price 19 900. 115 000 miles. Bored 350 to 355. I wouldnt touch a thing about it. Love those Cragars. And T-tops! ? If anything, if the underneath has hidden problems, Id sell one or two of the other dream cars in my list to proper restore this beauty! https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1980/chevrolet/camaro/101122563 1990 Corvette ZR1 for 19 995? Shyte, Ill buy it and have it my affordable dream garage. And if its a legit ZR1, this one might be appreciating in value... https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1351882/1990-chevrolet-corvette-for-sale-in-elkhart-indiana-46514 I went on several used car sites for the entire US and I found that a Pontiac G8 GT had a wide range of prices from 9 000 to 23 000. I could find a nice one for close to but under 20 000 easily. A GXP or Chevy SS are all over 25 000. They seem to be closer to and above 30 000. So a Pontiac G8 GT will happily do! 11 900 for a 1972 Cultass 2 door hard top. I think that is a cool buy. It does have a 455 in it. Rebuilt it says! https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/oldsmobile/cutlass/2073015.html I was looking at Fiat 124s for sale. I found out that for 2017, I could get a nice used Abarth for close to and under 20 000. And Id be keeping the Pontiac G8 GT if I were only to have just one. If I had to sell one car so I could restore that 1980 Camaro, Id sell the Fiat.

There is a BIG difference between Cadillac hearses and ambulances and Mercedes E Class taxis... Why E Class sedans are NOT luxury is BECAUSE the E Class car is made into a taxi FROM the factory... In Cadillac's case, Cadillac just supplied the rolling chassis to independant coachbuilders and they completed the fitment of their bodywork and interiors and the final assembly. What all this means is that the E Class, FROM THE FACTORY is built, produced with SPARTAN, UTILITARIAN interiors...and sold to liveries. The Cadillac hearses and ambulances were created by outside independent companies. Interiors and bodywork and assembly... Cadillac just supplied the rolling chassis and the dashboard. Now... Im giving a tongue and cheek response and opinion to all this E Class talk of it not being a luxury car. JUST to prove a point with another point of view that was given a month or two ago. Plus to troll a certain resident poster that has blinders on. This post here is just to set the facts. Cadillac did not build ambulances and hearses. They just supplied the chassis. And why Lincolns and Cadillacs were and are still hearses along with Mercedes Benzes? Because your final ride should be made with class. And what better final ride of your time on earth to be made than with a finest of all automobiles? A Lincoln or Cadillac in North America and in Europe, I would imagine that to be a Mercedes.

Twilight Zone (and there is a double meaning with it)

@dfelt The Cybertruck on top. Elon Musk's Family Truckster... The very movie starts with that dialogue... The song at the beginning, the dealership and the ending song from the movie. OK. I decided to use the European Vacation end song. The smoking weed pic is to simulate how hippy-ish-ly stupid he is and the naming of his child: X Æ A-12 Its satire, but if one has to explain the joke...apparently it aint that funny...

Elon Musk X Æ A-12 Elon Musk Ed X Æ A-12:

1890 Henri Morgan colonial home Rue Ste Catherine Ouest Montreal 1913 Morgan Department Store 1923 Today ...since 1972, The Hudson's Bay Company Department Store

And... https://www.automobilemag.com/news/porsche-corvette-racing-withdraw-24-hours-le-mans/

We've stated this ad nauseum. And it really proves nothing. And more name changes are to come. The EVs at Cadillac will have proper names. The Escalade shal;; remain Escalade. The 2 steps forward 3 steps back at Cadillac is real. Fair enough. But, most of what you post is fiction loosely based on facts. Mostly outdated opinions you still hold... Mostly irrelevant and trivial nonsense you hold against GM but dont hold the same standards for Mercedes. You give a pass to Mercedes.

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That above...about Cadillac...is not correct. The Catera is the car that started the RWD sports sedan entry for Cadillac. That was waaaay back in 1997. Johan was at Audi then. The Catera was roughly the size of a 1st gen CTS and 2nd gen CTS. The Catera would be the failed predecessor of the CTS. From the get go, the Catera was going to be the BMW 3 Series (4 door) rival. It was considerably bigger than the E36 Bimmer. Then Cadillac did the Arts and Science thing and decided to go to a more precise way to do a BMW 3 Series rival sedan. Changed the name to CTS. Cadillac at this time also wanted to do away with FWD sedans and changed their FWD Seville Touring Sedan and Seville Luxury Sedan (STS and SLS for short...and minor differences mainly 25 HP and 5 ft/lbs less for the SLS versus the STS amongst other trivial things) to a RWD STS. It was a couple of years now that Seville was retired to STS and SLS but with the RWD version, only STS was the nameplate. The STS was a BMW 5 Series competitor. Both the CTS and STS were slightly bigger than their rivals but slightly smaller than the next step up. What does that mean? The CTS was bigger than the 3 Series but smaller than a STS and BMW 5 Series. The STS was slightly bigger than the 5 Series but smaller than a BMW 7 Series. This lasted for another generation. But sometime during the 2nd gen CTS, the STS was canceled. The 3rd generation CTS arrived. But this CTS REPLACED the STS and an new entrant came to be. The ATS. Meaning, the CTS now is DIRECTLY competing with the BMW 5 Series in size as well. The ATS gets smaller than the 1st and 2nd gen CTS and is now the SAME size as the 3 Series Bimmer. ( The 4 Series Bimmer now also grew to be bigger....) OK...NOW....with ANOTHER name change... CADILLAC HAS GONE BACK to the original formula in that the CT4 is a tweener like the 1st and 2nd gen CTS was to the 3 Series Bimmer and a competitor to the 4 Series Bimmer which is slightly bigger than the 4 Series and the CT5 is slightly bigger than the 5 Series Bimmer but pricewise...Both Cadillacs are directly inline with their respective BMW rivals. Johan...wanted a car SMALLER than the ATS. That was scrapped I believe as there are no talks about it ever since he left Cadillac. And yes...RWD. Shyte! Cadillac has been in this RWD market sports sedan niche since 1997. That be 23 years. yes. Of coarse a smaller car than the ATS would be RWD. Cadillac has gone full out RWD performance for its CARS since the first CTS-V hit the streets in 2004... Their was even a failed XLR...Corvette borrowed chassis in that mix and a very real V12 mid engined concept car created that actually drove like a REAL production car. THAT is how serious Cadillac was for doing RWD performance cars.... And THAT is waaaaaay before Johan came in at Cadillac. All Johan did was continue the perfornce RWD trend. Nothing to do Johan stating he will do RWD in segments where the Japanese and Germans are going FWD. But EVERYTHING to do in continuing what Cadillac had started a decade plus before he came in... And THAT is why I said... WRONG Lets get our facts straight. PS: The ATS L in China was almost like an afterthought when Cadillac decided to start selling cars in China. That was AFTER the ATS development but was easy to do as the ATS rode on the Alpha platform. The bigger CTS rides on that platform too... The BIGGER mistake was NOT offering the ATS-L in North America. They had NOTHING to lose in doing so... BUT...Like you said OCN. Cadillac has an onslaught of EVs coming. But Ill bet a bigger selection of CUV and SUV EVs will be offered first and the sedan EVs will be limited. Maybe a CT6 sized or S Class sized Cadillac EV sedan will come to fruition and maybe a Tesla Model S competitor in a CT5 V EV will be produced, but not before an onslaught of EV CUVs...

This thread has been hijacked anyway talking about Mercedes more than Genesis...on TWO occasions. So to derail it further and perhaps in a more interesting topic... Not really a slow news day. Delta airlines is retiring all of its Boeing 777s. That is a big blow to Boeing as Delta is also going to replace their fleet of 777s with relying on their Airbus A350-900s with their longer routes and for their smaller routes with the Airbus A330. Delta says that both Airbuses are more fuel efficient and cost effective than the 777.

*SIGH* WRONG Oi Vey WRONG AGAIN

wrong wrong. Not in the US... That number is worldwide...and thanx in part to taxi and police car liveries... wrong

Wrong From where I stand and Ive seen... ALL Mercedes vehicles below the MODERN S Class are...budget. The G Wagen especially...its a military vehicle. Military vehicles are as budget as budget gets...