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Maybe you need to fancy some humour? I dunno. You had a rough day? Or are you an insufferable, bitchy white male yourself? You know... PHOQUE YOU!!! White females being Karens is a phoquing meme... It exists on the phoquing internet...as a phoquing joke... https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/karen/ For a guy that wants to shame me for internet stereotypes...you sure represent a male version of Karen... Way to go to quell THAT stereotype... Go talk to my manager. His number is 1-800-eat-shyt Now go and petition so I could lose my job. Get canceled from my internet persona forum...
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Buick is barely alive. SAAB is dead. Porsche is creating CUVs to chase volume, and peddling those CUVs to the world's LEAST interested in any kind of enthusiast criteria and while their turbo 911 is one of the world's most capable and fun cars around, it means little when Porsche's image now is all about cup holder ergonomics and rich bitch, entitled whiny white female -Karens- (as opposed to their lesser priced VW and Audi counterparts that cater to entitled whiny white bitch female -Karens-) So...not too well as it may.
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Who is talking about SUVs being fun to drive? Acura still sells sedans and the NSX. And are righting the ship that Porsche failed to see. Porsche builds CUVs now too... And all of them are NOT fun to drive.... Their sedan is a bloated, heavy, ugly thing. Not fun to drive either. Its sad when Porsche has to remind folk at the Super Bowl that they build fast exciting supercars with a fake "exciting" heist advert/movie thing... Pathetic Acura/Honda does well enough. Honda also makes motorcycles. Speedbikes. Cruisers. They got the NSX. They got the new TLX. The Civic Si. They got their bases covered. Again, Porsche or Ferrari dont have ANYTHING this Honda does... They dont perform like a sports car. They are impressive. But they dont perform like a PURE sports car. And to be honest, its all that electronic wizz bang technology that makes these SUVs perform which at the same time, is EXACTLY the problem... 1. SUVs are heavy. High center of gravity. #1 and #2 reasons why that kills fun to drive. 2. SUVs have electronic nannies helping speed and performance and preventing bone headed maneuvers. #3 and #4 reasons why that kills fun to drive. 3. Those SUVs also have further electronic nannies helping said top heavy SUVs from rolling over. #5 reason that kills fun to drive... 4. And those SUVs are marketed to and sold to folk that are in the VERY LEAST....car enthusiasts... #6 reason why this has killed REAL fun to drive cars to exist... HONDA is trying very hard to COUNTER that. Not with SUPER BOWL commercials. But with actual product... But you are all over the place... What is it? Does Chevrolet build SUVs like they have for the last 100 years to make profit, or do they make super sports cars and drop everything else? Does Honda STOP producing motorcycles because...they need to focus on outdoing Lamborghinis? Honda has the enthusiast covered in many ways. Ford has the enthusiast covered in many ways. (An off roading Bronco is JUST about to enter service) Like I said...Ford has them covered...
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Maybe you should apply for a CEO job at Cadillac?
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THAT is NOT what the NSX is all about. Its about TECHNOLOGY. Its about fun to drive. It aint about high horsepower. The NSX is a MARVEL to throw around curves and just drive fast or to cruise around in. Not meant to be a barn burner. The original NSX wasnt a barn burner either. The NSX's mission (original and now) was to showcase technology and to focus on driving characteristics rather than brute force. (With reliability at the forefront). The NSX of today succeeds in that regard. People just dont remember the past too good. People, much like yourself, just have one specific idea stuck in their minds and cant understand the whole story. Or choose not too. And perhaps is the reason why the new NSX is failing in the marketplace. Maybe it was a mistake for Honda to go that route rather than a Hellcat kinda way...I dunno know Alls I know, is I dont fault the NSX for what it is. I like it. If Id want brute force, the Hellcat is always there for me...
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You read that wrong...or being very disingenuous on why the Black-Wing V8 program was cut. Slow sales of sedans due to market shift to CUVs. Program would have lost tons of money because the Omega NEEDS BOTH SEDANS AND CUVs to be BUILT to be PROFITABLE. GM is in the business to MAKE money. Money cant be bleeding because OTHER programs like the C8 Corvette and the BOF trucks and SUVs needed to be advanced. (The bankruptcy DID have an effect of those programs and the lack of R&D funds BECAUSE of the bankruptcy tends to AFFECT some other iffy money making projects...such as the Omega.) The Escalade makes TONS of cash for Cadillac. Cadillac NEEDS the Escalade to fund the iffy Omega project. The iffy Omega project CAN make money if ALL the stars are aligned properly. A shift in the market meant that the Omega sedans wouldnt be selling enough units to equally balance the CUV engineering of Omega to push forward iffy Black-wing V8 offerings. THAT and EVs were ALWAYS on the table for Cadillac EVEN WHEN Johan was there. So...it was either making the Escalade the BEST it could be, or cheapening IT out to subsidize an even more cheapening of Omega models and risk flubbing EVs in the process...and...goiing back to square one and ALWAYS doing things shytty JUST to pursue sales or... Scuttling Omega, scuttling the Blackwing V8 and cutting/limiting your losses and doing a PROPER Escalade with PROPER R&D money for the EVs... The article stated that the CT4 and CT5 had Johan's fingerprints all over them. And it shows. Where the CT6 was debuted with a not so standard of the world interior, the CT4 and CT5 are EXACTLY on par with Audi in that the interiors of the CT4 and CT5 are now WORTHY of the moniker "standard of the world". The Escalade WILL BE Cadillac worthy... AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN BY THAT ARTICLE... Besides,iIsnt that what you constantly bitch about Cadillac? That its interiors are sub-par. Here, you have a correction made by Cadillac management to do the right thing and you STILL bitch about it..
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Nope. Chevy sponsors its racing program. Corvette engineers work closely with the Racing Team that builds and races the Corvette Racer and the Corvette Racing program DIRECTLY influences the factory Corvette which in turn DIRECTLY influences what Chevrolet and the tuner/hot rod market offers in the aftermarket... Boutique sports car maker for close to 100 years. Chevrolet. Full line vehicles. Honda. Is probably the MOST diverse. Motorcycles. Automobiles. Lawnmowers. Generators. Robotics. Jets. Marine engines. Ferrari is a one trick pony. Not a bad thing. Its just what they do. Sports cars. Chevy, Ford, Honda. Are diverse. Not a bad thing. Its just what they do. Ford Raptor. You know...NOTHING that Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini do, can do what a Ford Raptor does. There is NOTHING in their arsenal that competes with a Ford Raptor... Can a Porsche 911 AWD straight from the factory crawl rocks or super speed through rough terrain? NOPE!
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And? Corvette's dont live and die on the Nurburgring. Porsche's do... The Z51 is NOT a track focused sportscar. Its actually a GT car. Corvettes are not exactly targeted, marketed and engineered to compete DIRECTLY with Porsche 911s model for model and Porsche 911s are NOT exactly targeted, marketed and engineered to compete DIRECTLY with Corvettes model for model... Each car has a target market in their HOME market and sell to THAT criteria. The C4 Corvette had 1 trim. Then in 1989 gained another. Then in the mid 1990s had 3. Base, (Z51 option) Grand Sport and ZR1 and then the ZR1 was ended leaving the C4 with 2 models. The C5 only had 2. The BASE (Z51 option)and the Z06. The C6 had 4. The C7 had 4 and the C8 will have 4. The Porsche 911 since the 1990s has had COUNTLESS of models doing countless of jobs. In the 1980s, it had 3 or 4. Problem with YOUR thinking is that Porsche is a BOUTIQUE SPORTS CAR maker. Chevrolet is a FULL LINE automobile and truck maker. It will be an all-in effort. With ALL the big bang, wizz wang tech of the day. BUT...it WILL have compromises. Yes to a price. An AMG-ONE costs 2 point something million to buy. A Vette is NOT an AMG-One or Ford GT. A Vette is a...Vette. You want a multi-million dollar Vette? Customize it, hot rod it, tune it...ON YOUR OWN!!! But it wont be anything related to speed, performance and technology. Dont expect it to have exotic leathers in it. Or extra special paint jobs... Maybe on the Zora, it might have personalized touches built to a personalized specific car.
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Dont know. Dont really car either. Chevrolet, not only offers a WIDE variety of crate motors, 20-25 different versions of their V8 that one could buy JUST by visiting a Chevrolet dealership, or even better, order online but Chevrolet ALLOWS tuners like Lingenfelter and Callaway and engine builders like Edelbrock to further enhance their V8 and allows them to sell it. Chevrolet FULLY licenses and backs this up IMMENSELY. Chevrolet allows suspension modders and computer chip modders to do their thing on their V8s and licenses others to produce classic body shells of their classic cars and Chevrolet licenses these cars to be modernized. All those restomodded 1970 Chevelles and 1969 Camaros and C2/C3 and C5/C6/C7 Corvettes with crate motor LS engines tuned by Lingenfelter ot re-built by Edelbrock with modern suspension set-ups that outperform Ferraris on the dragstrip and track and the like are IN ESSENCE...ALL CHEVROLET SUPERCARS AND HYPERCARS... Chevrolet beats up on the competition STRAIGHT from the factory or GRASS ROOTS...and it dont matter to Chevy or Chevy owners how the Corvette beats up on the competition... But you just dont get it...and never will Im afraid.
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Corvettes ARE just about the fastest things around... When a new Vette comes out, it sets the bar and the others meat and and beat it. The Stingray C8 does that. The Stingray is fastest in its SEGMENT. Not the 911 Turbo, but the base 911. Base for base. The Z06 and Grand Sport targets the 911 Turbo. You have a habit of comparing BASE Corvettes with mind numbing performing, top of the line versions of the Vette's competitors. And when others show you what top of the line Corvettes do...you dismiss and say stuff like How much faster do you want? The BASE C8 does 0-60 in 2.8-2.9 seconds... 1/4 mile in 11.2 seconds @ 122MPH A TICK shy of 200MPH. (195) That is on a BASE Corvette A 911 Turbo S 2019 because 2020 911 Turbo S aint out yet just as the Z06 aint out yet... GRAND SPORT, ZR1 and ZORA to come... 0-60 2.6 seconds 1/4 mile in 10.5 seconds and a tick north of 200MPH (205) You want a hypercar from General Motors? OK...fair enough. The ZORA And the ZORA will be sell in low low numbers. NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN HYPERCARS FROM FERRARI, LAMBORGHINI, AMG-ONE... (275 units for a one-time shot...) You act like hypercars from other makers are a dime a dozen and being re-made into new generations every year... The 918 from Porsche was a 2year run. NO REPLACEMENT The LaFerrari was a 3 year run. The FXX-K is RELATED to the LaFERRARI. Only 40 built and that only latest 2 years.Now, there is a NEW one, well, new name...the FXX-K EVO since 2017. In total, 8 years on the SAME platform, just improved DIFFERENT names... Yeah...kinda like Porsche. But hey! THAT is a smart move for Porsche, a BOUTIQUE SPORTS CAR MAKER but a negative move for Chevrolet. A FULL LINE automobile and TRUCK maker for OVER 100 years... PS: You DO you know that CHEVROLET backs and engineers, licenses, ENCOURAGES that HOT RODDING and AFTERMARKET PERFORMANCES of THEIR SPORTS CARS, right? IN ESSENCE, MAKING ALL THOSE HOMEMADE FAST CORVETTES and CAMAROS AND BEL AIRS/IMPALAS and CHEVELLES on the track, dragstrip, car shows, GM AND CHEVROLET HYPERCARS!!!
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Yeah...now the GT2 does that. The ZL1 1LE embarassed Porsche so Porsche engineered another to beat the Camaro. In any case, Chevrolet has no business (according to you) to produce highly specialized and fast track cars... especially being faster than German and European sports cars. And yet, Chevrolet and America did just that. Yup... I wonder why literally nobody swaps German V8s into their dream cars...especially AMG V8s into Mercedes products? and...
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@smk4565 Dont feel bad... Even the Camaro got LS swapped. OH WAIT....
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I am soooo wrong. The few that are left, all have been LS swapped... https://www.streetmusclemag.com/features/car-features/sophistication-meet-power-the-ls1-swapped-benz-vette/ https://engineswapdepot.com/?p=2146 https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15342583/pagoda-style-meets-corvette-power-in-mysterious-1965-mercedes-benz-230sl/ https://bringatrailer.com/2015/08/20/ls-swapped-euro-1984-mercedes-benz-280sl/ This one has been 2JayZe-ed LOL http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/12/500sl-like-youve-never-seen-heard/ This link here...is VERY VERY telling. It has MULTIPLE stories of M-B SL swaps... https://engineswapdepot.com/?cat=527 The next one is an LS 6.0 liter swap from a Chevy 2500HD Pick-up... FROM A CHEVY PICK-UP TRUCK... This one has a phoquing NISSAN 3.1 liter 6... How phoquing pathetic is THAT for Mercedes' pride and joy to have a phoquing Nissan 3.1 liter 6 swap?
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There is virtually NO SL Mercedes cars on the road from 35 years ago. The few there are left, are garage queens. The ones that are not...were scrapped a loooong time ago. Corvettes are the ones to be still on the road. In any condition, you will find them. Why? Because they run. They run forever. Cut that shyte out! Mercedes cars are NOT built to last. The W123 was. The E Class replacements were. Because TAXI service. But the others are junk! I really dont get this idea where you think Mercedes cars are built to last? I dont even think the G-wagon is built to last... All BOUTIQUE marques. Lamborghini, Ferrari, Bugatti, McLaren, Porsche... THAT IS ALL THEY DO, Is SPORTS CARS. Are you really serious when you are talking to me. Or are you trolling me? Seriously... Ford, Honda (because anywere else in the world other than the US and possibly the Emirates now, Acuras are just Hondas...) Toyota/Lexus are FULL LINE regular folk marques... But... A Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 at that time, and its still a top Nurburgring lap champ, was faster than Porsche GT2 RS. A very dedicated track car on its home turf, and the Camaro ZL1 1LE kicked its ass... Yeah...I know...Porsche brought out better track cars. OF COURSE THEY DID! THEY GOT EMBARRASSED THAT A LOWLY CHEVY KICKED ITS ASS ON ITS HOME TURF... A MAKER OF PIG SUVS AND MUSCLE CARS THAT CANT TURN KICKED PORSCHE"S ASS ON ITS HOME TURF TRACK. THE VAUNTED 'RING!!! NOT EVEN THE CORVETTE> THE CAMARO OF ALL THINGS!!! A PORKY MUSCLE CAR CAMARO KICKED PORSCHE 911GT2 RS TRACK ORIENTED SUPERCAR'S ASS ON THE RING... https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a10206481/the-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-1le-blitzed-the-nurburgring-in-71604/ Remember...THAT is ALL Porsche does... Is do track cars, especially track cars focused to track on the 'Ring... Its a BOUTIQUE manufacturer that ONLY makes sports cars... Well...now they have become SUV makers. But that discussion is for another day... http://www.autoextremist.com/current/?currentPage=2 I wouldnt want Chevy to ONLY concentrate on sport cars if I were you. Chevy would make you cry...
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The F40 was also very very cheap on the inside. Same link https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a5975/1990-chevrolet-corvette-zr-1-drive-flashback/ But is it, as Chevy hopes, a world-class car? (The envelope, please!) Yes. The Corvette ZR-1 acquits itself well amidst some very fast company. Yet it does so with a level of sophistication and comfort beyond what most exotics (but not specialty cars such as the Porsche 959) currently deliver. Throw in availability and serviceability (the GM-CAMS computer diagnostic system, mandatory service equipment for all ZR-1 dealers), and you have a car that offers the best of the old and the new world. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15114543/1989-chevrolet-corvette-z51-vs-porsche-911-archived-comparison-test/ Let me remind you , Road and Track, Car and Driver, and sometimes Motor Trend...were NEVER that friendly towards American cars in the 1980s and 1990s. And here you got, R&D and C&D...with VERY FAVOURABLE reviews for the ZR1 and Z51 of 1989 and 1988(9) respectively from articles of the day... I said this before, NEVER BAD MOUTH THE VETTE. Ill say THIS again. REFRAIN to bad mouth Cadillac. Im getting sick of it. Believe it all you want. Stop printing it on here...I dont wanna read it anymore. I dont want to become bulimic...
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The F40 was also very very cheap on the inside. Besides...different car. Besides...Vettes also, albeit Callaway and Lingenfelter Vettes did over 200MPH, much like the F40...and those Vettes retained Corvette motors... Besides, the 1989 Vette ZR1 was more in line with Ferrari 328s , much like how the Vette today is in line with a F8 Tributo... I cant find the Motor Trend cover with big bold lettters...but here is a R&D mag link from 2014... https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a5975/1990-chevrolet-corvette-zr-1-drive-flashback/ "Truth is, most European automotive enthusiasts have little regard for almost any automobile America has produced in recent memory." sounds like you... Get a new angle going...its 2020. Move on from it or just stop posting this shyte. Hey...continue believing in it if you want to...I just dont feel like listening to this shytty rhetoric any more...Its getting tiresome...
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wrong wrong true. But so has Ford. Chevrolet. Dodge. Oldsmobile. Alfa Romeo. Buick. Renault. Among others. Oh...I forgot. CADILLAC Wrong. They even benchmark Jeep...on many occasions i n the 1970s. Including when they merged with Chrysler... wrong. So phoquing wrong. Chrsyler, Ford and GM all experimented with airbags in the 1960s and 1970s and GM was the first domestic manufacturer to offer airbags in their cars in the early 1970s and Volvo actually beating them to the punch... wrong (that comes from the aerospace industry, but it aint even M-B that used ABS first on cars either... Chrysler, Ford, Oldsmobile and Cadillac all had ABS in the early 1970s. Ill give you that one wrong. That would be Toyota... Are you phoquing kidding me? Ford had its own phoquing tree farms for Christ sakes... Early 1950s....sure. But by the time 1959 rolled in, that 300SL was on the decline while the Corvette took flight. It took 40 years for Mercedes to outdo a Corvette. In 1989...this was M-B's pride and joy that stemmed from the original Gullwing. A gold diggin' trophy wife car. In 1990, the new SL came out and THAT is when Mercedes started to be on a roll in the US.... NOT before... In 1989...A Vette was King of the Hill. Mercedes wasnt talked about in 1989... The Vette got that in 1955. The following year. But in 1957, the Bel Air had it too... So did Chrysler. I think in 1955 also. Fuel injection was a German invention, sure. But fo aircraft engines in the 1920s and diesel engines. Not a Mercedes Benz invention... Its amazing...of all of that .only ONE thing was correct. Now...do you care to see what General Motor's contributions to the automotive world are? Electric starter AIRBAGS. Yes..its a GM invention... automatic transmission parts interchangeability the standard of how we drive the damn car today and for the last 100 years. ie. Brake pedal on the left. Accelerator pedal on the right, etc. Catalytic converter highway speed and safety barriers Crash Test dummies ON STAR (for in-car communication and collection of data and satellite connectivity in a car, etc) First car radio synchromesh manual transmission power adjustable seats rear window defroster heated seats first turbo in a car. Although that too is an aerospace technology. traction control. (different form stability control) Touchscreens first to offer Head up displays (although that too, is an aerospace thing) first to offer Night vision (military tech) Magnetic shocks
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"C2 Corvette" NOT C3...
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What self-respecting luxury car refers to itself as most economical fine? Luxury cars are all about SELF-INDULGENT, EXCESSIVE, NARCISSISTICALLY ARROGANT purchases. Contrary to what that advert is trying to convey, aint it? And THAT is a W123 Mercedes... A "luxury" car in the USA, but an econobox everywhere else in the world. Hey...dont hate on me, dude. THAT is a MERCEDES BENZ advert for that car.... Ive done this argument sooooooo many times on car forums (and in real life with my dumb ass Greek friends) that its easy to dig up material like this... Mercedes Benz...is more of a common man's car than it is a pure luxury car. Blame a certain mustachioed short man from the 1930s-1940s for that... And you could thank good 'ole Yankee and British subsidized money for resurrecting Mercedes from the dead while you are at it...
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You are right, for a change. Cadillac was ALWAYS a true luxury brand. Mercedes sold and still sells to the common man.
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I always say...on July 4rth: Happy Birthday USA! But now, Im saying it 2 weeks earlier and saying it to an actual person. Happy Birthday @USA-1 My gift to you. A visual delight! Hulk Hogan because of the "you are a real American" intro he had. F-4 Phantom II because it was such a great kick-ass plane. This one is the Bicentennial one. You know...Happy 200th America. Not that Im implying that you are a 200 year old geezer...just that its a kick-ass plane...and you know...birthday.. Corvette. You own a C5. This C3 is AMERICA baby! (and...your name up front) And a couple of USA-1 (your name) Chevys in action.
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I googled and I found something. I didnt read the link myself. But I do know that the link article is includes the original Motor Trend 1992 Cimarron test, the Car and Driver 1982 Cimarron comparison test with the Audi and Bimmer. And I think this is the article that @balthazar is talking about. And the Road and Track comparison test of the 1982 Cimarron with the Audi and Bimmer. https://www.curbsideclassic.com/uncategorized/vintage-reviews-cadillac-cimarron/ I wont be reading it anytime soon, therefore I wouldnt know anytime soon if the Car and Driver article originally liked the Cimarron. But, here it is for you to found out though. In my honest opinion of the Cimarron after reading countless articles for and against it. Arguing on car forums, mostly against it, and actually remembering it from back in the day and comparing it with the countless of Cavaliers Ive driven and was being driven in. That also Includes the J2000/Sunbird and Oldsmobile Firenza. And yes, all those J cars that I have experience in range from years 1985-1992. From a 2.0 liter Turbo (Sunbird), to 2.8 liter V6s and even a 3.1 literV6. Cant forget the N/A 2.0 4 cylinder. Ive driven that as well. Oh...I almost forgot. I drove a 2.2 liter Cavalier as well. On the Cimarron and on the J Car in general. It wasnt THAT bad of a car. It was actually an OK car. In 2.8 or 3.1 V6 guise, it was pretty peppy AND reliable. Problem was with the Cimarron, yuppies did not want ANYTHING with a Cadillac badge on it. Anything American really. As I also had quite the experiences with a BMW 3 Series of that time, other than lightweight RWD handling characteristics of a Bimmer 3 Series, the Cimarron was actually quite comparable with that ECONOBOX 3 Series. Interiors of both were quite the same... Which arises another problem for Cadillac. The Cimarron did NOT have Cadillac "Standard of the World" interior. And THAT its where iot failed. NOT because it was a J car clone, well that too. It was a BADGE ENGINEERED car. But had it been an exclusive car ONLY to Cadillac with a Cadillac worthy interior, we would be singing a different tune about it today. The J cars were not bad cars, truth be told. They were just too many of them. Badge engineering at its worst. What gets me with BMW, and it shows in this thread with some, and especially with my dumb ass Greek friends of the day, the same shyte over and over and over again that drives me mad, its the the blind defending of BMW. BMW gets a PASS for being shytty. In reality, Its a crappy RWD econobox. You know what was reallly a better RWD econobox car during that time? But NOBODY seems to talk about it. No so called car enthusiast EVER bring is it up. Just the same ole same ole rhetoric. BMW 3 Serries blah blah blah. Cimarron sucks. I present to you the RWD 1st generation Mazda 626. And now I just realized why an inline 6 Mazda 6 for 2021 or 2022 makes even more sense... But yeah...Im a Honda fanbois...
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Funny... You keep on shytting on Cadillac from 40 years ago and look at today's Cadillacs through that lense. But here about BMW, you seem to defend BMW on shytting on its heritage and that BMW is NOT what it was 40 years ago... The thing is...40 years ago is what made BMW sell the amounts it sells today, but NOTHING it sells today resembles what BMW are. And you say that as it was a positive for BMW but a negative for Cadillac? The thing is...Cadillac does NOT make shyt cars anymore...there are NO Cateras or V8-6-4s around. WTF???!!! The thing is, Cadillac is actually building brand recognition. Ever so slowly. BMW is actually killing its brand image and you and @frogger seem to be ignoring that... Acura did the same thing Cadillac did and what BMW keeps on doing.... Acura killed its brand image. Its restoring it. BMW is not... Listen. It was fun discussing Acura, BMW and Cadillac. But Ive gotten bored by it. Its deja vu for me this conversation. Ive had it about Cadillac since the 1990s, and back then I was defending blindly Cadillac in the same blind way you and @frogger are doing with BMW now. Im moving on to other things... Acuras still bore me to death. Especially CUVs from Acura. CUVs in general. I guess you and @frogger could knock your socks off with BMW's super awesome X1s, X3s, X5s, X6s and now the X7...because sales talks and CUVs are soooooo much fun to talk about in so called enthusiast car forums...
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You know... What makes this weird. Is that over the years in automotive forums. Ive been called a Ford fanbois, Ive been called a Ive been called a Honda fanbois. Ive been called Ferrari fanbois. Firstly. Im NOT a fanbois of anything. Well...maybe muscle cars. I could be called a muscle car fanbois, but I was never ever called one. Secondly. I have NEVER EVER been called a Pontiac or Oldsmobile Fanbois. (JUST LOOK AT MY NAME AND AVATAR for Christ's sake...) Im not exactly a Ferrari fanbois, but I do like Ferraris more than any other exotic. I prefer Vettes over Ferraris, but that type of car is really not my cup of tea. MUSCLE CARS ARE!!! MUSCLE CARS!!! In the 12 or so years that Ive been posting in automotive forums., in the way I wax poetic about 442s, Trans Ams, and muscle cars in general, it would seem only normal for me to be labeled a Pontiac or Oldsmobile or muscle car fanbois. But no! Ive defended Ford in the past and now Honda vehemently, but I guess that confuses people.... I have confessed my hatred for BMW many times, Honda a tad less, but because I have advertised that I own an Acura, that makes me a fanbois... But me waxing poetic about crappy handling muscle cars, having extinct American brand Pontiac Trans Am chickens and equally extinct american brand Oldsmobile as my automotive forum name for 12 years does not make me a fanbois... Im kinda sad actually. Maybe I got to be more vocal and in your face about Pontiac and Oldsmobile so I could get the right brand fanbois recognition then!
