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Here. Some real 1980s style from General Motors. From Chevrolet. This style borrows heavily from its past, but its oh so 1980s goodness. Not that dullard, stale, staid, antique styling of those E Bodies from Cadillac, Buick and Oldsmobile. But the fresh, cocaine inspired, yuppie enthused, Wall Street madness, new aged '80s craziness of the C4 Corvette.

I could feel the '80s douchey yuppiness oozing out of the computer screen as I post these pics.

Yes. Just opinions. But its fun ribbing each other though. I must admit. The Riviera is not too shabby in this early to mid 1980s era. I do prefer it over the other two GM siblings. Between all three siblings, to me, the Riviera is more classy and oozes more luxury presence. The Oldsmobile seems to be more "sporty" looking. And "sporty" is in quotation marks. Because in the 1980s. whether we like it or not, whether we like or hate these frustrated failed racing car driver automotive journalists, the 6 Series wipes the floor with this GM platform...the 6 Series WOULD be sporty...especially in M635CSi guise... And the Cadillac Eldorado just PROVES why Cadillac has failed in the market place the last 40 or so years as compared to BMW and Audi and Mercedes. Its just a badge job Oldsmobile. At least the Riviera had a few curvey body panels that were different. The Toronado and the Eldorado seem to share the same pieces...except for front and rear clips. And even if the Toro and Eldo do NOT share the same body panels, BECAUSE it SEEMS like they do...THAT would be a BIG NO NO for the halo car Caddy... I do like the Riviera. This Riviera. Not the transverse V6 ones that came after. Better than the other two GM siblings for sure. But I prefer the Bimmer. It may not be as classy as the Riviera in looks. But BMWs are not supposed to be classy... The 6 Series is sporty. And its certainly more sporty than GM's trio in looks , feels and driving dynamics. And GM's interiors at this point in time, including these three...were certainly no better than BMW's 6 Series...

^^^ Um...NO! Id rather the Bimmer. That Buick has two other GM divisions that share that badge engineered styling. Not that its ugly or anything...its just there...like a plastic fork. The 1960s and early 1970s Boattail Rivieras had shark nose front ends. BMW imitated that style early on in the 1970s and carried it through with the 6 Series in a very nice and cool 1980s kinda way. What makes that 1980s Riviera special? Because its painted all black? That Rolling Stone song was made in the 1960s ironically and by the 1980s, Metallica had their own version of "Black" in their song that was fresher and newer and...cooler...kinda like that Bimmer 6 Series By the 1980s, Mick Jagger was Dancing in the Streets with a remake trying to stay relevant...kinda like that 80's Riviera. Yeah...the metaphors are strong and rampant and I hope you get them!

Ill repeat. Stiffer springs equate to luxury? According to whom? (rhetorical question...but there are many reasons and people who accepted that characteristic to be the new definition of luxury and Cadillac and Lincoln was left out in the cold...) Ill give kudos to BMW that took that narrative and ran with it and made not only Cadillac chase them, and KIA, and Lexus, BUT Mercedes AND Audi as well. BMW had a good awesome strategy with the help of these American car magazines. But the narrative of what is luxury has changed again as times have changed...again. BMW had a hand in that too, unbeknownst to them. They muddied their offerings, made them more traditionally American with American style luxury of yore...with their bigly 7 Series and their opulent SUVs. And SUVs are more of an American thing than anything else... And BECAUSE the narrative of luxury being redefined again, THAT is why high priced, high content, more opulent versions of work horse AMERICAN pick-up trucks ARE luxury in TODAY's 2020 world... After all, their luxury branded SUV counterparts that are based on the workhorse SUVs which are based on the workhorse pick-up trucks ARE luxury, non? What is good for the goose is good for the gander, non? (regarding literally econobox BMW 3 Series and taxi cab M-B E Class...) Back to Cadillac. Cadillac does indeed need to STOP trying to sell to the lowest common denominator and trying to sell to the masses. THAT means that their vehicles...ALL OF THEM...ALL TRIMS AND MODELS....need to be TOP NOTCH which ALSO means that the price tags NEED to go up up up. Which also means that their sales WILL NOT be high... Price tags do NOT reflect quality and luxury. Quality and...the CURRENT definition of luxury define luxury. But prices NEED to reflect that. Therefore...price tags NEED to be high. But that means that regular folk...middle class folk and lower classes, even high end middle class folk NEED NOT APPLY...which means that sales are going to be limited...but that is OK. THAT is what is needed for Cadillac.

They say flying is easier than driving. (Dont know myself, I havent flown an aircraft, but that is what "they" say.) Therefore, if you could drive a car, you could fly an aircraft. (With proper training...) Yes, the military stuff is cool. Id say cooler than the civilian stuff. I happen to love both though. At one time, I liked aircraft more than I did cars.

As far as 1980s cars and 1980s styling goes, the BMW 6 Series is a good looking car. Just look what the 1980s Riviera ended being (and that also includes ya'lls favorite longtitude FWD V8 one as well as the traverse V6 one) and then you get a clearer picture of why the BMW 6 Series is a good looking car. But, thank goodness we humans dont all have the same taste and opinions. What a boring world it would be. But...those who say the 6 Series is not beautiful: Y'all are WRONG!

All you could do IS laugh... You got nothing else...

I am not suggesting that the 6 Series resembles the Riviera like I did with the other style of pics I did earlier in this thread with other cars. I just wanted to appreciate THE personal coupe of the 1960s and then show how BMW did their version 20 years later. Although you could see how BMW took some visual styling cues from the Riviera and made it their own. And yes. I think the 6 Series is beautiful.

yes he said it. He just spun it a different way afterwards when he saw his deceit could not fly with the more educated, less idiotic Americans ... Stop being an enabler... YOU are part of the problem... It doint look good when you whine about NO POLITCS. YET HERE YOU ARE CONTINUING WITH...POLITICS Back to airplanes for the SECOND TIME

You just ignore links...like the right wing piece of shyte you are. And when he says he wants to open up the Canadian/American border when his country is dying from the supposed hoax of a virus...one that YOU also believed was a hoax... (you want links to those posts YOU made when YOU downvoted me? Assh0le?) You are a bible thumper besides all that? Practise what the good book taught you... Trump...according to the good book is an evil doer. And YOU enable him... I would worry more about how you would explain to your maker on why you enable an evil doer more so than a couple of chosen words I say to you....even on Easter Sunday. At least I aint a hypocritical, evil doer enabler... When HE wanted to block 3M masks to come to Canada when Canada actually supplies the materials to 3M....yeah...I HAVE SKIN in this you MORON!!! Back to airplanes because obviously YOU are in your own retarded Trump world of lies, deceit and IGNORANCE. (You want proof that he tried to block 3M masks to Canada? You want proof that Canada supplies 3M? Google it you dumb phoque because all you are gonna say to me is fake phoquing news...)

Shove a phoquing dildo up yours, and then stick it in your mouth. The RULES STATE NO POLITICS! Why the phoquing Al Gore reference you Republican jack ass???!!! Why the Trudeau reference then you right wing assh0le???!!! You hypocritical sum bitch... if YOU wanted NO politics...then YOU wouldnt have mention Al Gore in the FIRST PHOQUING PLACE and YOU would have IGNORED MY POSTS and NOT answered me back! To which I didnt EVEN MENTION HIS PRESIDENCY! I even DEFENDED HIM! BUT ACCORDING TO YOU< YOU WEASEL, I CANT EVEN ENJOY THE FREEDOM OF CALLING HIM A CON DURING HIS 1980s DAYS! ARE YOU PHOQUING KIDDING ME???!!! YOU are a LITTLE weasel. A BIG...LITTLE WEASEL! PHOQUE OFF, BRO! You PAY for your subscription in here and THAT is why Drew defends (defended you?) and THAT is why I get the flack I do when I raise my tone in here. But that will NEVER stop me from answering you back in kind!

Nope. The 3 Series BMW was just an econobox that had sporty intentions. And sporty I mean they handled corners better than American land yachts. But that is not a strike against American land yachts. To be fair, our roads for the most part were and still are relatively straight and our highway systems were and still are meant to connect vast amounts of square miles connecting vast amounts of American and Canadian territories connecting each of us together connecting both our countries together between ourselves as Americans or Canadians from coast to coast East and West and North to South and between BOTH of our countries crossing THE longest UNDEFENDED border between 2 countries. The BMW ride that is supposed sporty is just stiffer springs. THAT is what is classified as luxury? American land yachts were PURPOSEFULLY meant wallow as to absorb any bumps on our very straight roads making our car rides as SMOOTH as possible and THAT was the philosophy. Riding on a cloud meant that THAT was the LUXURY of traveling LONG distances to achieve FAMILY vacations... The 3 Series and its predecessor had SPARTAN econobox interiors. INCLUDING 1980s M3s. The E30 1990 3 Series started getting better interiors...but please...do NOT say that a 3 Series was luxury then. Its like going back to the taxi cab M-B E Class discussion. The high price tags is because foreign cars are taxed to death in North America. But THAT also goes for American cars abroad. @ 5:38 in the video, the dude says the C8 will cost 46 000 pounds, in US money, but it will be much more than that in the UK when Chevrolet will be selling them there. 70 000-75 000 pounds to be exact he says. And hence why Mercedes cars in the 70s were almost double the price from Cadillacs. Same thing. But NEVER almost twice the luxury. Maybe 50% the luxury the Cadillacs had... Price...has NOTHING to do with luxury was the argument.... I would agree! Its just too phoquing bad Cadillac and GM and the other Detroit makers stooped soooooo low to phoque up their cars from the mid 1970s-late 1990s. But...that has all changed. Its weird looking at a BMW 3 Series today. It looks to be BIGGER than a 1980s and 1990s 5 Series. It has been...Americanized both in size, weight AND driving characteristics. Weird...huh?

Like how it used to be? Incredibly spacious with social distancing measures in place and for the wealthy again? Yeah...I could see that! And I got no problems with it! We all need to be humbled on this planet so we appreciate the REAL finer things in life. Which is living and breathing and being able to enjoy NATURE rather than material objects... And maybe when we could appreciate NATURE again by going BACK to BASICS for a looooong while, then maybe we could start upgrading again...

To be fair...the Dreamliner is of the next generation of passenger aircraft. The Airbus A350 is the last gen. The 757 and A321 is 2 generations ago. The DC3 I posted is 2nd (or even 3rd?) generation of passenger aircraft. The A380 is the next generation just like the Dreamliner except Airbus went on another economical philosophy with the A380 and Boeing went with another economical direction with the Dreamliner. It was a gamble for both manufacturers and Boeing was the one to correctly estimate that the Dreamliner would be the way to go for future passenger flying needs. That is why the A380 was retired. It was to replace the 747 physically. The Dreamliner was also to replace the 747...but in an airline company economical way to fly. To be fair, ANY passenger aircraft could be made to be more spacious and more luxurious and thus making them pleasant to be in, aside from old tech engines being more noisy and the like, and any passenger airplane could be made to cramp in as many passengers as possible making them less comfortable to fly in. Bombardier Aerospace which thanx to Boeing, sold that plane to Airbus and now its an Airbus A220 is also a next generation passenger aircraft. You got the jumbo jumbo in the A380 as the next generation. (now retired after a relatively short life span) You got the not so midsized but we will call it midsized next passenger airplane in the Dreamliner And then you got the smaller sized A220...And Im betting that Airbus would be upscaling it. The A220-100 seats 100-120 people. The A220-300 seats 120-150. A possible A220-400 would probably be made to replace the Boeing 737 MAX and Airbus' own A321 to seat 180-220 or something like that.... And THAT is why Boeing tried to sabotage Bombardier Aerospace with the former C Series now A220 as the A220 is really the next generation. A Boeing 737 MAX was just a band-aid solution...literally and figuratively. Boeing had no answer for it. And stupidly, they made Bombardier literally GIVE it to Airbus. Their MAIN rival... Bombardier would have never been able to produce in volume the amount necessary they would sell. They could have partnered up with Bombardier. Instead, their ONLY rival equivalent got it. STUPID. Donald J. Trump levels of conning from Boeing. Donald J. Trump levels of stupidity from Boeing! And then they phoque up the band-aid solution that was the 737 MAX which in itself, was a band-aid job to "modernize" the 737! Searching for pics...I came across this https://www.airway1.com/a-stretched-variant-of-the-a220-may-be-the-solution-to-replace-a319neo/ And another interesting pic with a 747. Queen of the skies front and center with its replacement in the background that failed to replace... but the A380 is impressive nonetheless.

YOU ARE SUCH A PHOQUING HYPOCRITE!!! I ENJOY SPEAKING CARS WITH YOU. BUT YOU MAKE ME BATSHYTE MAD WITH YOUR HYPOCRITICAL DOUCHEBAG POLITICAL STANCES! CUT OUT THAT SHYTE DUDE!!!! AL GORE, DONALD J. TRUMP ARE ALL CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH!!! ACTUALLY, DONALD J. TRUMP IS A MIX OF SLICK WILLY CLINTON AND AL GORE. WOMANIZING, RAPIST BASTERDS THAT LIE ABOUT ANYTHING TO GET POLITICAL AND ECONOMICAL GAINS! YET SOMEHOW, YOU ARE FAITHFULLY BOUND TO THAT CON PHOQUE OUT OF NEW YORK CITY? PHOQUE OFF!!!!

@ocnblu ON THIS SACRED DAY THAT IS GREEK ORTHODOX EASTER IM SICK AND TIRED OF YOUR CONSTANT DOWNVOTING REGARDING ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT ASSH0LE YOU CALL YOUR CURRENT PRESIDENT! PHOQUE YOU AND HIM! YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO RIDICULE ANYTHING POLITICAL THAT DOES NOT FAVOUR YOUR P.O.V. BUT THE MOMENT SOMEBODY HAS ANYTHING TO SAY CONTRARY TO YOUR VIEW....YOU DOWNVOTE. DONALD J. TRUMP IS A FRAUD AND A CON. WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

Who cares who rides in it. Ignore what the name represents. Appreciate the airplane. Its a 757. Its a beautiful airplane in its own right. Its got great graphics. And a hater of that name, myself included...and that hatred goes waaaaay back waaaaay before he was in any Presidential race. It goes waaaaaay before he was a TV celebrity. It actually goes back to when he made a cameo in a certain XMAS movie sequel... I never liked the guy. Always somehow knew he was a con and a fake. But I appreciate what he owns. All his private jets and helicopters past or present and the Trump Tower in NY are...truly awesome. I wish I could own some kind of high rise in New York City so I could plaster my family name on it. That is quite the accomplishment no matter what I think of the man.

Searching for all kinds of Boeing 747 pics on the net, because I love this airplane, I came across this 747 Airforce One pic that I found particularly interesting. Front and center is the President's ride while in the background is his own. I think its a great picture to share with you guys.

Im sorry. I did not mean to go down a negative path with Cadillac. We should celebrate these new Cadillacs. All these fiascos are in the past. The diesel route is just confusing to me...but in no way a fiasco. We have to celebrate you, Caddy! We have to praise you like we should!

Kalo Pas-ha Kaló Pás-ha I looked at all the spellings that English speaking Greeks all over the world do when they use the Latin alphabet to spell Greek words but none of them actually make sense. Including google translate. The second spelling with the accents on the o and a are from google and its meant to accentuate the syllable. But google translate amongst other sources have Easter spelled Pascha. But an English person will never pronounce it the way it should. Pas-ha. Yes...like ha ha ha like laughing ha ha ha. . Not cha cha cha the dance. There is another way that its spelled commonly spelled. Paska. But the ending is not ka like how a Bostonian would pahk his cah at Hahvahd yahd...and if he had a 2020 Hyundai, he'd be using smaht pahk. Thank-you for your wishes. And yes...the Greek Orthodox Church still uses the Julian Calendar for some of our religious dates. Well...mainly Easter. And yes, every once in a while, our Easters fall on the same day while mopst of the time it ranges from a week to 5 weeks difference and always after. Sadly...like for so many others for so many other religious or other events for billions across our planet, social distancing measures will take precedence for my family and hence, no midnight church for the First Light and no feast right after tonight. No roasting of the lamb tomorrow as a family and friends affair... Its a new reality that has me in tears as I write this. I was just joking about the dredging up memories part. It was not "dredging up". It was happily reminiscing. Although some of those guys are still idiots, LOL, they were and still are great friends! I dont do Facebook, but I do the old fashioned telephone call. We email each other from time to time though... They stop and visit the restaurant too. XMAS and Easter we always communicate one way or other!!!

Well...this non scandal cost them slightly in the image department in that the engine had reliability problems and those that bought Cadillac cars with diesels in them left them with a sour taste in their mouths concerning Cadillac cars that actually Cadillac still suffers from that bad image...and hence diesel scandal from my end. So...more of a fiasco rather than a scandal and I get that. But two sides of the same coin nonetheless.

That old VW (Rabbit? maybe? or was it the first time VW renamed it the Golf?) made me remember a good friend's dad's 1986 4 door diesel Golf and its cheap ass interior. Which was something like this. But people just loved to whine against Cavaliers of the time... Which was no better, but definitely not worse... Thanx @trinacriabob and @ocnblu for dredging up past memories of my dumb assed, German car loving, idiot Greek friends of mine. It is our Easter tomorrow which I might as well just call them up and wish them well...