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My my... You are very offensive against the Z06 and very defensive... Why?

Not that Im into numbers. Im not. Not that the BMW M5 Comp aint fast, because it is. ESPECIALLY like what you say. Its big. Its got 4 doors. But it does NOT make 0-60 in 2.6 seconds. It makes that metric in 2.8 seconds. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a36960485/2021-bmw-m5-competition-by-the-numbers/ 2021 BMW M5 Competition C/D TEST RESULTS 60 mph: 2.8 sec 100 mph: 6.7 sec 1/4-Mile: 10.9 sec @ 128 mph 130 mph: 11.2 sec 150 mph: 15.8 sec -------------------------------------------------- But there are 2 things with this. 1. Any given Sunday and these numbers will vary. 2. But most IMPORTANTLY, Car and Driver did the testing on the M5 Comp and THAT number is the best number THEY got for it on THAT particular day. Could be faster on another day. Could be slower. But 2.8 seconds is SLOWER than 2.6. BUT... Let us NOT forget that the 2.6 seconds comes from GM. GM ALWAYS gives us the performance numbers that are not THE fastest of what the car could actually do. That 2.6 second 0-60 time GM gave us is a CONSERVATIVE number. A number that any dolt driving the car could achieve. GM told us that the C8 Z51 did 0-60 in less than 3 seconds. 2.9 seconds they later said when they first released the C8. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-c8-corvettes-0-60-mph-quarter-mile-times/ According to Chevrolet, the official zero-to-60-mph time for Z51 cars like the one pictured here is 2.9 seconds, But CarandDriver when they did test it, got it to do 2.8 seconds on that particular day https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29458414/2020-chevy-corvette-zero-to-60-mph-tested/ and Road and Track in 2.7 seconds... https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a32105614/stock-c8-mid-engine-corvette-hits-0-60-in-2-7-seconds/ All to say that we could SAFELY say that the 0-60 times for the Z06 from CarandDriver and RoadandTrack could shave another second or two from what GM tells us the Z06 does... You really cannot NOT diss an American car, can you?

Yeah they will! You are forgetting that 1. The Corvette in general has had a LOYAL fan base TRACKING the car since the late 1950s... 2. The TRACK oriented Z06 model has had a LOYAL fan base TRACKING the car BECAUSE of the Corvette Racing program since the C5. The LOYAL fans, as much as they love that muscle car low end grunt of their Corvettes, they DO track their Corvette and with THIS engine, NOW they finally match the handling of a race car with the RIGHT and SUITED engine for tracking. The LS7 revved to 7000 RPM. They applauded that. They complained about the C7 Z06 BECAUSE it didnt REV that high and it wasnt N/A... 3. Corvette picked up quite a FEW new fans along the way with the C8. Fans that come from Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, McLaren. They LOVE the PUSHROD muscle car engine. But now, with this new LT6. They will feel right at home. So yeah! I dunno why you would wanna try to find negatives. There are none. Not with the 460 ft/lbs of torque. Not with the choice of using this engine. But...it aint a German car therefore it wont impress you. Like ever.

Z07 package I prefer the regular Z06. And its my favorite (exterior wise) C8 to date. In yellow or that tint coat red Chevy has I think Id prefer a 600 horse N/A LT1 with just about as much torques (600) in my fictional Z06 bodied C8. This is where a Grand Sport would have been, I think. Now, I think once more, an E-Ray Hybrid will take the place of the Grand Sport and will have about 600 hybrid horses in a Z06 body. Ill gladly hypothetically take that then.

Its finally here! 670 HP. The most powerful NATURALLY ASPIRATED V8. And it will probably BE that way! 460 ft/lbs of torque. It is a track car after all. In contrast, the LT6 5.5 liter revs to 8600 per minute. And what a song it sings!

Talked to my (our) lawyer today. Talked to a notary also. Not quite official, but it looks like major changes are coming. Maybe. Maye the course will right itself. Maybe it wont. Whatever happens, its not for now, but in the very near future. Bitter sweet situations as the other situation is very sweet indeed.

This teaser came out 5-6 days ago so me posting it now seems kinda pointless since there is just 1 more day left for the official reveal. Here it is anyway:

It has been a very emotional draining, life altering week. Two shocking events happened. One positive and one negative. I dunno what all this means. I dunno what will happen next. Ill keep you guys posted. Both events dont concern me or my family but both have the potential to affect us directly.

I was never fascinated by keeping and preserving patina on restored vehicles. I do understand and applaud this type of restoration. Im just not enamored by it. Do I think its "beautiful"? I guess it depends on the vehicle itself and how the patina ended up being and how the overall restoration and build was done.

^^^ Was the owner pissed like the GM owner was and vowed to never own a Toyoter ever again? 2 weeks ago, I had a long conversation with an employee's dad about cars. How his first car was a (forgot the year he told me) mid '70s Mustang II. How he bought it used in 1982 or 1983 and how it was the shyttiest car he EVER owned. (Keep in mind he told me it was his FIRST car ever...bought it used) Never told me what the problem(s) were and THAT was his 1st and last Ford product he ever bought...but it was the shyttiest car he ever owned and just by THAT experience of owning a USED car, that he swore off Ford forever...since 1982 or 1983 on a used mid 1970s Mustang II. Okay, not that the Mustang II was a great car or anything...but he told me he bought a Sentra (from Nissan) and never has he strayed away from Nissan ever since. Okay. A mid 1980s Sentra WAS a decent built car with minimal problems. He at least admitted to me that he has had a couple of recent Nissans with CVT problems and an Altima that Nissan replaced the 2.5 liter 4 cylinder due to a recall in 2004 or 2005. Most people glance over these things when dissing American cars and they talk about their Japanese or German cars they own... BUT... The problem is, he was telling me about his Nissan problems like its a normal thing. His speech about Ford and you could see the hatred towards American cars, NOT just Ford. Like how I stated it to @smk4565 earlier, its too damned bad the high standards he continues to put on Ford and never has he returned to buy a NEW one, that he doesnt hold that same high standard towards Nissan... Its quite astonishing to see that kind of logic... And its a logic that Im fed up with. (yet another thing I dont like to see and hear about car culture) Its frustrating. I apologize about the self hatin' American comments I made earlier. But its quite puzzling to me that Americans hold those high standards on their home grown products (and rightfully so), but TOTALLY ignore the piece of shyte cars the foreign makes have peddled to us and some of us do NOT hold the foreign makes accountable like how we boycott the domestics...

Wonder

I see a parallel between this video (not airplane) and this "Oh yeah! Real good!"

^^^ And column shift... Since on fossil fueled engines AND on EVs the shifter is a drive by wire affair anyway, there is absoluuutely no need to clog up a center console with a knob to put a car into gear. On the dash or a lever on the steering column like the good 'ole days would free up soooooo much space in that area where hips tend to be. And if bench seats DO make a come back, sexy time in the car up front would be soooooo much more comfortable than it is now. Yeah...just like the good 'ole days. Maybe songs (rock-n-roll hopefully) about cars and makin' out in them could also make a come back because of this little switch. And good 'ole love songs and rock ballads could make a return as a result of all that lovin' and soon enough, milkshakes at the drive-in burger joint with waitresses on rollerblades serving you at your car could also return. But alas...I wasnt born when all that magic happened when it did happen and if it ever came back, Ill be too damn old to enjoy it. Bah humbug!

LOL I edited the post into that pic because of a joke that was gonna fall flat. The joke was not good. So I panicked as for my edit time would not expire so NOBODY could read it so I google 'Silverado EV' and on the image side of things was that pic. So I posted it real quick. I did not get a chance to see what source it came from. I think...it was GM Authority website.

Book of love. And who wrote it?

They had the Volt Hybrid when they introduced the Bolt BEV. Seeing that they introduced a slightly bigger EV and named THAT one a Bolt EUV, maybe they could have just NOT used a new name called Bolt in the FIRST place, and JUST build off the positive image and great little car the Volt had done for itself and just named the Bolt a Volt <something or other> A family of Volts would have given Toyota and the Prius family some (same game) competition. But...they could go back to the Volt name with this latest debacle AFTER they fix the problem. Volt and Volt EUV. Sounds good to me!