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I saw a new 2021 Sonata today with that same exterior colour. I dont know how I feel about that colour. It left me speechless. 1. Because its such an unusual rare colour for a car, it was refreshing to see something so different from a sea of boring black, white and silver/grey. 2. BUT...who the phoque wants a grey primer paint job for their brand new shiny car? NOT ME I tell you!!!

V Series Cadillacs were not mentioned. Maybe the ones equipped with a manual transmission would be collectible. Maybe it doesnt matter what transmission a V Series Cadillac has...but these have got the potential to be valuable. In my honest opinion, other than the very exotic supercars and the super hot cars like the Hellcats and the one off Camaro and Mustang, and the occasional AMG Mercedes and M badged BMW might be collectible. Maybe an Audi V10 and Viper could be collectible, but other than those, I dont think cars after the 1990s have the potential to be collectible NOT because of the cars themselves, but of the people. Lets be honest, car guys and gals have been on a serious decline. The ones that are left are getting at the age where they are starting their childhood collections now. And those are the guys and gals that grew up as young kids and teenagers in the 1990s and played Playstation Gran Turismo video games and watched the Fast and Furious movie franchise. And the cars that were part of THAT culture are starting to become classics now. The Acura Integras, the Skylines, the Mark IV Supras, the Nissan 300 TTV6 and the like...and THOSE cars are from the 1990s. Very few 2000s cars are gonna be collectible. In the 1980s, you just knew that the muscle cars of the 1960s were gonna be collectible. They made a few movies that starred 1960s muscle. Gone in 60 Seconds comes to mind. We are in 2021. 20 years ago, Fast and Furious came out. Hence the Skylines, and Supras being collectible to a point today. Even the Buick Grand National Buick got a boost and is more sought after because of that movie franchise. But we dont hear too much about 1980s cars being sought after today. Well, the cars that came after the 2000s, there really is nothing that really grabs the attention that young kids and teenagers will want to re-live their young years when they will become 40 and 50 and 60 in a decade and two from now. V Series Cadillacs? Maybe. Vipers? Maybe. One off Camaros and Mustangs? Maybe. Do you see a Transformers Edition Camaro being a lustful car in a decade from now? I dont. Not even a mid 2010s Bullitt Mustang as THAT pop culture icon was for the Boomers. Not so much for a Millennial or Gen Z to collect a mid 2010 Bullit verison. Boomers in a decade from now will be in an age bracket that does not facilitate car collecting. Possibly a GT500 of any 2000s vintage and maybe the GT350 and the Camaro ZL1 has the potential to be a collectible. AMG Mercedes and M Badged BMWs and the Audi R10 V10 have the potential. 1st gen Miatas are at an age where if they would be collectible, their prices would start to go up and we would have some sort of buzz surrounding them, but alas, nothing. Therefore, these newer ones will not be special either. Dont laugh. Maybe Priuses... These have that weird factor that sometimes is necessary to be collectible cars. Ditto for a Kia Soul and Nissan Cube. Because it seems, todays youthful kids, dont seem to get excited for cars, and ther oddball Prius, Cube and Soul just might do if for them 20-30 years from now, but I doubt that as today's cars, since the 2000s, we treat cars as disposable appliances and hence why almost no cars from this era will be collectible, because today, we dont value them at all. We dont see these very same cars as exciting, so why would we value them in the future? We dispose of them today for something newer and shinier, we will just continue that trend in the future because we dont have any fond memoires for them now and we wont have any nostalgia for them them later.

I was a stop light the other day. 2 lane highway. After these lights, the highway opens up and there are no more lights for a dozen of miles or so. 70 KM/H (45 MPH) speed limit but folk drive 100 KM/H (60 MPH) and the cops usually let the traffic flow at those higher speeds...usually. In front of me at pole position was a Hyundai Ioniq of the year. To his left was a new of the year Nissan Leaf. In back of the Hyundai, there I was. Nobody else but us three. I said (to myself)..."GREAT! Im stuck behind two earth loving snails!" (Because I believed both would drive the speed limit and both would block both lanes in preventing me from passing...) To my surprise, when the lights turned green, they both jack rabbited their start and never let off the "gas". Its as if they were racing each other... (Not quite, but they both eagerly accelerated...) I was caught flat footed, but I immediately floored my Acura. It took a awhile for me to catch up and by that time, these guys were still accelerating. Let me tell you, for these EVs that are NOT Teslas in that both of these EVs are more 'geared' to be family oriented rather than speed statuts oriented, my Acura had to work hard JUST to keep up. I had more than enough power to surpass them, I think, because maybe they were not using all of their juice, and maybe my Acura did NOT have what it took to surpass them. Just goes to show you how fast EVs really are no matter what type of EVs were are talking about. It was quite fun just trying to keep up with them. Im sure they had the same fun I did. Luckily, no cops were around for us to see if they would let us drive at 60MPH and more...

I forgot that these even existed. I havent seen that many in my lifetime, maybe 2. Or was it the same one that I saw twice. I saw it when I was a kid. Anyway, thanx for the blast from the past! EDIT: Yeah, not that you need any validation from me, but the Canoo version DOES look a lot like the Veedub!

Nice truck, Balthy! May it give you years of loyal and reliable service! Enjoy!

Squeeze all you can from them!

My condolences.

You know what? BMW M3s and M5s of the 1980s could kiss my a$$!!! As much as I LOVE that GNX, and I wished the Olds Cutlass (HURST or 442) could have had something similar in performance, I soooooo want then and now, that dinky turbo-ed V6 in the 1989 Trans Am And this one actually handled the so-called twisties.... FROM the factory!

^^^ Hey...those are the UFOs... How did you get your hands on them from the Feds, or CIA or even the MIB?

Dont forget an insanely expensive, bland and dumpy 4-door... 100 000 dollars IN the mid-1980s I just felt left out of the slugfest that I too, wanted to fight for something, so I took a shot against the GNX. But in reality, I LOVE the GNX. I only merely like the AMG Hammer. Id take the GNX hands DOWN, all day, every day, and every night over the Hammer. But I DO like LOVE that the Hammer has a big (for mid 1980s) V8 under the hood. EDIT: I wanted to address this to @balthazar, but @surreal1272 didnt waste any time to...address that little thing called price. I was answering a call that @David was phoning in. He called, I answered. I hung up. OK...I may have slightly hinted that maybe a turbo, dinky V6 might not BE a N/A V8...but hey!!! 1987 Olds442 307 CI V8 Deal with it!!!

I aint sayin' nuttin'. Just answerin' dah queshion. Aight? https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15141447/mercedes-benz-amg-hammer-archived-test-review/ PRICE AS TESTED: $137,000 (base $125,000) ENGINE TYPE DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads Displacement: 338 cu in, 5547 cc Power: 355 hp @ 5500 rpm Torque: 388 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm TRANSMISSION: 4-speed automatic DIMENSIONS Wheelbase: 110.2 in Length: 186.6 in Width: 68.5 in Height: 54.1 in Curb weight: 3636 lb C/D TEST RESULTS Zero to 60 mph: 5.0 sec Zero to 100 mph: 12.0 sec Zero to 130 mph: 22.8 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.8 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.1 sec Standing ¼-mile: 13.5 sec @ 107 mph Top speed: 178 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 165 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g FUEL ECONOMY C/D observed: 15 mpg A good ole fashioned muscle car. But with a naturally aspirated V8. Unlike the GNX... (so I guess, the way I worded that last part, I AM sayin' sumtin'...)

As long as you show up with something like that, we (I) accept.

9000 lbs... Will the Silverado EV pick-up weigh the same? What about the EV F-150? 7000, 8000, 9000 lbs? Jeeeezus!!! If the weight dont come down, imagine these things getting into an accident with one another. (I aint talking about the battery aspect, but the sheer weight of these things) 14 000-16 000-18 000 lbs of force NOT including the speed factor with just a TWO vehicle collision. Man, a small multiple car pile-up on a highway with 3 EV pick-up trucks, 2-3 5000 lbs Tesla Model S/Porsche Taycans or Audi GTs WILL produce a mushroom cloud and you WILL feel a shock wave 3 miles away!!!

And also with regards to the other "dangerous" dogs that you mentioned. These types of dogs...is what David said: Dogs behave the way they have been trained to behave. Big, powerful dogs make good guard dogs, because they are big, powerful...and they can be trained. So they are what they are. Now...the part of turning when mistreated. What animal does NOT turn when mistreated? Dolphins are one of the most docile mammals on the planet. More friendly than humans even. Very playful with themselves and with humans. Piss one off and see if they wont kill you... Especially German Shepherds. They will protect not only their master, but their master's better half and kids. ESPECIALLY to the kids if that German Shepherd has had a relationship with the kids. And often to the detriment of the aggressor... Pitbulls are no more dangerous than a poodle. Pitbulls are very strong animals. And are very susceptible to be trained as an aggressive breed. And humans train them and mistreat them on PURPOSE on the SOLE purpose of these dogs to BE aggressive and to be killers. Not the breeds fault if we humans choose to be garbage masters towards this breed. If anything, its us humans that need to be re-evaluated with our intentions of what we are going to do with this breed rather than question the breed itself.

Late last night, I had a strange reaction. Something was not right. Something was off. It felt as if something was going on with my body. A transformation if you will. I yelled to my wife to get the phone and call 911 and then to start recording. HALFWAY THROUGH I TOLD HER TO GET THE KIDS AND GET THE PHOQUE OUT OF THE HOUSE!!! SHE AND THE KIDS DID NOT MAKE IT!!! At least that is what I thought... I just caught my son with his dumb ass friend embrace his new identity. This is what I captured (At least my son has good taste in music if not for any regards to his and anybody else's safety) Still dont know what happened to my wife though... Enough with the jokes... I woke up to a sore (left) shoulder where they vaccinated me. Feels like I took a punch to it. Nothing major. Same for my wifey. We both feel normal, which translates to we are both in great spirits.

The wife and I just returned from our 1st Pfizer vaccination. Our 2nd shot is September 3rd. Nothing to report just yet. (side effects). But then again, it has only been 45 minutes.

I saw THAT yellow Viper in that same aforementioned hardware store (from the Random Thoughts Thread) a week and a half ago. In April. Took a pic. Talked to the owner. Young guy. 26 years old. Bought it last fall from the original owner. Fixed the minor problems (clutch was slipping )and replaced the tires over the winter. Yesterday, it was a Mopar Muscle type day for some reason. Yesterday, I saw a red Viper like that yellow one, same generation, an all black, blacked out Challenger Hellcat, at night. Near the aforementioned hardware store. In the day, it was a purple 1971 Challenger that I encountered.

yeah. I kinda missed that part. Well, I didnt miss it. I glossed over it and forgot about it type deal. It is understandable. I agree.

I am more interested in how Chevy will sell the EV Silverado in terms what model will have the longest range. RWD or AWD? (FWD for regular, mundane Chevy EVs like a Bolt...Im assuming) Not just the Silverado, but all Chevy EVs. Its interesting to me how Tesla sells its most fastest versions with dual motors AND AWD. Because THAT is the intelligent way to go, you know, put all that instant torque to the ground with AWD and of course these will be the most expensive versions...you know...twice the motors, more battery power, more speed...will ALWAYS equal MORE money to acquire. But how THOSE versions ALSO have the LONGEST ranges... But Tesla's marketing has ALWAYS been about speed and performance. Chevrolet is NOT Tesla in that Chevrolet's have ALWAYS been about FAMILY. Dads and moms carrying their children and their groceries and all their family needs in comfort yada yada yada. There have been some fast family Chevrolet cars in the past, along with some legendary coupes like a Camaro, Corvette and Chevelle, but for the most part...speed and performance is not what Chevrolet stands for. I would assume that speed and performance kills range. Like with gasoline, it takes a lot of energy to produce speed. Energy that could be used for distance rather than speed. Software to manage battery juice to be converted into speed, which Tesla has an advantage over everybody, may not be so beneficial to Chevrolet with that kind of angle. Maybe, its in Chevrolet's best interest to have software to favour range rather than speed and performance for regular Chevrolet EV vehicles. But for Camaros, Corvettes and Silverados, maybe a Tesla approach is better? THAT is what Im more interested in rather than the price. We already know about the price factor...not a surprise there. IF Chevrolet pulls a 35 000 EV starting price Silverado...THERE is THE surprise. If its in the 40-50 thousand dollar range. Par for the course for EVs as of now...

I have googled several stuff, and I have learned that ATP for Chevrolet AND for the Silverado have soared these past few years. Chevrolet has had the HIGHEST ATPs in its 110 year history for 2020. In 2019, the Silverado had a $41 000 ATP and the Sierra was 48 000. This was in 2019. I read that those ATPs have since risen at about $1000 since then, but I did not find a solid number. I also saw that the Cadillac Lyriq will start at $59 000. Therefore, I will (safely) assume and come to a (logical) conclusion that a STARTING price for an EV Silverado will be at around $45 000. OK...I will take the GMC Sierra's ATP and boldly say that a STARTING price for an EV Silverado will be $48 000 give or take a couple grand. Affordable? Well...its all about what angle you wanna see that in.

What is the avg transaction price of a Silverado? Because I think GM will price the starting MSRP EV version at around that avg transaction price.

Tesla's longest range models (and fastest) are the AWD, dual motor models. Would this be a mistake if GM went with RWD as their longest range models for their pick-up trucks? Like Balthy said, regular folk would prefer AWD as the longest range model...

Saw my first real anti-masker in action in a hardware store yesterday. A real piece of work this guy. Had his young daughter with him too. Must have been no older than 5 years old. A manager told him to put his mask on his face (because it was dangling on his chin). Called him a phoquing fag. Told him to leave and he started a phoque-filled rant about god knows what. The manager then just went for his phone and what I think is he dialed 911. I heard the manager describe the guy while escorting him to the front of the store. The dude, was then saying to the manager, "You are such a tough guy! You are such a tough guy!" Keep in mind, all this in front of his daughter... I was watching his daughter and the poor girl, was confused. She was looking at her daddy with such a blank stare. The cops never came. I bought my Gorilla Glue, my Doktor Doom ant killer foam, my deck stain and a couple of paint brushes and went on my merry way.

^^^ Gotta get that 85 HP engine heat out somehow...