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That is suuuuch a longshot to try and say it is a Corvette with an SUV body. That would imply that the frame and chassis are also Corvette, which they are not.

...a Trailblazer SS is not a Corvette with an SUV body... It's a BOF SUV with a Corvette engine.

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Toyota_model-Land+Cruiser.html There are 145 pages at 30 results per page, 4350 movies/shows with Land Cruisers in them. Why does the origin of the vehicle matter? They're built and advertised as luxury vehicles 100% of the time since being on sale in the US. Do you have proof of the articulation of the modern coil over system? That is really the only advantage of a solid axel over independent suspension, from my knowledge. The Bronco comes REALLY close to matching a Wrangler in articulation but it still isn't the same as solid axels, strictly when you're talking about tackling off-road obstacles.

Do you frequent off road trails? You're lying to everybody here or you don't watch many/any movies. That's no different than Range Rovers, Wranglers, G Wagens, Raptors, etc. They're all used on pavement 99.9% of the time but that has no bearing on how capable they are off-road. I've never seen with my eyes somebody off-roading a G Wagen, but that doesn't mean the three lockers and solid axels don't work. And the Escalade is different from this description, how? Literally every BOF SUV fits this description.

I just can't imagine this will look all that great... I hope it does or I hope that I change my mind but this looks awkward as fck as of now.

What's overrated about a Land Cruiser? This is the first I'm hearing of it being overrated.

And the general public seems to care less about that. I feel like anytime I'm around people or hear people talking about new vehicles the old phrase of "just get a Toyota XXX, it'll last forever" comes up. They definitely still seem to have that reputation.

It sucks how late they are to the party but, this seems like a pretty awesome package. It's probably too small for me to ever consider going forward but I still like it.

Then it'll be nothing special.. They may not mention benchmarking those cars but they probably should do that as both of those SMOKE a Hellcat. So this seems like an awesome vehicle but without knowing some of the details, all I'm getting is a complete gimmick car. I know more details will follow but it would have been nice to know some performance targets, range, charging speed, hp/tq.

That's what the world needs, more Chrysler N/A 3.6L engines! ?

Nope, and this is a recent thing. It used to always be right about the rest of the area we live in, give or take $0.05-0.10. Since gas prices have been dropping, for the last month, they have just barely moved in town while all of the surrounding towns/cities have dropped significantly.

My town is weird high compared to everywhere around us. My town is 4.29/gal and I can drive 10 miles in any direction and it's like 3.89/gal for 87 octane. If I drove 30 miles into Missouri it's in the 3.49-3.79 ballpark for 87 octane.

I think I've only encountered a slow pump two or three times since I've been driving. The same station my wife had issue with, she had issues last week as well. I asked if it was the same pump and she said it's a different pump. She jokingly complained about it last week and I just assumed she was being a woman and exaggerating but when we were on the phone for 5 minutes and only pumped $6 worth of premium...that's basically a gallon of premium. 1 gallon in 5 minutes.. I also asked if she tried unclicking it and starting it over. She said she already tried that a couple times to no avail. It sure would be nice to not have to deal with that ever again. But then again, I'd deal with slow charging in public at some point, even though it would be rare for me.

So my wife was at a gas station just a few minutes ago and called me while pumping gas. The pump was pumping EXTREMELY slow but she pre-paid so she was sticking it out. We were on the phone for 5 minutes and it literally only pumped $6 worth of premium in that time span. I asked her, “you know what would fix this issue so it’ll never happen again?” Her, “no, what?” Me, “an electric car. You’d never need to pump gas again!” Her, “ugh, you and your electric cars…”

I think it looks good and all but all this is is a "hey, don't forget about me!" from Chrysler. Still three years off? Too much will change from everybody else to care about this one now. So the Hummer EV is vaporware because you don't see them on dealer lots?

Maybe your beef is with Dodge then, because they're the one advertising it as a track-ready car. The same can be said with Tesla and the Model S Plaid.

I just assumed that was 100% render that somebody threw together. I doubt whatever it is looks just like that.

The BEV Jeep is pretty intriguing. I wonder what size they're going with for their first BEV.

Those lights look fantastic! They're so white without any of the blue, which would look out of place on a car like this.

That feels a little ironic considering you seem to be pretty big into sustainability...

Maybe the Plaid or Hellcats shouldn't have "Track Modes" if they're supposedly not engineered for track work. We can also just take a look at their respective websites to see if they think they're not built for racetracks... Straight off Dodge's website: Straight off Tesla's website: This week, Plaid Track Mode is rolling out to Model S Plaid vehicles across North America. With Plaid Track Mode our goals were simple: achieve the quickest lap time for a production electric vehicle at Germany’s Nürburgring, and allow individual adjustability of stability control, handling balance and regenerative braking to give drivers more authority over vehicle control at the racetrack. Plaid Track Mode was developed to take full advantage of our tri-motor platform and more than 1,000 horsepower on tap, with features including: Optimized Powertrain Cooling Track driving generates an enormous amount of heat in the battery, motors, and brakes. Maximum track endurance is achieved by managing this heat to keep these components as cool as possible. When Plaid Track Mode is engaged, we drop the temperature of the battery pack and motors to create a significant amount of chilled thermal mass. Once track driving begins and heat is generated, shared coolant loops between the battery and motors keep the entire system cooler for longer. We also increase regenerative braking power, which has three major benefits: re-capture more energy during deceleration, reduce load on the friction brakes for better thermal management, and give the driver better modulation and controllability with a single pedal. Lateral Torque Vectoring Using the same foundation as Model 3 Track Mode, Plaid Track Mode relies heavily on front and rear motors to command rotation: additional torque applied to the rear axle helps turn the nose of the car into a corner; torque applied to the front axle arrests rotation to pull the car straight. Building on this principle, Model S Plaid’s dual rear motors enable full lateral torque vectoring. With Track Mode activated, Plaid automatically adjusts torque split across the rear wheels, independently, which applies a torque bias to rotate the car through turns; this increases turn-in response, improves on-center steering feel, and delivers even greater yaw control throughout a corner. Compared to traditional open- and limited-slip differentials, which must always compete between turn-in response and maximum traction, our electric motors adjust in milliseconds to give the driver both strengths simultaneously, allowing for faster turn-in, increased cornering speeds, and harder acceleration on corner exit. Adjustable Vehicle Dynamics During normal road driving, our stability control systems are optimized to limit tire slippage and maximize grip to keep the driver safe. In Plaid Track Mode, stability controls enter a race tuning to give the driver maximum control over the car’s lateral movement. With Plaid Track Mode engaged, Tesla’s Vehicle Dynamics Controller (VDC) evaluates steering angle, accelerator, and brake pedal inputs to determine where the driver wants to place the car and will permit tire slippage and automatically adjust torque split to give the driver even more authority and improved agility during high-speed cornering. For drivers who want additional adjustability over vehicle dynamics, handling balance, stability assist and regenerative braking can be changed independently based on their skill level and preferences. Adaptive Suspension Damping When Plaid Track Mode is engaged, adaptive suspension damping is optimized for track handling: reduced pitch during hard braking and fast acceleration, rebalanced damping to improve responsiveness, and faster settling of vehicle disturbances over bumpy segments to increase driver confidence. To facilitate consistent dynamic driving, ride height is set to Low on drive-off, and the suspension will no longer automatically raise to improve comfort. Performance UI We have added a track-focused user interface to provide critical performance data, including a vehicle thermals monitor, lap timer, G-meter, dashcam video capture and vehicle telemetry, along with several other customizable options. With Plaid Track Mode, we have added a host of new features to make Model S Plaid as quick around a racetrack as it is at the drag strip. Our approach focuses on allowing greater driver control and adjustability while promoting driver confidence, and like most aspects of Tesla vehicles, we’ll continue to improve Plaid Track Mode over time with future over-the-air updates. I don't think it will go completely away but I think it'll be awhile before there's a cheap sports car EV. There just isn't a business case for a 30k sports car that's an EV yet.

You can mask it, but it’s still there.

You’re comparing cheap sports cars, which do 0-60 in 6 seconds and saying there needs to be a light sporty electric car. The ones I mentioned earlier were the original Model 3 when it could be had with a much smaller battery and was supposed to cost at or around 40k. That car doesn’t exist anymore. How about cutting 12-16" off the vehicle and make it a two-door sports car? That doesn’t sound unreasonable to think that would cut 3-400lbs. If it were a two-seater, that would certainly get the 400lb out.

I don't think it would be difficult to cut 500lb off of a Model 3 to get to about 3500lbs. Actually, when they offered a RWD model, that wasn't long range, I bet that was right around 3500lbs and that's a sedan. I bet that could be made into a coupe with the same exact battery and motors therefore increasing its range AND its performance with the same parts. Their "standard range" battery and "standard range plus" battery in RWD form was good for 220 and 240 miles, respectively. That was also good for a 0-60 time of 5.0 seconds. That's a second quicker than an Ecoboost Mustang with the 10 spd.