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Holy smokes, I completely forgot about that! It seems like the kind of tech that would have been FANTASTIC in the large trucks for the last couple decades and it's a shame it went away.

The first thing that came to my mind was the first gen Escape Hybrid that seemed like a great vehicle and a little "ahead of its time" but they never actually took off. The Quadrasteer kind of falls into this category as well, especially with GM bringing it back with the Hummer EV and Sierra EV.

"Rakoto, Senior Engagement Manager – Global Automotive Practice Leader, and Ling, Senior Analyst – Automotive Knowledge Manager, note that Mercedes-Benz, Volvo, and Volkswagen are among the OEMs following Tesla’s lead in the use of mega-castings, in spite of the industry’s limited experience with the technology." https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2022/06/06/ducker-oems-show-interest-in-mega-castings-despite-many-doubts-about-their-performance/ After reading a bit about mega castings, the worry is if there is even the slightest damage, the vehicle is a total loss. It sounds like companies are going to get exactly what they want and that's disposable vehicles.

All of those reasons are why I said it is a VERY long-term solution and there are so many things that need to be sorted out before it can efficiently be used. I never said it would be feasible in the next 5, 10, or 20 years. But, I still believe it will be the very long-term solution.

Personally, I think the VERY long term solution will be hydrogen but I don't think we are anywhere close to that yet. It is, by far, the most sustainable energy source. They just need to figure out all of the...well...everything still.

There have been plenty of things that the US government has done poorly the last couple decades but I think forcing foreign auto companies to produce their vehicles here was a great move.

...Half the price of an EQS, luxury, good size.. Lyriq.

EXACTLY and this is one reason I think Tesla has been so successful. Their entire network of products all work together seamless and effortlessly by the user. One doesn't not need to be a tech savvy 25 year old to operate their car and charge it publicly. Every review of every other company dogs the public charging system and how their vehicles are matching up to the chargers. Teslas appear to be flawless charging publicly.

OMG, I hate all of that so unbelievably much. SOME of those style buttons are "okay" but they REALLY need to be used and placed correctly for me to not hate. Come to think of it, I think the GLB and GLC loaners that we've had have had those for the steering wheel controls. They were "okay" at best. I don't think either of us accidently changed anything while driving but I know my left hand (while sitting in the passenger seat) definitely hit something in the middle that muted or turned the volume way up and we had no clue how/what had happened. I think I had ever-so-slightly brushed the infotainment control in whatever way made those changes. This reminds me, I think I just read VW is getting rid of those buttons for real buttons on their GTI (and/or other models) because the steering wheel captive buttons are soooo hated. Good on them. This was actually one reason the in-laws went got an older(2017) GL over a GLS. There was way too much going on for them to try and figure out and they just wanted the vehicle to work for them. There's already a lot in a 2017 GL but the newer GLS and pretty much everything newer Merc, has too much going on for the "boomer" age group. My parents have a 2020 RAV4, or maybe 2021, and just a few weeks ago I showed my mom the auto function for the climate control. A lot of people just want their cars to freakin work. There are too many complexities in a lot of new vehicles.

He only mentioned the powertrain and I'm not really sure how it can be disputed. Lucid's range, power, and charge times are all top tier currently. 900v charging, 1111-1200hp, 520 miles of range. The vehicle as a whole isn't anywhere near as luxurious as the Caddy but, the powertrain/batteries seem superior. I watched a video review of the EQS SUV (I assume most everything inside is the exact same) and the whole captive "buttons" everywhere seems like a complete train wreck. Caddy got so much flack for that a decade ago.

Looks cool and all but that setup would yield them probably 100 miles of range.

But that is still commercial work. Just because it isn't a 100m/yr company, doesn't mean the use of the truck is no less commercial.

Why though? Just because they're expensive? They have the same exact underpinnings as a crew cab work truck.

Nothing about 754hp/785tq, 9500lb towing capacity, 1300lb payload, 6ft bed (with up to 9ft of maximum bed length), says it's a lifestyle vehicle anymore than an LT/LTZ Silverado/XLT F150/Denali GMC with leather seating. I guess, why is this considered a "lifestyle" vehicle while a current GMC Sierra Denali isn't? Or, at least, I've never heard it referred to as one.

Okay, our definition of a "lifestyle" truck is vastly different then. I completely disagree with your version of it and that's okay. My version is based on the manufacturer's intent, based on capacities/specifications/abilities and yours seems to be how somebody is actually using it.

A 100k Denali 3500 dually towing those things is considered a work truck but this isn't because...electricity? Just because they're hauling toys as opposed to a work trailer doesn't make it any less capable. There's nothing about this that says it can't do actual truck things, like a work truck. I mean, I agree that a 100k truck is RARELY going to be used daily for "work" activities but, that doesn't mean its capabilities are not up to par. IMO, saying it is a "lifestyle" truck takes away from what all it can do. A typical "lifestyle" truck has a weak payload, marginal towing capabilities, and don't need fancy or high tech AWD/4WD systems to match its ground clearance.

Being able to tow 9500lb in the top trim model seems way more of an actual truck than a "lifestyle" truck, imo.

So it isn't the grill that I'm not liking, it's the area where the headlights used to be. The rest looks pretty awesome.

I'm not a huge fan of that face but I bet it's a phenomenal vehicle.

Isn't that part of what flagship vehicles are supposed to do though, get people into other vehicles in their respective lineups? It should still make people want to be part of that brand and people will buy what they can afford from said brand. That's why Merc, BMW, Cadillac, Lincoln, Audi all have cheap luxury branded vehicles. Brand image.

You just get so feisty for no reason. That's been the difficult part for GM.

Like, you're going to be the internet police?

Calm down there, buddy. I know it isn't the same.

I don't think your car's 4 zone climate control is quite as detailed as this one sounds. I also think the OEM customizations that this thing will offer, and assuming the highest quality materials, will keep this thing above those much more conventional large luxury cars. There are EQS AMG's on dealer lots, according to Autotrader. More/bigger batteries along with more powerful motors. That's no different than dropping in a larger engine.

It's a pretty awesome to benchmark. I'd probably do the same.