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We both have to try and have the last word is the problem lol. And the same, I will respond to what I see as messed up statement that has nothing to really do with the article. This change makes sense.
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And i have said the Chrysler brand should be shelved, which I was surprised they announced 2 crossovers coming over. Dodge sells well though and i could see the Pacifica being a good fit there. Ugh, I would never choose a Titanium over the Sport, would easily give up a few options. it is just a great bargain for what you get. I did like the Fusion my brother had for a loaner when his caddy was being fix a few years ago (the 09 CTS). SE 2.0T with leather and sunroof. My only negatives were the FE, rear seat room, and the basic button loaded center stack, which is pretty improved for 17 if i remember right. The 2.0T had real ood low end, but I can only imagine what the 2.7T with AWD feels like. It is a slow day and it gives me something to do. And that makes little sense. If my opinions don't matter, then what is the point of even acknowledging them??
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If you don't care, then why even respond?
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It depends if they deserve being criticized. I would like to be able to have a convo about the actual article on FCA sometimes without your special form of doom and gloom. YOU DO IT IN EVERY DAMNED ARTICLE that even mentions FCA. In any case, I am done. I just want to discuss the article without all the negative BS, ok? Probably because Ford does different rebates for different trims of different models? or how they break their vehicles down? Sad about the Fusion, I love the Sport model, especially after gazing one in person. The rims and subtle fascia changes look really good.
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And it could all be totally the opposite for September and then even different for October. It happens.
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Ghibli is very loosely based on the LX already if I remember correctly, From what I can find though, it is basically the floorpan only which was new for the 11 model 300 and Charger to accept the 8 speed auto (they all share).
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Back on topic. I wonder if since they are using the Ghibli platform, will they bring over the 404HP TT v6 from that car to the Charger and Challenger? True and rebates change every month.
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LOL. Ya know, you hate a lot. I have stood up for GM, FCA, Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, and Honda,. i have posted positive reviews of the Colorado, Traverse, and other GM models. I am not anti-GM at all, in fact have owned quite a few. Same with Fords. It just gets old with the negative remarks everytims an FCA article is posted. They all have high rebates as shown. I expect everyone's rebates to only get higher from here on.
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Only because you dislike SMK lol. I have actually defended Chrysler, GM, and Ford in many posts here and elsewhere. I don't simply attack. You do.
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As is GM with the Silverado having the second highest rebates just behind the Titan. Another GM that received major updates for 16 and was new in 14.
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Don't know Sureal has to rag everytime a Chrysler article is posted anyway, it gets old.
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Not fighting facts, I am showing actual manufacturer rebates.
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I remember that and Ford had more than anyone in the top 10.
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LOL, stooping to dealer websites? try getting that car for that price. Go to the dealer and try it. When I was looking had a few dealers advertising crazy low prices like that only to find out either my region wasn't included or it including rebates that 99% of people aren't even eligible for. We were talking manufacturer rebates remember? Oh, gotta change off of that because your argument was losing steam.
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Nope, just proves they aren't immune, of course this is rebate season....... And there is usually a grand or considerably more depending on what you are purchasing.
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Still a huge chunk of cash on models completely redesigned only 2 years ago.
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Sorry, didn't look at the photos and I read your post as they were completely even. Still,2k for a car on the market 2 year vs 2250 on one going on 10 years. Says more bad about the Camaro anyway. And what is with 20% off MSRP on Cruze, Malibu, and Trax? 2 of those have on 2 model years under them as well. That is like minimum 4k off a Malibu and 3 grand of a Cruze tio 6 grand or more depending on model And nearly 11 grand on some Silverados before you even haggle with the dealer? They link wouldn't even be accurate any longer. Rebates are constantly changing. I will say Chrysler 300 rebates are crazy and make them a hell of a deal/. Priced out a Hemi 300S with basically every option for roughly 37k.
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You have actually proven MY point as I said "equal to or higher depending on model". That is actually impressive on the Challengers part considering it has been out MUCH longer than the Camaro. Realize also that there are different rebates and discounts depending on region. Me putting in my zipcode on the website could bring up wildly different discounts than yours.
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Genesis News: Hyundai Exec Says Luxury Brands Focus Way Too Much On Tech
Stew replied to William Maley's topic in Genesis
The Genesis cars are surprisingly nice. I am especially excited about the G70. My brother's luxury cars have indeed been high maintenance (09 CTS, 11 A5, and 15 ATS). I actually have him interested in the G70 with the 3.3 turbo 6 and AWD. Can't wait until it hits lots. -
Who knows. There have been spy shots of the 300 running Widebody wheels and tires. I do think it is interesting they have 2 crossovers coming for the Chrysler brand, I figured the brand would be killed off honestly.
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Chrysler's minivans always sell. If anything holds back the Pacifica it is the bargain basement Grand Caravan still being offered. The 300 is still selling well for a fullsize car and it completes a trifecta of 3 (Charger, 300, and Challenger) that go together to make production numbers what they need to be. They are selling more than enough of each to make a good profit.
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Nope, not dealer rebates. These are manufacturer rebates factored in on the Chevrolet website, NOT the dealer website. How is the Pacifica in a sales decline? Actually how is the 300? Both sales seem pretty steady.
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Acptually my information comes from www.chevrolet.com and www.dodge.com. GM is the same or higher discounts on comparable vehicles. If you have a problem with that........ I would be completely fine with a base R/T with the new handling package, 8 speed auto, sound group, and sunroof. Lots of standard features (ditching the puny 5.0 screen for the 7 incher makes a hue difference in the interior aesthetics of the base cars). In destroyer grey or Granite [please. Or worse. Much more excited about the ecodiesel than I ever would be a hellcat in a Wrangler.
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Do you even read? They are moving to the Ghibli platform. Probably cheaper and better suited for their larger sizes o be honest.
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There are people who already want a 300 Hellcat, so it is a no brainer. I find it interesting as aI was reading a review of the midsize M6 Gran Coupe and that sucker was 4300 pounds and the AWD tester it was being pitted against was an Alpina and over 4700 pounds! Weights are similar with the E Class. The weight is currently easily inline with other RWD cars, even a size smaller. I have no problem with them keeping the LX platform around. It is proven, it dances with anything in it's size rane, and all of them look great. The offer all the modern safety features ie lane keep assist and emergency braking/adaptive cruise control, and all the comforts such as high quality leather, 8.4 inch touch screens, heated and ventilated seats, etc, etc. I love the fact that for 2200 you can get the 6 piston Brembos and the wider 275 tires on any 6.4 model, and for 18 the Challenger R/T offers the 4 piston Brembos with a bilstien performance suspension. This should also be available on the Charger R/T as well and possibly the 300S (the 18 Challenger is the one you can price out on their website so far). I also like that they are getting rid of the 5.0 uconnect for the new Uconnect 4 with the 7 inch screen as standard (Uconnect 4 with the 8.4 is still an option). Not to mention standard Android Auto and Apple Carplay. And the "aging" Challenger has outsold the Camaro so far this year and even outsold the Mustang last month. The Charger and 300 make up the bestselling fullsizers, outselling the Lacrosse and Impala Combined. They aren't as stupid as you think. And please do not even try to say it is just rebates. Checking here, on the Chevrolet webiste for example, their rebates are just as high, if not higher.
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