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First five years of Tesla sales and production issues for 1000 Alex. You do have a context issue. Put the Tesla Pom poms down and tell us how “well” Tesla was doing the first 5 years of mass production. Make sure you include their “fine” quality and “reliability” standards that have been a part of Tesla since day one. Go ahead. Give the truth a shot for once.
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Stop moving the damn bar FFS. Your posts was about price drops and I gave it to you. No mention of tax credits prior so you don’t get to bring it up now. Again, Tesla is on their 3rd price drop in the last four months yet their lackluster quarterly reports shows that it did not help them beat their expected numbers, end of story because that’s where this nonsense started before you started with your apples to oranges BS. No amount of talking about tax credits changes those facts.
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It has become my life's mission to see this band live. A complete throwback to the 70s but, in this case, that is not a bad thing here. Just pure groove and live, they just peel your ears back. The vocalist Jay Buchanan is the real deal in an era of phonies IMO.
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Since you want to keep at it, here you go, Mach E price drop of up to $5700. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42705579/2023-ford-mustang-mach-e-prices-drop-increased-production/ AND AGAIN, Tesla had been jacking up their prices for the last four years so I'm sure what argument you are trying to make but I'm pretty sure it's not the one you think it is. Again, Tesla kept doing that for years until they actually made a profit but somehow with others, this is the damning issue to you. BTW, one word for you, "inflation", something even your favorite brand had to realize, hence all of their price bumps. https://www.carscoops.com/2022/08/mercedes-increases-prices-for-most-2023-models-g-class-leads-the-way-with-an-8150-hike/
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Ummm, many others ALSO cut their prices but maybe you missed that memo. How predictable is it again, knowing the actual facts now? It just amazes me how you think Tesla exists in this mysterious sales vacuum where only they have done certain things, like drop prices. The price part laughable since it was Tesla that ALSO started the trend of jacking up prices for no other reason than to pad Elon's wallet. The profit stat proves that. Funny how you don't mention how that practice led to the lower price tactic.
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Because he, again, skips context. Per a 2021 article: "Mercedes-Benz was the most profitable car company last year, putting nearly $26 billion on the bottom line. But last year Mercedes spun off its heavy-truck business and booked that as a $12.3 billion profit. That’s a one-time windfall event that’s not going to happen again. So, if you strip that out Mercedes would move down to sixth place. Ranking second is Toyota, with tidy net profit of more than $19 billion, and Ford is right behind it with $17.9 billion. But last year Ford boosted its profits with a one-time windfall of Rivian stock worth more than $8 billion. Take that out and Ford would move from third to seventh place." Source:https://www.wardsauto.com/industry-news/numbers-tell-story-who-s-best-car-company-world That covers ALL companies and ALL cars (ICE and EV), while yours deals with just EV related margins. Either one puts Daimler farther down than claimed. Case closed. Moving on back to the RAM...
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Well that's a neat trick seeing as how they just did a few months ago and it led to what's in the article above, regarding their production versus sales. In other words, it didn't lead to more sales. Again with the apples and oranges.
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I wonder just how much more "brand image" Tesla will have left with incidents like this @smk4565? https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/04/06/if-youre-a-tesla-owner-employees-might-be-sharing-your-camera-recordings If I was a Tesla, I would light that company up, legally speaking. Miles on EV mode isn't the only reason why they called it that. Overall, it is a much better car than it replaces and would be nicer overall than the Volt, at this point.
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And? Most everyone had a struggle with 2022. Just set the bar back down. You don’t get to move it with your endless excuses. Fact if that if it was a loss instead of the gain that it is, you’d be tagging them for it. Meanwhile, proof of Tesla demand drops are given and you are eerily silent.
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Really? That’s your latest apples to oranges comparison. That is utter horse$h! and you know it but let me spell it out for you. The Model 3 has FAAAAAR less overall competition than any ICE model from Toyota or Chevrolet. It is interesting to note that GM saw an 18% bump in the 1st quarter of this year but hey, I guess it’s easier to cherry pick just one model and compare it against unrelated models. Good grief.
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Drew already pointed it but it mostly a joke anyway, and one that wasn’t too far from the truth for the “best or nothing”. And it’s $37,500 for that GLA. That’s not true either. FFS man, if you’re going to make Tesla out to be so great, make sure it’s backed up by facts. Even after a price drop, their “demand” was off. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/04/02/investing/tesla-sales/index.html
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True stat without context, like the fact that production was halted to address the battery issues. If you’re going to make this case about sales and their correlation to prices, then make sure you give complete context when you do it. Think of it the same way you do when Mercedes doesn’t meet certain expectations.
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True but he has made that $30K statement for the last few years so it was fair to point out the flaw in his statement lol.
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What part of "moving to EVs' are you not getting here? Does the simple concept elude you so much that you, again, have to make up this phantom about advertising and marketing timeframes? Seriously? How long has Benz been promoting the still not for sale Project One? Or how about thew G-Wagen? First shown off by Mercedes September 2021 and still prominently on their website. Again, you spend post after post complaining about other companies tactics while avoiding the fact that ALL brands (including your favorite) do this and have been doing this for decades now. Give it up already. Again, until that 3 year delayed truck is actually on sale, we can talk about "scale". Judging by it's most recent testing though, you have WAY higher hopes for it's success than just about everyone else lol.
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You mean the company that hasn't changed the design of their first sedan since it came out in 2013 (save for bits and unnoticeable pieces)? It's 2023 and we talking 2025, a whole TWO years. I've seen longer future talk and any number of companies since well, ever. That is not a new practice. It only seems that no because companies are attempting to push a lot of product in a relatively short period of time. About the delays hell, it could show up one year late and still be ready to actually sell before the Cybertruck (a joke but I'm really not that far off). As long as they don't have a Tesla like delay with it, they will be fine. EV dude. EV. That is why. They spent billions on EVs so advertise now, not two months before it actually comes out like old GM. It's not rocket science.
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Kia News: Kia Reveals Full Details on EV9, Reshaping SUV User Experience
surreal1272 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Kia
I will agree to disagree because the entire shape is the problem to me and most folks out there, apparently. Nothing about the exterior design screams “best or nothing”. And the entire rear three quarter resembles the S Class about as much as a jellybean resembles an S Class (it doesn’t). Just slimming down the hood does not help it look anything like the S Class. Two completely different designs. But back to the EV9… -
Kia News: Kia Reveals Full Details on EV9, Reshaping SUV User Experience
surreal1272 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Kia
The funniest part is how he thinks the high cowl on the Jellybean twins is the only issue with them. -
The new interface and system is all Google software ( a big "yikes" for me) and yes, excluding CarPlay is a huge mistake.
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Kia News: Kia Reveals Full Details on EV9, Reshaping SUV User Experience
surreal1272 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Kia
True but it also applies to Luxo snobs. Same principles. -
Kia News: Kia Reveals Full Details on EV9, Reshaping SUV User Experience
surreal1272 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Kia
That's exactly my point in regards to the same person who always asks the same question, at this stage of development, and then speculates when he doesn't get the answer he wants (even when it's just not there at the time) while knocking any price point he perceives to be "too high" because in encroaches on Mercedes territory (oh the over-compensation issues here lol). This "analysis" goes for EVERY brand not coming from Daimler. That's my issue here. -
Kia News: Kia Reveals Full Details on EV9, Reshaping SUV User Experience
surreal1272 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Kia
Common sense? You mean the price question he asks for everyone else but one manufacturer? How about we actually wait on the price before delving into your analysis about what car is worth what money (again, for every brand but one)? The only thing known is that early estimates have it around $55K for the base model. That is it. Nothing more. -
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Polestar SUV, Third EV is the Start of a Much Bigger EV Story
surreal1272 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Polestar
Exactly. It's almost like it makes sense to do this in order to spread word about the brand, something sorely missed by Mr. "it's not a Mercedes" like anyone outside of the Daimler fanboy club gives two s**ts about the Polestar NOT being a Mercedes. Good grief. -
Okay so you have insulted 3 out of the 4 (at damn near every turn) and the only reason for not bashing Tesla must have to do with stocks because it sure isn't because of the quality of the auto. Cadillac had FEWER sedans than Mercedes. It's like David said, and anyone who is not Mercedes fan looking for yet another chance to bash any American car company NOT named Tesla, it was lack of marketing more than anything else.