surreal1272

According to whom?

Exactly. Easy to confuse the two when the Best or Nothing chose “nothing” as far as efforts to give these truly distinguishable names from their ICE counterparts. Strange how that is never brought up by the same folks who deride Cadillac for their naming schemes.

My error but I’m still not far off of the overall look. Still looks “soapish” lol. Glad you were there to speak for SMK though lol.

That's what I am gathering form reviews. No doubt, they went in with tech in mind and it shows and that's what is expected from a company like Mercedes. Where they did not go in, apparently, was on the visual aspect and no about of fanboy growing over it changes that fact. All this attention to the interior (too much with that hyperscreen if you ask me but to each their own) but completely dropping the ball on the exterior is simply baffling at this price range.

Umm, I'm guessing you didn't read the part about the EQS stating the smallness of the interior in an S-Class sized package. Seems to me, in this case, a frunk would be a plus, which I positive you would be touting here had they actually included one. Way to show that fanboy card here. That is a whole other level of denial to act like its shape is anything other than a boring looking piece of worn bar soap. Just about every publication out there has stated or alluded to the same issue with the exterior of the German bar of worn soap. And don;'t give us this nonsense about drag coefficient. Hyundai gets great range out of their EVs and none of them resemble the bastard love child of a worn out bar of soap and a disinterested jellybean.

Just a small sample of past super and hyper cars that never made it here yet SMK insists that GM produce their own legal risk on wheels. https://www.hotcars.com/these-supercars-were-banned-from-the-united-states/ https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/10/top-10-amazing-cars-you-can-t-drive-on-the-street.html

Are you high? No trickle down tech at all? Not a single thing? Guess all those GM racing programs are just for $h!s and giggles? I'm guessing it never occurred to you that there is more than one way to pass down this tech. You don't have to waste money on a niche super volume car that only 50 people can afford when you have a proven formula behind other programs that lend this trickle down tech. And let's not forget, since you brought up the 959, that a fair number of the hypercars and such are not even legal in this country. Why would GM aspire to that exactly? From the 959 to the AMG Project One, these provide some sizzle and bragging rights for said companies but what good is it if you can't even sell them in a large portion of the industrialized world? Why would GM EVER want to gamble with that when their racing programs already fill the "trickle down tech" void?

And what if dog dung tasted like a cherry sundae? Again, the only one who seems to care is you. No matter how many times the actual point(s) has been made on one thread, you still wash, rinse, and repeat that same non-sense on yet another thread.

Which I totally get but that didn’t stop someone else here from trying to use your hypothetical as validation for his continued phantom issue where the Vette is concerned.

A lot of wishes and fishes here but the dream of seeing another performance model above the Vette is just that, a dream IMO. We will just skip the fact that GMs possible ace up the sleeve here is a ZR1 that could be 90% of what I see being asked for here (like weight reduction). As stands now though, any performance model above the Vette will still be called a Vette, in one form or another.

Or you could just stop beating this particular dead horse. BTW, that Ferrari wastes most of that near 1000HP with that paltry 590 foot-lbs and for MORE than double the money of said 911. And why in the hell would GM waste R&D dollars on another ICE sports car that YOU want to be above the Vette (when it is clearly NOT needed) when they are going all EV? At that point, that little Italian trash will be as irrelevant as the horse and buggy. Just stop this stupid crusade of yours already. It's just old, dumb, repetitive, and just beyond any further explanation at this point.

My greeting from Mother Nature this morning. Not at all amused by this.

The big 5-0oooh my freakin Jesus! Thanks lol!

Europe. And these “problems” are merely perceived by you without basis of fact. And you should really read this. https://www.metro-magazine.com/10112565/best-and-worst-cities-for-commuting-on-public-transportation End of this particular discussion for me.

Because we “need” dealerships. https://www.yahoo.com/news/dealer-falsified-people-income-could-000320918.html And I’m just saying (for the last time), see Europe as an example of your faulty language logic where it applies to our public roads. Your bar moving here does not change that fact. Sorry.

You clearly have not had to deal with public transportation daily if you believe that. I have and it was simply not possible for me to rely on it, in Phoenix. Plenty of buses but one key thing you are missing here. Distance to work. When I lived in Peoria (15 minutes west of Phoenix, I was looking at busing from there to my job in Phoenix. The bus time alone would have consumed 3 hours my day whereas just driving there was less tan 40 minutes total each day. 20-30 stops in said route created that problem and solidifies the following point. Time is money and so are the simple logistics of just getting to work and back. For many folks, that time means everything, if you have a family to support and want to actually spend time with them, not to mention the sheer logistics of things like childcare and such when you are relying on the bus. Sorry, but your version of "idealism" here runs smack in the face of realism for most folks.

BTW @David, if you want to pass some blame here, start with the US itself circa the 1970s when we not only rejected the metric system, but a universal pictograph system used in just about every other country in the world. The U.S., Canada, and Australia were the only three that said no so if you want to start with us first before saying it's a non-english speaking immigrant driver problem. Europe has dozens of different languages across the continent yet drivers can drive from Germany to Italy, from France to Greece, with no issues with signs because of the standardized pictograph system in place there.

Correction: ”Notice how that has nothing to do with BEING able to speak English or not.”

Notice how that has nothing to do with able to speak English or not. The problem is overpopulation and suburban sprawl. After seven years in sprawl hell Phoenix, they can have it. However its driver problem is due to too many drivers in one area (again, sprawl). Testing should occur regularly but that, again, has squat to with language.

And literally none of that is predicated on one’s ability to understand English. And feel free to look up California if you think there wouldn’t be economic repercussions for what you’re suggesting.

Literally every drivers Ed handbook points to signs as being designed to be understood regardless of writing (like the color red means stop and yellow means caution). No offense but I’m not going to indulge this further because every country does this with their road signage and for mostly the same reasons. The line is drawn with every drivers license test. If the pass the test, they get the license. Again, a lot of your complaints as just as common with American drivers as they are for non-English speaking drivers.

Some faulty logic there as signs on the road are mostly pictographs so that English is not an issue. The issue of non-english speaking drivers has more to do with the driving habits of their homelands (one drive to Tijuana back in '93 taught me this lol). There are folks who speak supposedly perfect English that can't drive for $h!. Your remark about Law, Medical, and Fire is faulty as well because there could be non-english speaking passengers (even if the driver speaks English) that may need to speak to them yet you're not calling for that to be gone. What if said driver died and you only have non-english speaking passengers to communicate with? I get your core point but it A.) will never happen and B.) will cripple the economy since there are millions of non-english speaking folks who and WORK and now you are saying they should not be able to drive to their jobs because of their lack of English speaking. Sorry but that does not fly, legally or morally.

Great idea but that Sierra front end on what would be a Canyon does not work at all IMO. Makes an otherwise nice concept render look tacky.

An early Christmas gift and newest addition to the vinyl collection, Tool "Fear Inoculum". 90 minutes of Danny Carey percussion godliness.

Giving me old vibe flashbacks of my '89 MR2 (circa 2000-01), non-supercharged though.