surreal1272

Thanks for never disappointing.

In honor of your content need to move the bar...

Which has nothing to do with the concept part of Davids post. Absolutely nothing.

By your logic, Mercedes should not be able to succeed with EVs, since they've never sold one before a few years ago. Keep being proven wrong by Genesis though lol.

And treating all things equal, there is no business case these days for 3 coupes and 3 convertibles and sales data backs this up. (Knocks goalpost down and heads off for some good eatin’)

Umm, the other three articles highlighted only the stock G-Wagen. The one Cherry Picker brought up was the outlier. The bigger point in all the article is that the G-Wagen was not considered the best off-roader. Thanks for playing.

Of course, the bigger message here is about Genesis and not Mercedes fanboys and trolling by the usual suspects. I don't like all the designs here but, overall, I like the aggressive approach to the market shown by them. I do dig the coupe. The profile reminds my of the 1990s BMW M1 (about the only BMW I have liked over the years).

"I'm not trying to be an asshole but..." By all means, make your childish joke while ignoring the OVERALL (and proven) message.

So, just move the bar (yet again) when you get called out on the facts? Got it. This is what you said, "And probably because Mercedes does the best luxury car, best off roader, and hypercar, they hit all the pillars. Notice no mention of "sports cars" or "convertibles" or any mention of "X" brand not having them (which is wrong BTW since, again, Benz competes with GM as a whole and not just Benz and has the other two covered with the Vette and Hummer EV). Either stick to your original statement and admit you may be wrong or saying noting at all (perhaps) but stop moving the bar to try and convince everyone (yet again) that Mercedes is so superior when they are clearly not.

Again, you one fanboy opinion versus the well researched opinions of folks who have actually driven and tested them. Gee, whom do I choose to believe here?

Again, not the point. Maybe you missed that. And you don't get to play internet posting police after your many accusations towards me about it, end of story.

What to miss the point made to SMK by a country mile. Yes, the third one is a bit silly but it was one of three that showed that various publications (and there were more) don't feel the G-Wagen is the best off roader as SMK states. Your cherry picking of this does not change that fact. Since you wanted to troll it though, here is another article detailing their top list and the Benz doesn't even crack their top five. https://www.iseecars.com/articles/best-suvs-for-off-roading

Instant contradiction. So your reasoning for this worldwide sales "dominance" is because of three vehicles that are extremely "low volume" and sell less in one year than their VOLUME C-Class sells in one month? Sorry, but that's not how it works at all and you know that. Man, your fanboy logic knows no bounds but the contradiction is right there for all to see. BTW, all three examples are BEYOND simple fanboy opinion. Two of the three (and possibly all three) are definitely NOT the best. The G Wagen doesn't even crack the top 3 here. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/best-cars/top-10-best-4x4s-off-road-cars or here... https://www.truecar.com/best-cars-trucks/suvs/off-road/ or here... https://www.hotcars.com/best-and-most-overrated-off-roaders/ Again, your fanboy opinion is just that...opinion and not even one supported by reasonable data.

What the fanboy doesn’t understand is that he, once again, is trying to upsell Benz by touting their worldwide sales while ignoring why. It’s because they have to sell in volume whereas Cadillac does not (it has been explained a thousand times why this is so I’m not going to dredge it up here again). That doesn’t mean they are superior much less the “best or nothing”. Keep wanting to charge folks monthly to unlock features they should only have to pay for once, and they won’t even have the volume to lean back on.

There is literally everything wrong with them doing it, starting with bull$h! greed on an already $100K car.

No, no, and just hell no! "The Best or Nothing". If this is going to continue to be the Mercedes motto, then I will always choose "nothing". There is simply no way in hell that ANY car company should be getting away with this and more so, customers should not accept this as a potential new norm. Ask BMW how potentially charging customers for Apple CarPlay worked out for them? https://www.motortrend.com/news/mercedes-benz-eq-power-upgrade-ota/

Pure fanboy opinion with no basis of fact. And it should be noted, regarding the naming schemes and made up words, that ALL words have been made up at some point.

You for the last "how many ever" years: "Cadillac should ditch the letter and number naming and go back to actual names" Also you: "No. Not those names." And you wonder why some folks here can't have a reasonable discussion with you.

He won’t acknowledge that to the same level that he hurls phantom criticism towards Cadillac. Just more Mercedes fanboy loving nonsense.

Again, absolutely ZERO business case for GM and hybrids, knowing what we know now. Toyota has an obvious business case for it. It's that simple. Beating this dead horse will not change those two facts.

Best looking Prius by far yet this is all I see when they show the profile and 3/4 rear view. Just slightly more stretched.

If the Slade was able to actually keep its nose down at launch, it might be a much closer race. Launch control for the Durango aside, that front end lift was the biggest reason for the loss by the Escalade.

Have driven the 2nd gen Talon TSI AWD a few times and that car was a blast to drive. The AWD in that really got it off the line in a hurry and greatly improved the handling over the FWD only models. I loved my Talons but part of me wishes that I had pulled the trigger on one of those TSI models. The only reason why I didn't was because I didn't need the temptation of collecting speeding tickets as a career choice lol.

Given the low volume nature of it, it’s understandable lol. The dealership I worked for back in 2018 had a used one that was a stick. Had to drive it around the lot because the salesman couldn’t drive a manual. An absolute sleeper ride that I would have loved to park in my driveway. Here’s one in my area for sale… https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/lp/search-Chevrolet-SS-manual-sc2_d2217#listing=339704762/NONE

The SS most certainly had a stick as well.