surreal1272

Why are equating the EQS with the AMG versions of it. I am not talking about AMGs at all. I am talking boat EVs period. Mercedes didn't start at the bottom with theirs yet there was zero criticism from you regarding that, a standard you do not apply to everyone else. You weren't even right about GMs plan ($100K trucks first when ccap showed you the exact opposite of that). Mercedes first EV wasn't $40-50K. It was $100K+ for its BASE model EQS.

Notice the brand that is missing from your criticisms? I'll give you three guesses but I'm betting you only need one. Their new EVs have started, decidedly, from the top as well yet (and hence why your bar moving AMG reference doesn't fly here)... Full stop.

Are we sure about that? https://www.motorbiscuit.com/harley-davidson-motorcycles-arent-nearly-reliable-yamaha-according-consumer-reports/ Not saying they are junk but even if they have improved over the last 20 years, apparently so has everyone else.

Removed a word ("to') and learned a valuable lesson about posting before completing my first cup of coffee. Carry on.

Funny. When GM was introducing 100K EV trucks a few months ago, there wasn’t this same leeway given to them that you have presented to for your favorite brand. I wonder why?

And I can get any base Mercedes far cheaper than their AMG versions (with larger price gaps in some cases) yet... In other words, what is your point? That literally applies to ALL cars with multiple hi-po versions of it. Be careful saying things that make sense. He is prepping that bar for movement as we speak.

Yes they did skyrocket but again, crickets chirping on those subjects. Also, given the numbers the E-Ray is going to be put out, by all accounts it should cost MORE than the Z06 but as I said earlier, it was smart of GM to NOT do that because now you have equal choices for the old school crowd AND the new school crowd. There is literally nothing wrong with the E-Ray price being $30K higher than the base Vette. It's that simple and not one person here needs to explain to the Mercedes fan why that is so since he clearly is not interested in any actual facts, only that Chevrolet just slapped an electric motor to the rear wheels and called it a day.

Okay, civility is done here. Are you out of your damn mind? Did you really equate the E-Ray with what Toyota does? Just stop commenting if you're going to do nothing but make troll statements like that because it is not grounded in reality in any way. You clearly HAVE NOT read all the details of this particular hybrid and it shows. A lot of folks give your fanboy remarks here a wide birth here but not when you say completely asinine stuff like the above remarks. If this were a Benz, you wouldn't have $h! to say here because you spend far less time on threads about your favorite brand than you with anything NOT Mercedes. Think about that for more than a minute. Okay, back to civility lol.

Really? You can get an extra 155HP and AWD on a $70-75K Vette? That must be news to me…and Chevrolet. Sorry but you can’t cherry pick your way through this one. I personally seem zero issue with the E-Ray pricing here. Think about it. The E-Ray opens up the Vette to a new batch of buyers who might not want to roll in a RWD only Z-06. It’s called “options” and by keeping them at similar price points, they can appeal to both buyers without the uptick in price for the “privilege” of electric.

And again see above statement, by an actual Corvette engineer, as to why you really need to stop beating this dead four banger horse where the Vette is concerned. Not even as an option.

You were doing fine until you mentioned "turbo 4". Full stop on that silliness. I want you to pay special attention to the following statement made by an actual Corvette engineer. "Why isn't there an electric motor somewhere in the rear of the car? There simply isn't enough room between the engine and transmission, and the team wasn't about to go down to a V-6, says chief engineer Josh Holder."

Correction: That should read "Well hell. The next step towards an EV only Vette is finally here."

Well hell. The next step words an EV only Vette is finally here. Adding AWD to this setup is going to make it a beat on the track! I want to see some raw numbers on this one.

I take Consumer Reports with a huge grain of salt. Any publication that has Audi AND BMW on a "most reliable" list deserves a little scrutiny.

I could have sworn there was a discussion about brand naming schemes and how some companies just keep changing their names and diluting their brand, not so long ago on this very site. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/mercedes-benz-to-drop-eq-brand-for-ev-220753279.html

Thanks. It's only been in the last five years that I have decided to move my health into my top 10 lol when it should have happened the first time I tore my right knee (at 19) playing football (not organized Football) and not getting it looked at. The lessons learned are many. I agree. See above response as to why.

Sometimes you get the MRI. Other times the MRI gets you. Probably going to have way too much down time this year due to not one, but two different hip surgeries (left and right) in the cards this year. Ugh but if it takes away the pain, it'll be worth it. Just throws a monkey wrench into some of my creative endeavor plans this year.

I know that scene so well! Red Forman is my hero lol. I also have that exact car as a Matchbox car... and it sits right next to... And yes, even at 50, I am still a big kid when it comes to cars.

Agreed. They must have shared a beer or two with the design folks over at Daimler before coming up with this.

To be fair, I am not either one of them. That’s just him wanting to argue with himself because he sure as hell doesn’t want to simply listen to someone.

Whatever man. What you find "dumb", I found appropriate for the moment. That's why they're called "emoji's" or "reactions", neither of which require any kind of wording on my part, if I so choose. Sorry that bothers you so much that you have wasted half a page "not calling" me out but it's your issue and yours alone. All this has done is proven why I didn't engage earlier. Did you pick up on my statement to not engage with you on your first post, even after he has now stated said thing twice? Seriously. Move on.

(Tags poster while claiming he wasn't "calling him out" and after being told that said person did not wish to engage and that it was nothing personal, continues to engage) Your insistence here is why it's not worth engaging with you on the matter. Again, nothing personal.

Nothing personal. Just didn't agree with every facet of your post so there really wasn't a need to try and call me out. That is all.

No and nope. No bar moving allowed here. You said ALL MEDIA feel this way without providing even one source of this. Meanwhile, I provided not one, but two sources that DO NOT have the S-Class as the best. I don't care about your personal opinion on it. No one here is surprised by your assertion that it is the best. However, that's not what you said above so stop moving the damn bar and just accept that not all believe as you do, including much more qualified automotive media folks. SMK-"The S-Class is the best luxury car in the world, the gold standard." (Rolls Royce after reading this)

That is not proof unless you want to start providing that long list of media that believes this. Remember to cover the last 40-50 years. Don’t worry though. I’ll help you. Let’s start here, shall we? Mercedes is not the best luxury car on this particular list so I guess it’s not “all automotive media”. Maybe next time, lay off the fan laden superlatives that are easily debunked. https://www.globalbrandsmagazine.com/top-9-most-luxury-cars-in-the-world/ And here’s one from another automotive media source. I can’t really make that out though. Who is rated above the S-Class here?