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i got like 3 car mags today. they had a big time writeup in C/D on the accord. or MT? anyways, there is one angle the car looks alright from, kind of a kitty corner top side view where you see some interesting shaping from the cowl rear. kind of an x-type + bmw look that's not bad. but then look at the side profile and the car is not good. the hood is too low where it meets the windshield. the windshield rake is too upright. too much overhang. the front and rear of the car still look bad. bland, bad. interior is more swoopy and tried to copy the Germans but comes off as less mainstream and less upscale than the current one. too boy racerish almost. Not as expensive looking. no 6 speed auto? no manual shift mode? even with all that, it looks nicer than a camry but that's not saying much. the article i read said accord buyers average 50 years old. holy crap....fossils! no wonder honda is trying to rice up the car in styling and bring in younger buyers. yet, at the same time it is making the car have more room, more of a floater. still will sell i guess. as far as sttyling, honda just thought of imitating a BMW look and that would get the BMW wannabees who do not have money for the real thing. Honda has done this for years, the copy styling bit. Look at the original SHadow and stuff. Try to copy a hog.

sticker on a focus? they have been selling for 4500 off list here. 145 sticker for 10 grand.

'bi-xenons'. FU CK me. No one cares, especially on a mainstream car, and i would prefer they be be straight rather than bi anyways. Nav? you gotta be a dumbass to pay more than like 400 bucks for NAV. Fine by me if you wanna pump money into someone's pockets for a toy, but NAV's in stores now are like 300 bucks. You are getting no value out of factory NAV, if its offered. If you gotta have it, make sure you bring your bottle of lube. Why not save the finance guy's time and just tell them up front you are going to get 'paint sealant' and scotchguard too, while you are at it. Here IS what rocks. Autolamp. Remote Start (especially the new fob from GM where you can manage the vehicle's internal climate remotely). Heated Seats. I would imagine keyless / pushbutton start would rock. Memory seats. Autoclimate temp is nice and some folks its a must. Rainsense wipers are starting to catch on. I would like to see remote fob control of sunroof and convertible tops, or tops and windows that raise themselves if rain arrives. I still have found no one who can point me to a more useful in car system than Ford sync in mainstream cars for electronic devices and OnStar has real safety and security features no one else can touch in any segment for driver safety. How long is it gonna be before xenons or HID is outlawed anyways? On lux cars, I see the need. But not on cheap cars like this.

if i recall on some website that posts real world mpg from users, the aura hybrid got notably better mpg than the buff books did. imagine if the BU had an available 4 cyl turbo diesel with stick or dsg. now THAT, my friends, would be SAWEET.

i was in the honda dealer abut 6 weeks ago test driving an odyssey. the whole place smelled of estrogen though

my diamantes had auto headlights but i don't recall many other asian cars having them. all my fords have them. usually its an extra cost option in a package, point is i still get them. they are usually standard on GM. why you would get a car without is bizarre. one of the best features on a car and why i lean to Gm or ford most of the time. does accord have remote start for cold winters? E85? direct injection? can onstar unlock your accord's doors? where is the sync system like ford sync with voice activated music selection? the full size car bit is interesting. while it crosses the 100 cf barrier, i'm sure when i compare the interior of this thing to my 500, it will lack room and still feel like a claustrophobic midsize car. i suspect somewhere they are cheating to make that 100 ft. barrier. i don't envision it feeling that more spacious than the cramped 07 accord. where is the 5/100 powertrain warranty?

um, no. you're wrong, the pricing is fine. its in line with all the competition. the malibu will outdrive the camry. the new accord will not sell at the prices chevy wants, it will be higher, much higher. it gives them some room to discount the bu at the dealer. plus, how many camrys you see at the base price? UM, not many. sure is great for a price leader ad maybe.

toyota should not be sponsoring an American team. simple as that. no one said global economy in its current form was the best solution either.....just like i don't buy global warming

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/review...23-accord_N.htm

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/cc/03-07accord.htm kind of a rip fest........

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20393673/site/newsweek/ .it's true.....everything about the United States is for sale........ I don't know about you guys, but this makes my AMERICAN blood boil Let toyota spend the billion and suffer the backlash, i say...if there is one. this could end up being their billion dollar mistake in this country......the moment where their own arrogance may push them too far. by the way, does ANYONE give a rip about the olympics anymore?

here's the deal, i read on another site soemone says the wagon is at least 2 years away in AU. complete and total crap if you ask me....it was explained as spacing out the new products over a period of time to maintain interest in the model line. what if i want the car NOW? that is the bull$h! that continually afflicts GM. If an AWD g8 wagon is not available when my lease is up next fall and GM card is burning a hole in my pocket, then f-ck you, GM. Ford or someone else will get my business. I honestly would even consider the ute if I didn't need a back seat for the kid.

medical will be like retail 20 years ago when they moved away from full time decetly paid smart people. you use to get knowledgible sales consultants, now its part time zit faced kids. poor service and i would bet costs will even go up. i would imagine 10 years from now, getting to see a real doctor will be near impossible and 4x as expensive. yes, most of my recent doctor visits the last few years have been PA's

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i've always like the stream. this one's alright. not a fan of the new one's dash. here's the deal....the original odyssey never sold here...so i wonder if this one will be a market dud too. honda's got another CUV type rig that looks like an aztek/x5 mating accident and they sell it in europe. that might be alright vehicle here too. maybe honda thinks the stream will be profitable in niche quantities here. if so, then what the heck.

UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED typical Asian engineering. 'optimize' the body or structure for light weight. that equals no safety factor. Or in this case, no correct assumption of what sort of forces were required in the design. In other words, they never in their wildest dreams anticipated how hard people use trucks like this. There have been body deformation issues between the bed and cab with honda's Ridgeline as well. Basically it comes down to this. toyota or Honda has no history of designing vehicles for sever duty, and even if they could leave their engineering mindsets for a moment to indentify the criteria needed for it to pass severe duty, their desire to overoptimize and squeeze too much out of the design in terms of dollars saved or just pure love of cutting engineering to the bone means their products are going to do this. Meanwhile, you would NEVER expect a Jeep or Hummer or Suburban to fail you in this way. I have never heard of anyone saying how their Jeep has failed structurally in brutal driving. I've never heard of a Ford or Chevy truck coming apart at the seams like this. The general population needs to know about this. You would have to be an absolute fool to buy any sort of Toyota truck at any amount after hearing about the Turd camshafts and now this. Odd, but I haven't heard of any structural issues with the Frontier, Titan, etc. At least Nissan appears to have it figured out.

r8 is sweet, i give them that. new TT is horribly feminine.

gauges too

no, the interior is responsible for my costco comment. it just does not look up to par, regardless of features.

if the A3 is so friggin great why did they only sell 8000 of them in a year A3 = "that's a nice rabbit you have there, Dieter"

'but it runs forever'

man, it cracks me up to even say that......

I blame the unions, walmart, china, and of course TOYOTA!!!!!!!

the higer you rise the harder the fall

yup, i see that. then the steering wheel looks like 2 legs and a vag ina .....of a really large girl. that time you spent checking out the lowlander is 30 minutes of your life you will never get back.