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i suppose the yuppie set thinks 26k is a bargain for a four cylinder sedan.

except the trunk isn't big enough for soccer balls because of the damn battery.

plain and simple, your mileage varies from tank to tank. you need sevaral tanks before you get a trustworthy number of an average. so they may test it with one tank and it gets 37. well, its likely that over 5 tanks the average could end up to be 32, 35 or 40. One tank is not enough. two tanks, no. ten tanks, maybe.

camaro porn?

GM's ad campaigns are like Paris Hilton. It always creates a buzz and gives you something to talk about. And in GM's case, the resluts are usually like Paris Hilton too. The marketing schemes they concoct generate lots of attention and put out quite well. From a marketing standpoint, GM has come out with some brilliant and effective campaigns. Do they tarnish the image of GM? Hard to say. Some think Paris Hilton is still sweet and innocent and others think she is trash. In GM's case, its not the marketing programs that have sullied the image of the cars and company, its the product itself. It really simple. And Buickman, you ought to know this, if the damn car is overpriced vs. what the CONSUMER thinks its worth relative to anything else they can buy, then you just won't sell a lot. So you can try to preserve high MSRP and dealer margins all you want. But it ain't gonna do jack for you if no one is buying the car. Conversely, if they put incentives out on it, and it gets the price in line with what the consumer thinks its worth, then you are gonna sell assloads of them. All the while, GM itself is trying hold the price of what it sells its cars to the dealer for. Considering how GM cheaps out on its content and quality in many areas already, I assume they are cutting their own margins to the bone. So then dealer margin likely ends up getting cut to keep the MSRP palatable to the consumer, but still keeping GM having a chance to make profit itself on the car. So what everyone is forgetting here is the CONSUMER ultimately sets a fair price or average value for the car. Simply put, if the car was better it could be sold for more money and conceivable better profits for the dealer and GM. The incentives and marketing supports are needed to push dated and inferior product because people will buy something else otherwise. I am case in point. Would I buy an Aztek if it weren't so damn cheap? yeah i would have loved something else, but the MSRP was over 26 grand and after all my GM rebates and incentives I paid 16 grand for it. Either update the vehicle so folks want it or you gotta throw cash on the hood to move it. If I were a dealer I would stop my pissing and moaning about 'dealer margins' and spend more effort giving proper feedback to the decision makers at GM about what can be done to make the cars themsleves more attractive.

I WISH IT HAD THE TURBO OR SUPERCHARGER

THANKS! i'll see if i can find what he wrote me

yup

so funny. he does make a lot of good valid points. the whole thing is all the pent up sperm all the enraged lads have over camaros is enough to sell a few of these things for a few years. and then it will nosedive again unless GM keeps its fresh. he's right, women and sophsiticates are turned off by it. that will keep it in the redneck / guido car status. The Mustang is more palatable for the masses which helps temper its image and keep it endearing and mainstream. the camaro must bear the sins that come with it. I think it can long enough to sell in decent numbers. It will still sell less than the Mustang over time. It will still get ridiculed by much of society. But it can make many testosterone filled guys happy in the meantime. Honestly. No woman fresh out of college with bucks to spend and working in a corporate setting will buy one. More Jettas for them. And plenty of guys buying the imports and sedans as well.

oh yeah, and then we went back to the party and they told me she was FIFTEEN, not 18.

best one though. shameless p0rno sex naked in the outdoors on the grounds of a television company with a buddie's niece who was in town visiting for a college party.

lots o public urination ashamed to say some drunk driving and never got picked up.

dumpster diving

DONE PORN OR USE PORN?

fusion 7.4 Malibu SS 6.9 I thiink G6 GTP manual 6.5 what was the camry's 5-60 time. that is a better indicator sometimes. roll on times too.

have you seen the horrible baby blue on this car?

and my father in law has gotten 35 on trips before with his 3800 Olds 88, and regualrly over 30 on trips. 32mpg in a camry hybrid is good, but not spectacular. especially when it still misses its EPA numbers by 20% AGAIN

no its not. 600 miles is NOT sufficient. sorry.

if want a dakota with a longer warranty......... its amazing how GM, Ford and Dodge totoally botched their small trucks Colorado-undersized, no 6 cylinder, strange looks, dismal interior Ranger- ANCIENT. was out date like 10 years ago. Dakota-ugly Yup, that's your US auto companies at work. besides, what do the Leinaerts know about using pickups anyways? I doubt they even cut their own grass. And then their shameless Ridgeline plug. what a bunch of idiots. the ridgeline is thousands more and has a useless bed, and a toy truck frame. That alone shows you what they know about trucks.

nice dash improvement, but far too many buttons.

yech. my 500 mated with a mazda 6 hatchback, and the Ion and the avalon tailights were off in the corner taking care of themselves while watching. The heinous Azera looks like an Audi in comparison. wow, what a blob. But Dollar has a new car to push at the airports now. Dig that awesome BMW 3 series side swoosh! What flattery! Does every frickin car today need a Bangle treatment? The Charger and this Sebring are big time styling disasters. Sometimes you like the idea of a fat chick, but these do not do the car BBW look well at all. The interior looks cheap on this thing too even though the dash design itself isn't bad. they really picked some cheap climate controls. I am SO tired of the 'chrome ring around the shifter' bit. MEH! does everything need to be so cliche?

0% is not always the best thing. most customers would be better off taking a bigger rebate and keeping the loan payoff/balance lower in case you need to unload the vehicle.

ROTFLMAO!!!

how was the handling? I might try to go test drive a G6 GTP that is rotting on my dealer's lot.

his franchise should be taken away, really.