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"electric cars save you money". Let's see... BMW i3 MSRP : $44,000 Chevy Cruze MSRP : $18,000 Cruze composite MPG : 36 Average miles driven per year : 12,000, gas price per gallon : $3 12,000 / 36 = 333 gallons x $3 = $1000/yr in fuel cost. $44,000 - $18,000 = $26,000 How long can you drive a gas-powered Cruze before you spend as much as you spent on the i3 to "save money"? Twenty-six years. No; electric cars do not save you money. - - - - - It's not charging time or range anxiety that's holding electric cars / hybrids to a mere 2% of the industry, it's the ultra high cost to get one.

Yet in this very thread we see the customers (John Q and the auto rags) IMMEDIATELY jump to the conclusion the Camaro is permanently cancelled, just like they did with the CT6. That jump is all on the customer.

5 months of sales under its belt and the i-pace is still only finding around 200 buyers a month. It could have 14 awards; it's a flop.

BMW isn't a 'halo sports car' company. Besides, they have the spectacular i8 hybrid getting unilaterally rejected.

You think, by chance, that Porsche shareholders got out their pitchforks and torches when VW announced a Porsche SUV was coming? And burned all their stock certificates? What shareholder DOESN'T care about the company's bottom line? Wait- that would be Tesla's.

People don’t want performance crossovers tho.

IMHO, this should be reworded. ‘Rumor’ vs “has been”. Things change in months-time, and this rumor mentions ‘3 years’.

Black is my first choice in an interior color. I really don't care how many of what other vehicles I didn't buy have in them. Changing the green interior of my B-59 to black.

I don’t know what they are thinking WRT ‘construction machines’, but a Cat D5 is a 26000 lb machine and it’s NOT a big one. A. Where do you recharge on a construction site- I’m guessing a belching diesel generator. B. I drove a D6 and a D7; the loading that goes on pushing dirt is incredible- even with wide tracks and in low gear- you can bog them down to a stop. Keeping in mind how cold and high speeds drain pass vehicle electric batteries, the battery pack to create a comparable ( performance AND price) E-dozer is going to take a LOT more than 42 million to develop.

I’ve wanted a chopped ‘49-59 Merc forever. I looked at the shell of one, done really well, but too massive of a project. The stockers look fine, in the same way a 6-cyl plain jane ‘68 Camaro looks good... but a nice RS/SS looks much better, or a hardtop over a wrinkly-roofed convertible looks better.

Dey mad sexy!

It's like a motorized scrubbing bubble ? ~

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One's man's 'shitty' is another man's 'I like that fine'. Got any close-up pics of the 2?

^ Right. We've already seen the industry move to ubitquitous displacements (2.0L/3.0L/4.0L) and aerodynamic demands have rendered everything the same except for grilles/lights & emblems. There's less & less reason to have a 'toyota EV' and a 'nissan EV' and a 'mazda EV' when there's not much in the way of differentialion to come, just ink a multi-armed JV and call it the 'toysanda' EV and be done with it. Maybe they can 3-way split a Ben Franklin in profit on it some day.

All original '30 Chevy sedan in my buddy's shop- needs ignition work.

Of course it's different; it's an EV. No one has even suggested they make a profit on building an EV, I wonder if it's possible even with sharing the building of one over 2 companies. Either the price is low enough it gains some sort of measurable volume, or it's priced to the moon and only a few hundred sell. I think at this point at least 4 or 5 companies need to get involved on engineering one platform and splitting the cost, then each having a 'snap on' plastic body with their own grille.

You don’t think that makes a bottom line difference?

Still unlikely to be a viable venture. Maybe if each country engineered an EV platform then hung their respective sheet plastic on it...

Studebaker 2R5 / 2R10, '49-53

I would not call someone who wants & can afford a new vehicle 'dumb' - it's his money and his choice. If a brand new vehicle and a 3-yr old vehicle cost exactly the same, most people would take the brand new one, so the appeal is understandable. However, don't expect me to be impressed that this someone spent x-dollars. I