balthazar
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Yep, that's it. Thanks!
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^ the challenge already is here and has been met- lightest, best handling & most fun to drive. The rest will follow... but I hope Cadillac doesn't fall into the trap Daimler & BMW fell into; an all-out pursuit of sales volume. Seeing a 5-series or E350 (how did a Ford van get into that comparison??) every stop light is the anthesis of exclusivity. -
Can't read the decklid name from the actual ad, either. Pic appeared in print in a Feb 1960 magazine.
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^ It was a LOT cheaper without FED certification, plus they were just rolling with the way the Divisions did things since coming on board. Once the Fed starting getting both hands into things up to the shoulders, forget it. Aside from Cadillac, most only had 2 engines max until the '60s, and I think it took about a decade for the economics of Divisions having up to 5 or 6 (or more) engines (Chevy) for Corporate to push for cross-Divisional sharing. Actually it started with the intermediates in '61 a bit, but the 4-Division-wide practice was another lovely hallmark of the 1970s.
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Rebadging more commonly involves 'different names, same vehicle'. Here I wanted to show different vehicles with the same names. So here; they are only 'twins' in name.
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I never heard of it before today either, but it was a U.S. model/trim and those were the nameplates on the fenders : http://www.caaarguide.com/sub1/id455.html http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/chevy/77v6.html
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1977-1979 Chevy Caravan / 1984~ Dodge Caravan
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'Times change' - sure, but I was addressing configuration, not cylinder count. I can see the 'all Vee engines' argument, tho. I guess the Vee's days are numbered even at Daimler
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I still sit here wondering how mercedes justified abandoning the "better" inline 6 when they did.
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So how does this about-face mesh with their 'nuttin' better' tagline (or whatever it is); they discontinued the inline motor for the better-packaged V6, now they're dropping that to go back.
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Here's the '87 brochure page supporting SAmadei : http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Pontiac/1987%20Pontiac/album/1987%20Pontiac-22.html
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Pretty bizarre, anachronistic move.
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^ I think that's right. Pontiac started jumbling things up in the '80s, I haven't committed to memory what they did exactly. More than 1 brand used the same names on multiple series' wagons (the Dodge Sierra above is one). Others (like Chevy) liked to toss in a bunch of names.
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^ I saw something that said the Pontiac 6000 wagon was known as a Safari, but I didn't look for confirmation. That's fairly unusual, as that means the 2 overlapped in existence (like the Sevilles). The '76-whenever Seville becomes the triplet in that name series, too.
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^ Yea- don't worry about 'fraternal' - or you can just look at it as 'fraternal siblings in the automotive world'. Actually, I'm not sure how this one is much/any different than 'only the name's the same'...
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Same name pairs... 1956 DeSoto Fireflite Seville 1956-1960 Cadillac Eldorado Seville 1952-1959 Dodge Sierra wagon 1971-present GMC Sierra 1958-1959 Edsel Ranger 1967-the end of time Ford Ranger {For many initial years the Ranger was a top-line trim package on the F-Series} 1958 Edsel Citation 1980-1985 Chevrolet Citation 1958 Edsel Pacer 1975-1980 AMC Pacer 1958-1960 Edsel Villager 1993-2003 Mercury Villager 1955-1981 Pontiac Safari 1985-2005 GMC Safari
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Something I haven't seen in well over a decade; a '67-ish T-Bird coupe, dark brown, completely stock, show condition, rolling. '75-76. Looked decent but had horrific quality issues (time & owner workmanship) :
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I wish we knew the answer to this question :
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Star (England), 1897-1912 Star (Italy), 1908-1921 Star (U.S.), 1922-1928 : Pontiac Star Chief, 1954-1966 : Nissan Pulsar, 1978-2000 Sun (Germany), 1906-1908 Sun (U.S.), 1921-1924 Sunbeam (England), 1899-1976 : Moon (U.S.),1905-1931 Mercury (U.S.), 1939-2011 : Mercury Comet, 1961-1969, 1971, 1977 Saturn (U.S.), 1991-2010 Olds Jetstar 1, 1964-1965 : Olds Starfire, 1954-1956, 1961-1966, 1974-1980 : Olds Aurora, 1994-2003
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I thought so too, tho I couldn't find more without going into concept cars (not that that's 'prohibited' or anything...)
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'68 Chevelle hardtop, yellow, nice shape, at body shop. '65 Impala convertible, black over black, nice shape, same place '61-ish Dodge Lancer, 'advertising sign' :
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1963 Chevrolet Corvette StingRay : 1964-74 Plymouth Barracuda : 1965-67 Rambler Marlin : 1967 AMT Pihrana (circa 12 built) : 1970-88 Opel Manta : 1976 Chevrolet Nova Shark (circa 300 built) : 1996-2008 Hyundai Tiburon ('shark' in Spanish) :
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1934 Studebaker Land Cruiser: 1954 toyota land cruiser: 1957 Merc Turnpike Cruiser: 1963 Studebaker Cruiser: 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser: 2008 Chevrolet Cruze:
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'65 Sting Ray, side pipes, silver, looked excellent, parked at gas station.
