balthazar

That's the same 'right-angle' dash layout, complete w/ Pontiac-esque sq-footage of vents that saab has been twiddling with since the 1980s! Imagine if --say-- Cadillac was still pawning off their 1984 dashes today ! How this escapes widespread comment defies explaination.

"change" and "progress" are seldom the same thing, and that's where the confusion lies.

'Oldsmoboi' - >>"I know what you were talking about.... there are too many things in the future to be worried about. You'll go crazy if you try and cover them all."<< 'Croc' - >>"you can live in constant fear/anxiety of every little unknown on the planet, or you can realize that life is far too variable to predict every little uncertainty, and that being at peace with yourself is far more productive than being constantly vigilant and anxious over the rest of the world."<< True, but you can cover SOME of them, namely; those that are most likely to affect you long-term. Wouldn't that be prudent & responsible ? Why does it have to be 'absolutely everything' or 'just ignore it' ?? And it would likewise be settling to see some indicators that things, even just a few things, are going in a 'right' direction, in order to relieve some of the stress of these & other concerns. I think I know what Camino is talking about. There's nothing wrong with concern as long as it's managable- lack of concern/ viligance is where the problems start & spread. IMO, it's time to do regular 'proximity sweeps' WRT one's self & family... because no one else is going to do it. And for the first time in my life I see the question at hand as a very real possibility. 'Chris_Doane' - >>"...your endless doom and gloom threads around here are getting awfully old. I know I'm not the only one who feels that way."<< Why should this be pertinent? I would tend to think it rare; the scenario where a publically-expressed view generates a particular response in only ONE individual... but don't we strive to recognize free speech & expression here, and everywhere ? Is the advice - 'if you don't like it, you don't have to participate' no longer sage ? "Let the man speak, let the man speak!"

The USPS has no competition (to your mailbox), pays no taxes, raises rates 5% every year (for the last 4) and runs billions in the red /year. First class mail is up 25% in the last 10 years. That's the bottom line of being government-run, IMO : performance. Breaking even should be the goal, but $6B in the red ?? The inevitable early question: does the USPS need 750K employees, esp with volume dropping ?? What's the tab there ?

Fascinating that the wunderCo was running that close to the red, AND interesting to note the relative unpreparedness that resulted in TMC losing more sales than the industry average. Too much focus on hulking, gas-sucking SUVs & crossovers ???

Agreed, but only if your enthusiasm rests in the 'tommorrow car'.

66stang - >>"Back in the day, when cars actually looked like something other than an Acura crapbox, women actually liked cars and what they looked like. I have not only a wife, but three daughters as well. For me, having a car that is "wife friendly" and "daughter friendly" shares my love of cars with them."<< Perfectly legitimate and admirable... I was just stating 'my' opinion. Wish I could get my wife interested in the B-59... Certain era & intent cars wear certain colors better than others (and I think one could collect a strong consensus on that). Whereas a --say-- '68 Firebird might look great in --say-- an Orbit Orange... a '68 Bonneville... not so much. Later 'Endura' GTOs wear the lighter, brigther colors fine, IMO, but the chrome-bumpered cars I prefer in non-pastel-ly colors. In general, I don't care for yellows or oranges on 97% of cars. Jest my take...

To each his own, right? I hate the color: pale yellow ?? No, thanks; no testosterone. Doesn't fit a '60s PMD, IMO. It's not horrible, but it's always 'a shame' in my book.

My source says GMC used Pontiac V-8s as the optional engine '55-57 inclusive, only. In '58, GMC started using their own 336 CI V-8. The bottom-row 'linked' truck on the '58 page in GMTG's link mentions the 336. There is some later-day confusion here, because at least 1 model '58 GMC (HD) was the '370', and featured that badge in the grille. Coincidentally, Pontiac's V-8 in '58 displaced 370 CI. But no 370s or 389s in GMC trucks as a regular production option. In '60, GMC bucked the national trend by dropping the V-8 altogether, and offering either the established I-6, or their proprietory, brand-new 305 CI V-6. Note that this preceeded the cursory 'grandfather' of the V-6, Buick, by 1 year. -- -- -- -- -- The wiki engine link is mostly right: where it's subheaded "Pontiac/GMC...", it does not specify which years GMCs used PMD mills... but below that the individual engine bullets are correct WRT where they were used except for 1: the "288" was in fact the PMD 287 - whether that was a GMC advertising thing, IDK. '55 Pontiac = 287.2 CI, 3.75 bore x 3.25 stroke. GMC spec is the same. I should go fix that...

P1800 aside, all volvo 2-drs are nothing but Wrong.

Cool pics !! but next time... try not to kill the buzz by sticking those shiny car pics in, eh? I think you were right on all your questioning IDs, 66 (and that 1st Cad indeed is a '57).

>>""This is incompatible with our views and cannot happen,"<< These the same views that shook hands to sell opel off the first time ?? :rotflmao:

pair of '57 Chevy 2-dr hardtops, project cars under partial tarps in the same driveway. '61 Buick LeSabre 4-dr sedan, dark silver, mint, parked @ store. '63 Bonneville convertible, white w/ white top, exc w/ lousy aftermarket rims, for sale. '67 GTO convertible, mint, Mayfair Maize w/ white top, motoring down 287. '67 GTO 2-dr hardtop, silver, mint, rolling on Rt 23. '67 Catalina 4-dr sedan, burgandy, decent shape, on 20" 100-spoke rims, for sale. '67 Plymouth Fury III 4-dr hardtop, white, solid, factory 'mag' hubcaps, on a trailer. '70 Plymouth GTX 2-dr hardtop, red, mint, rolling right after the silver '67 GTO. '71 Dodge Demon 2-dr hardtop, orange, decent amateur resto, slammed in rear quarter, parked. late '70s Ford Fairmont 4-dr sedan on a lifted 4WD chassis with homemade rubber fender flares.

"3 decades" = 1979 :: nope - too long there. >>"a very appropriate ending "<< Yes, because 84 years should be distilled down to the last 15 only, the only way the ending can be "fitting"

Whoa whoa... whoa. Isn't this an aluminum-chassis'd & -bodied jaguar ? That weighs a monsterous 4400 lbs ?? Please tell me this one's all steel...

'64 Rambler American 4-dr sedan, mashed hard, head-on in the pass fender (hood & grille escaped damage). Tempted to ask...

Roger- if the wheel is cracked, I'd offer to repair it. 66- I don't see a true 'pink' for Olds for '56- they had Island Coral, but it was more of a brick-y tan color. There was an outright Festival Red tho. WHo's to say it wasn't repainted at one point? However, in '57 Olds offered 2 pink hues. In the vintage MoPar vein, saw a '70 Dodge Polara 4-dr hardtop, very clean, green of course, rocketing by on a local street, all 4 windows down. :wink:

Look at you; all in a lather! Troll dolls are all asexual and anatomically 'streamlined', aren't they?? I've never really examined them closely...

Cross-pollination began with the '61 compacts: Buick's 215 aluminum V-8 was an option in the Olds/Pontiac F-85/Tempest. Pontiac did start using Chevy's I-6 for '68 or '69 in the Tempest/Firebird.... but the big cars were still the top-shelf models, best engineering... they kept their own engines somewhat longer. I'd have to look up when that started breaking down (by '77 definantely). Of course- it was all over in '82... toesuf94 :: weird, but each division was still making it's own business decisions at the point your car was built. Even by '60, all Buick's wagons were coachbuilt (I believe always by Ionia), yet Pontiac built their own in-house. GM has been a VERY complex entity over the years. Bentley Manufacturing also scratch-built the Packard Panthers in '54-55... but I thought they were a separate entity from Ionia... I must have that wrong.

Yes, damnit, we did! Oldsmobile buyers weren't Buick shopping, but they still wanted big displacements/power. And no one wanted cross-pollination of engines then, so....

And a purple-haired, nude (naturally) troll doll is on the way to you as your prize, Mr Z-06. :wink: Good job. I think this was asked on here once before, but I did not know it then, and forgot it now. I see in an article on a '41 convert in my files that a power top was available (standard??) there, too, so it's not like it was a one-shot deal. Good job, Chevy. See what good comes of GM divisions running their own Engineering departments ?? This BS about 'only competing with each other' is nonsense, at least up to the '70s- GM used to be a parent Corp of 6 separate manufacturers.

Good question, don't know... but I have to ask- are you including the Corvette in "all" those Chevrolet converts ??

>>"Glad to see that once again, you had the answer at the ready."<< Sorry, just being a curmudgeon-y jerk, as usual. :wink: >>"...and man...I'd love to have one of those 640 Today."<< CLARIFICATION: that was 640 applicants... but some of them certainly could've been trucking companies... likely most were... so we're not talking 640 trucks... but 640 individuals & companies that were permitted to buy civilian trucks. Who knows how many actual units that would be?

It didn't stop, IIRC. Tho the vast vast majority of '42-45 truck production was for the military, it was not 100%. EDIT: Chevy built 60,257 trucks in '43 and 71,631 in '44. Some civilian useage (640 approved applicants out of 33,000) were allowed, primarily for hauling goods.

Question remains if any of the Solstice coupes will be withheld until after the G6 sales are done, making them the last Pontiacs sold. Not that I'm holding out any hope, but it's the least that could be done and wouldn't cost GM anything.