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was my complaint test complete?

okay okay i get it... I F-ed it up but can we all come up with a poll that would try to figure out this boards affiliation...? because obviously there are some anti foreign people, and anti this or that.... but it would be interesting at least to me... especially after reading that article about how only like 3% of americans refuse to consider an asian car

hrmm... u changed ur picture on the side... yea, i hope GM continues to expand in all areas... but i hope it will put quality style and profit ahead of a stupid sales title

i think vw already offers one...

you mean like... speed o meter? olds or buick i forget umm lights that move when you drive? tucker Nicolaus August Otto invented the gas motor engine in 1876. In 1885, Gottlieb Daimler invented a gas engine that allowed for a revolution in car design. Karl Benz was the German mechanical engineer who designed and in 1885 built the world's first practical automobile to be powered by an internal-combustion engine. America's first gasoline-powered automobile was the 1891 Lambert car invented by John W. Lambert. Eli Olds invented the basic concept of the assembly line and Henry Ford improved it. Rudolf Diesel invented the diesel-fueled internal combustion engine. 1951 American automobile manufacturer Chrysler Corporation introduces power steering., which they called Hydraguide. It's 1913 and Mary Phelps Jacob's corset was not the undergarment to wear under her new shear evening gown. Crash Test Dummies GM developed this test device nearly 20 years ago, to provide a biofidelic measurement tool -- a crash dummy that behaves very similarly to human beings. The history of the first motorcycles - Gottlieb Daimler and the first practical motorcycle - online motorcycle museum - motorcycle history. in 1896, Benz designed and patented the first internal combustion flat engine. The first American car with a gasoline internal combustion engine supposedly was designed in 1877 by George Selden of Rochester, New York, who applied for a patent on an automobile in 1879 In 1895, Selden was granted a United States patent(U.S. Patent 549,160 ) for a two-stroke automobile engine, which hindered more than encouraged development of autos in the United States The large-scale, production-line manufacturing of affordable automobiles was debuted by Ransom Olds at his Oldsmobile factory in 1902 key developments included electric ignition and the electric self-starter (both by Charles Kettering, for the Cadillac Motor Company in 1910-1911) The first electric cars were built around 1832 well before internal combustion powered cars appeared.[13] For a period of time electrics were considered superior due to the silent nature of electric motors compared to the very loud noise of the gasoline engine. This advantage was removed with Hiram Percy Maxim's invention of the muffler in 1897 1. The Airbag The airbag was invented in 1951 in the US by John W Hetrick, a former naval engineer. The key component – a ball-in-tube sensor for crash detection - was then invented by Allen K Breed, and the innovation was marketed to Chrysler in 1967. An experimental fleet of cars with airbags was built by Ford in 1971, and were made available to the general public in November 1973 by General Motors. Despite early problems, the airbag was re-introduced in the 1980s, and has since branched out into new ideas such as the side airbag first offered by the Volvo 850. 2. The Safety Belt Safety belts were invented in the 1800’s by George Cayley, a prolific engineer and pioneer of aeronautical engineering. The belts were introduced first to aircraft by Adolphe Pegoud in 1913 – the first pilot to fly upside down. After the Saab GT 750 was introduced at the New York motor show in the spring of 1958 with safety belts fitted as standard, the practice became commonplace. 3. Immobiliser Immobilisers have been mandatory in all new cars sold in the UK since 1997. Early models worked by preventing ignition unless a static code in the ignition key was recognised by a radio-frequency identification (RFID) checked to match the vehicle’s engine control unit (ECU). Later models attempted to prevent the opportunity to copy this code by using rolling codes or advanced cryptography. In highly advanced systems, an incorrect code match can even make sue of satellite or mobile phone communication to alert a security firm. 4. Navigation systems/GPS Typically using a GPS (Global Positioning Service), the automotive navigation system acquires data to locate the user on the unit’s map database. There are a number of claimants as to who first created the system; Alpine claims to have invented the first automotive navigation system in 1981, while Honda claims the first navigation system in 1983, available in the 1990 Acura Legend. The first GPS-based auto navigation system has been claimed by Pioneer in 1990. 5. Anti-lock brakes First developed in 1929 for aircraft, anti-lock braking systems had been in development by the German firms Bosch and Mercedes-Benz since the 1930s. The first completely electronic 4-wheel ABS system was installed in the Mercedes Benz S-Class in 1978, and was first made standard equipment by BMW in 1986. Since coming into widespread production, the system has made considerable progress, and in some models can now incorporate traction control, brake assist and electronic stability control 6 Cruise control A centrifugal governing speed control has been used in automobiles as early as the 1910s, with James Watt and Matthew Boulton's Peerless technology, originally designed in for use in locomotives in 1788. The modern concept of speed control was designed by the blind inventor Ralph Teetor in 1945, who was frustrated with his car driver’s tendency to speed up and slow down as he talked. The first car to use Teetor’s system was the 1958 Chrysler Imperial. 7. The Hybrid With an internal combustion engine and batteries for power, the plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV) can be re-charged by connecting to an electrical source. In theory, the conversion from a traditional automobile to a PHEV would contribute considerably to a greener environment, lessening our dependence on petroleum and reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Although no PHEVs are yet in production, Toyota, General Motors and Ford have all announced their intention to introduce the PHEV automobile. 8. The Convertible The convertible was in fact the original model for automobiles by default, until in 1910, Cadillac invented the first closed-body car. The popularity of the convertible soared in the 1950s and 60s, then all but disappeared in the US due to the threat of new regulations concerning rollover safety requirements. Although production continued in other parts of the world – most notably in Europe - the resurgence of popularity in the US can be attributed to the production of cars such as the Chrysler LeBaron and Saab 900 in the 1980s. 9. Turbo charger In 1905, the Swiss engineer Alfred Buchi applied for a patent to his internal combustion turbocharger. The system was initially applied to aircraft engines, and was first used in an automobile in 1952 by Fred Agabashian in the Indianapolis 500, giving him pole position and the race lead for 100 miles. Until the 70s the turbocharger was used mainly for sports cars, until 1976 when Saab developed a turbo engine with the reliability and durability required for everyday use. 10. Windscreen Wipers The method of moving two vertical brushes up and down on a glass windshield was invented by J H Apjohn in 1903, while the patent for the windshield wiper swinging arm was applied for in 1905 by Mary Anderson. These first windscreen wiper designs are also accredited to the world famous-concert pianist, Jozef Hofmann. The first intermittent wipers were introduced in 1969, and in the late 20th Century rain-sensing windshield wipers appeared on various models, becoming standard on all Cadillacs from early 2006. Robert Kearns (1928-2005) patented intermittent powered wipers in 1967. He demonstrated the system to Ford Motor Company, which introduced automobiles with intermittent wipers in 1978. Other automakers soon followed. The electric version(windsheild wiper), attached to the top of the windshield, was created by Bosch in 1926, but was reserved only for luxury models. Disc Brakes = Corvette

I'm currious about the bias, or the perception in this forum after reading the article based on domestic and asian buyers refusal to even consider certain brands hrmm forgot one... the umm... Got my eye one one... just waiting for the right time...

:lol2:lol

does it matter? i gotta wipe my a$$

This reminds me... Do you have problems with $h! sticking to your fur

looks like gm's got 243,621 sales in Russia so far this year vrs 140,226 looks like a total of 73% up from last year vrs toyota's 110,484 this year and 68,133 last year, a total 62 % up... (62% is lower then 63, the average growth in the country) ... i can still hear it ringing I'm afraid we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled it with terrible resolve

MOSCOW, Oct 8 (Reuters) - Sales of foreign car brands in Russia rose by 50 percent in September to 132,076 units, figures compiled by the Association of European Businesses in the Russian Federation (AEB) showed on Monday. The figures, provided by the AEB Automobile Manufacturers Committee, include production of foreign branded vehicles in Russia. The data showed that foreign car sales in the first nine months of 2007 amounted to 1,137,238 units, an increase of 63 percent from the same period of 2006. Following are sales for the top-10 foreign car brands in Russia in September and the first nine months of the year: BRAND 9M 07 9M 06 pct Sept 07 Sept 06 pct Chevrolet (GM.N: Quote, Profile, Research) 131,653 77,334 70 16,689 11,212 49 (including GM-AVTOVAZ JV) Ford (F.N: Quote, Profile, Research) 120,410 68,243 76 14,552 11,270 29 Toyota (7203.T: Quote, Profile, Research) 110,484 68,133 62 10,981 9,953 10 Nissan (7201.T: Quote, Profile, Research) 81,832 50,536 62 9,395 6,405 47 Hyundai* (005380.KS: Quote, Profile, Research) 80,477 69,204 - n/a n/a n/a Renault (RENA.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) 71,351 48,818 46 8,763 6,349 38 Mitsubishi (7211.T: Quote, Profile, Research) 69,920 51,706 35 13,363 5,935 125 Daewoo (GM.N: Quote, Profile, Research) 66,941 50,709 32 7,644 6,846 12 Kia (000270.KS: Quote, Profile, Research) 56,636 44,080 28 7,754 5,387 44 Opel (GM.N: Quote, Profile, Research) 45,027 12,183 270 5,207 1,673 211 Total** 1,137,238 699,474 63 132,076 88,282 50 Source: AEB Automobile Manufacturers Committee. NOTE: * Figure for Hyundai sales in nine months excludes sales in September 2007. ** Without Hyundai sales in September 2007.

doesnt seem like hes specifically against gm...just pissed they killed the EV1 and seems a little bit upset about the production of the volt... something about it bothers him... he wanted one of the EV1's... but gm wouldnt let him have it and as his name suggests he doesnt like petrolum usage

dont know, probably him i've got a pretty competative video that ford and chevy fans duke it out... but nothings ever been erased by my hand... if users want to suspect a message of spam, i'm sure that would erase it... but most users have more tact then that

see how long my coment stays up... Well in Toyotas defense, I can assure you that those pedestrians on the Toyota lot were not at that retail esablishment for some sort of food or entertainment porposes, they werent their for the public service bullitins. The sales people that persuaded you to illegally park in a fire zone along with a half a dozen other vehicles, are the same the same honnest people that convinced consumers to invest in the new toyota tundra that consumes more fuel then at least the GMT900 series vehicles. I have person experiance to say, putting up tents and bouncy houses and bribing people with food will bring consumers to any establishment, but selling cars isnt the same as a petting zoo, they can only afford to spend like that because they have done the community a disservice in their automotive transaction

i guess in the infinate wisdom he shared with us, he failed to mention GM has near 8000 dealerships nation wide, and although sales are slow this year, GM's are rising and Toyotas dropped... Still not sure why anyone would want to own their tundras that get horrible milage, and their prius that cause more enviornmental harm then they do good... Thanks Prius, The world Thanks its grossest polluters

if you build it they will come

PCS? permanent change of station? well i'm gonna do that soon, but i fail to see the relevance

Garenteed you didnt read anything about DoD on anything in the last 2 years... as GM decided DoD has extremely poor perception, thus the name change to AFM the G8 LS2 is the first 6.0 to receive the Active Fuel Management system.

now all we can do is sit back and wait for the malibu to come in for the kill and finnally :camarosmile:

Correct me if i'm wrong...But dont you mean, Only GM ad campaign ever?

GM needs to update that every coupe years and keep it running... it'd be nice to see some GMT900 silverados cadillac CTS's Malibus G8 Lambda astra etc... toyota has less models globally then GM does in the states...

thats what i'm thinking they seem to have a pisspoor lineup with a sprint of new cars that got them to the finish line... yet no future planning on how to sustain expected growths.

By Poornima Gupta and Kevin Krolicki DETROIT, Oct 8 (Reuters) - Negotiators from Chrysler LLC and the United Auto Workers were set to resume contract talks on Monday after the union set a deadline for wrapping up negotiations this week. The struggling No. 3 U.S. automaker has been given a 72-hour strike notice by the UAW as they negotiate a new labor agreement, a person familiar with the talks said on Monday. It was not immediately clear whether that deadline would expire Tuesday or Wednesday. A Chrysler spokeswoman declined comment on the talks. The UAW could not be immediately reached for comment. Talks were set to resume Monday morning at the automaker's Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters after high-level negotiations intensified over the weekend, said another person familiar with the negotiations, who asked not to be named because of the private nature of the talks. Negotiations between the two sides had been at a standstill for three weeks after the UAW agreed to extend Chrysler's four-year contract on wages and benefits to focus on larger rival General Motors Corp (GM.N: Quote, Profile, Research). The union reached a tentative deal with GM late last month. By shifting to Chrysler as his next target, UAW President Ron Gettelfinger is betting that the union, which represents some 180,000 workers at the Detroit-based automakers, will be able to find common ground with Chrysler's new owner, Cerberus Capital Management, at a time when sales have sputtered. Chrysler is moving to idle production at six assembly plants this week to manage inventory levels. That includes a planned two-week shutdown at three UAW-represented factories, the company said. Gettelfinger supported Cerberus' $7.4 billion acquisition of Chrysler from Daimler AG (DAIGn.DE: Quote, Profile, Research), which retains a nearly 20 percent stake in the automaker. GM and the UAW agreed on the terms of a cost-saving contract on Sept. 28 that would give the largest U.S. automaker the ability to hire almost 17,000 lower-wage workers as higher-cost existing workers take early retirement packages still being hammered out by the two sides. In a significant departure, the GM deal would shift the obligation for paying for retiree health care to a new trust fund aligned with the union, a concession expected to save GM almost $3 billion annually once it becomes effective. Although the groundbreaking GM deal was expected to provide a blueprint for the union's talks with both Chrysler and Ford Motor Co (F.N: Quote, Profile, Research), both of those automakers have expressed concerns about some aspects of the agreement. One concern is that the health-care trust considered the centerpiece of the GM deal would not begin to produce cash savings for the automaker until 2010. Under Cerberus, Chrysler has shifted its focus to improving cash flow and has been reviewing a list of assets that could be spun off. In addition, Chrysler was never granted the same 2005 concessions on retiree health care that the union gave Ford and GM by agreeing to shift some costs to its work force. That issue has now been pulled into the UAW negotiations, people familiar with Chrysler's negotiating position have said. Before talks began, Chrysler made clear that absent concessions to close a wage gap estimated at about $30 per hour between it and Japanese automakers operating in the United States, it would need to shift production out of the country.

can someone explain to me why people keep saying toyota is sales leader? last i checked GM's news articles still say Global leader for the last 7x years...

agreed, i read an article about their brands over the weekend... it praised GM over toyota because GM is poised to make massive market share gains with good products, where as toyota has 3 outlets and the vehicle face just gets tiring...