A Horse With No Name

Yeah...I find myself thinking about what I will replace the Aveo with. If I don't get a Wrangler or a Bronco I have thought hard about other midsize SUVs. CX5 is too feminine for my tastes... that's from a guy who has owned a Cooper S...new Beetle...two Miatas...but the interior is far superior to anything GM has in the midsize class. Mazda 6 way outclasses the Malibu. I am concerned that the domestic carmakers will become truck and big SUV only. And that market is so lucrative others will find a way in...chicken tax or no chicken tax. And in the midsize SUV segment Toyota has such a lead in Hybrid with the RAV4. I find the interior of the RAV 4 to be distasteful but the resale is world's better than any midsize GM vehicle.

Neat car! I miss nimble well built Japanese cars. I have had friends with every generation of Z...good memories good times.

Exactly why I see Tesla everywhere around here. Exactly why I see Tesla everywhere around here.

Maybe when that Miata got it on with the cardboard box it was a three way with a vacuum cleaner. That thing looks like it belongs on a shop vac. Maybe this thing could suck up sawdust off my wood shop floor... because I would be to embarrassed to take it autocrossing. The original Z car is gorgeous.

Honestly outside of the passable but forgettable Maxima and the reliable but dull and dated Frontier Nissan has completely lost its mojo.

2003...the 350z came out in 2003.

It is a good looking car. Looking forward to seeing the Lexus.

If you don't watch anything else...watch this...impressive.

Cybertruck and electric F150 will both be hits for the right market IMHO. Rivian seems to have no problem getting deposits. I think GM is going to ahve a hard time winning new buyers with current designs. Nothing they build is currently something I want to own either....but Kia and Hyundai seem to be doing a damn fine job brining out products that appeal to mainstream Americans. They are both a hell of a lot more modern than Toyota or Honda. Nissan is way....way....exceedingtly and excessively...behind the curve in so many ways.

On a happier note... Still love ICE...would take the Gladiator over the Tacoma. More ICE love

Not my cupoftea....but my sister just Bought an Escalade. It pulls off the big square body look well, and is a great vehicle. Happy for her...but what she spent would buy a Gladiator Rubicon or a Ford Raptor. They will get it right, and sell plenty. Being the First to market isn't always the best. Google Dehaviland Comet....British had an advantage in Jet passenger air travel....until initial design flaws were revealed. Beoing took the lead and never looked back....until the current fiascos with the 737 MAX. Rivan and Tesla suing each other, that won't end well at all for either of them. No. I think it will be a good product. It's just that fullsize trucks are so lucrative that I think the market will become even more competitive and see new players in the segment eventually. I am saying from a design standpoint, I don't really see them as being above the curve in any real tangible way. I damn sure wouldn't buy a Telluride but a hell of a lot of consumers would take it (and rightfully so) over anything in its segment from Ford, GM, or even Toyota.

This is probably my favorite new vehicle. I think, Baltahzar can probably tell us. I had my 70 Chevelle in high school repainted from white to Firethron Red, a Cadillac color supposedly. the body shop guy who did the painting said it was the same color as on olds and Buick, Baltahzar set that one straight.

There is not a single GM product right now I would personally choose over the competition. New Vette is well recieved, but would rather personally have a Shelby Mustang. I don't trust cylinder de activation tech in the Dodge of GM V8's, lots of reasons I wouldn't buy any of them. Would buy a TRD V6 Camry over the wimpy 1.5L Malibu so fast it would make your head spin. Actually Blazer and Colorado would be where I would most like to put my money were I to buy GM. Would kind of love to rock a ZR2 Colorado. But would have to talk myself out of a Gladiator Rubicon first. I do think GM will have good battery EV tech. But doing this with any midsize truck....Glaidator, Ranger, Colroado, Tacoma...would be Epic. Leaving out ridgeline because its AWD system is more oriented to on road use.

This on the other hand is pure sex on wheels. Love GMC. 5.3 L V8

Both?

Agree entirely. Look at how KIA and Hyundai are leading in SUV's. The only thing that might save north American truck production is if Rivian or Tesla can build EV';s. Otherwise, sadly, I think eventually someone else will figure out how to capture even that market from the domestics. They are sort of Pigs, but even the Tundra is having a cult following.

Whatever happened with the self driving cars everyone promised? And as for the Canoo....maybe Blu can take his Canoo When he goes with his Canoe to go hiking...but I am sure it would haul a kayak also. Obligatory ICE in the Electric thread...

Good luck. Any thoughts about how much you like the 4WD system on this?

I love those!

It still looks fantastic. Given the venom between members here, I am just going to pretend it's powered by unicorn farts and enjoy the nice Chevy truck. Again, damn impressive economy. Kudo's to GM. Makes me think if a used Zr2 comes up...I would dump big tires under it and kill the fuel economy. Let's just be honest.

That's darned fine for a midsized truck. Esp 4WD. Still like this thing. Obviously have a thing for midsize trucks. It deserves a good rest. Still love this thing.

Yeah. that was a killer combo.

Toyota is indeed selling lots of hybrids, seeing lots of Camry and RAV4 hybrids around here.

Drunken was the Miata that fornicated with a cardboard box to make this atrocity. Hard pass. And this from our resident sport compact guy. Or more tequila until it looks good. Lipstick on a pig. See, I actually sort of like the supra. Would take a Mustang GT over the supra though.

Patina with clearcoat...and an interesting electric motor video. I really like the Cutty's better with the square headlights, actually. That 70's GM maroon...Cadillac called it Firethorn red...Fantastic. ...and yeah...I miss 1970's cars. Cutty in green...