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I find the reports of real, everyday owners more credible than car magazines and EPA estimates. My pickup truck regularly beats the EPA estimates, and I do a lot of city driving since moving to Lancaster.

While I haven't been much of a fan of Motor Trend lately, I picked up the Sept/Oct issue of Motor Trend Classic for an article on the Corvair, and an interesting piece on the '59 Chevy's fins. This morning I'm going through, page by page, checking out the mag, and I find an editorial by Angus Mackenzie, entitled "History Lesson", and I swear, this man somehow got inside my mind and published what I (and others) have been thinking and posting here for years. Here are some excerpts: "...Henry Ford: 'History is more or less bunk. It's tradition. We don't want tradition...' The irony is Ford Motor Company might be in a whole lot less trouble right now if the folks who run it ignored Henry's advice and read a little history once in a while." "After decades of thrashing about, GM is only now beginning to coalesce into an automaker with a strong, centralized engineering, design, and product-development core supporting brands with a clearly defined place and purpose in the market." "GM is rediscovering the basics. But, ironically, this is stuff it had already figured out 50 years ago." "For far too long, Detroit has been preoccupied with building cheap clones of Japanese and European automobiles..." "The truth is, for the best part of two decades, a truck was about the only thing you could buy from Detroit that had a muscular V8 under the hood and didn't look like a jellybean. The 300C has proven that if you give Americans a real American car, they will buy it." "Camaros, Challengers, Galaxies, Bonnevilles, Caprices, Torinos, Gran Sports, Catalinas, Trans Ams. They're all history. But they ain't bunk." Bravo! This had to be said in a major publication! (And I really like how he mentions 3 proud Pontiac names in that last paragraph.)

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This is like a metaphor for something much bigger. Toyota v. GM, where will it end? Mr. Fly, I'm sorry man. This is so stupid that you continue to be a target. Pics please, to ease my twisted bodyshop mind.

Nice to see you back, quantum. I wonder how supply and demand is working right now with the Kappa cars. Are people waiting for them? How long does it take to get a factory-order Kappa right now?

Perfect. Conservative, yet modern and well-tailored. Not trendy. A+++++.

Oh puhleeze... NO PEARL WHITE on our hot new Camaro. A clean, bright non-metallic white would suit the car much, much better. Crocus Yellow Black Amethyst Marina Blue Aqua Blue Medium Green Metallic I agree with moltar's 10:02 pm list, except for White Opal.

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Sigh... just shows how worthless those huge 12 inch blingy rims are... no tread on the Escalade tires.

Colt (with a capital "C") :AH-HA_wink:

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I really should receive something for having the trick question correct. This is outrageous. I am officially pouting.

I'm guessing by the description it's a light blue with gold pearl over it to create the effect. Sounds pretty cool, can't wait to see it.

I was just there this morning, building and pricing an '07 G6 GTP coupe with accessory chrome upper and lower grilles. I chose to spec it out in Blue-Gold Crystal. Has anyone seen that color in person yet? I'm really interested in seeing it, as the site doesn't do any of the colors justice.

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Oh $h!, that's funny. Tx z.

I'll throw my hat into the ring for GMC. GMC buyers on average are the most wealthy of any GM division, or so I've read. That seems pretty upscale to me. A GMC minivan with interior appointments similar to the Acadia would be hard to beat. Astro and Safari were a good, strong team for 2 decades. If the Lambda van can be made into a successful smaller commercial alternative to Express and Savana, it will do well. An AWD option is a must though, for commercial applications. z28luvr has presented the most complete and compelling argument in this thread, imo.

Whenever our friend Camino puts up a photo link, all I get is a page full of gibberish... sigh.

"Turd Ferguson" is the nick of a poster over in Autoweek's Combustion Chamber forum. I'm sure there is some other significance to the name, but that's the first I heard of it. Michael Landon

With a full Cadillac grille and a slash of chrome somewhere, it could be cool. Why isn't this in the "member's showcase" section?

Nick, are you using empowah's login?

Turd Nugget

A 59 Cadillac B 57 Pontiac C 57 Plymouth D 61 Cadillac E 64 Olds F 61 Chrysler G 56 Chevy H 58 Lincoln I 59 Pontiac J 57 Buick K 58 DeSoto L 59 Ford M 60 Chevy N 58 Dodge

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