ocnblu

So, you guys are saying that the wheels serve no purpose but to hold the belly of the plane off the dirt? The treadmill would not counteract anything because the wheels do not contribute to the plane rolling along the runway as it gains the air speed to lift off?

"like a yellow dart to my heart..."

Well, at 6:30, I had a bowl of AllBran with Yogurt bites, skim milk, lite peaches, and Target's delicious Lemon/Ginger drink (no added sweeteners). Then I went out and walked 2.1 miles, so I had a big glass of room temperature spring water. But then I was feeling a bit hungry, so I opened the jerky with the intention of eating the recommended 1 ounce serving and that's when hell broke loose and I became the juggernaut.

Sorry Brian and Drew, now we're arguing semantics. I used the wrong term. If the plane cannot gain air speed it will not take off, correct?

Dammit. I just sat here and ate an entire pack of beef jerky. Don't you hate when that happens? 14,000 grams of protein, yes... but 14,001 grams of sodium. I hate salty/savory snacks!

Correct me if I'm wrong here, an airplane lifts off horizontally, not vertically like a helicopter. It needs ground speed to lift off.

Are we throwing wind speed into this equation? Now I'm getting more confused. The plane without a treadmill gains speed initially by pulling itself along on its wheels until it achieves enough ground speed to generate lift. If the wheels are on a treadmill, the plane cannot move or gain enough speed to generate lift, true or false? This thread is gonna go on and on like a treadmill. Someone unplug it please! :AH-HA_wink:

We've seen airports after hurricanes. Pretty messed up.

The engine pushes the plane forward on its wheels initially, it has to gain enough ground speed via the wheels before it can gain lift to fly. If the speed of the treadmill is the exact speed of the wheels, it will never gain speed for lift.

Steve Austin

I voted Z/28 if it is below the SS in price and horsepower. In aqua/light blue with black interior and machined finish wheels and a six speed manual. With spoiler delete.

weed

I went to Chrysler's site to look at the car. Lo and behold, it looks better in their pictures than anywhere else. So I guess I'll wait to see one on the lot before saying it's ugly. After that, all bets are off.

I like the squared-off blue PT concept. Very snazzy, and that little Pronto is incredibly cute. It would be fresh today. It wouldn't work as a PT Cruiser because it's not retro enough, but it would have made a great car for Plymouth to compete with these new B cars. I agree with those that want to see a wider range of PT Cruiser bodystyles. Basing it on the larger Sebring and making a coupe and perhaps a panel in addition to the wagon and convertible would help distinguish it from the HHR, which has stolen its thunder a bit.

You know they lied, or didn't mention it atall.

Help a retard here. I don't understand how the plane can take off if it is on a treadmill. It cannot gain any forward motion if it's on a treadmill, so how can it generate speed enough to achieve lift?

Hmmm... I think the best bet would be to make it a retro-inspired sister to the Sebring. And make the 2.4L standard, with light and high-pressure turbo versions optional. Changing it too radically might alienate buyers. These things have quite a following, and they've been pretty reliable for Chrysler. One thing going for the retro look of the Cruiser, it doesn't hark back to any particular model in particular like the Beetle and T-bird. A new Cruiser could retain it's 30's inspired style in a way different from the current car and still be successful.

The LeSabre always seemed huge to me in photos. Months ago I read of the car's true scale and these photos confirm it. It's incredibly low-slung. A jewel.

Al Jolson

blah, blah, blah. With SUVs being over, Americans will want to drive something non-wimpy like the SUV they trade in. A perfect environment for Zeta to take off, in any number of iterations. Imagine a diesel Zeta Impala taxi cab and an LS7 Impala police cruiser. Chevrolet would own the official/livery market again. Impala will be hugely successful on this platform, and there will be room for ancillary vehicles to thrive.

manna

Bob, my one Starbucks story is very boring. I had a regular once at a Starbucks in DC. We have one around here that I know of, out on Lincoln Hwy. Not sure if it has a hitching post for the buggies. You know I was just being a dick, isn't that why you love me? Not trying to hijack the thread, bud.

Sly, the "studs" in your sig are not wearing seatbelts.

Mr. Dodge Dart: we're cool. Vipes, I am sorry about being such a pain in the ass. I'm only trying to help. I know, I know, you don't need any help. It's my problem, not yours.

Farming is a hard life. You are at the mercy of the weather. It's like legalized, arduous gambling. If the weather is poor, crop prices generally go up (the price the farmer is paid for his crop), but of course you have fewer crops to sell. If the weather is good, crop prices generally go down because of the abundance. And overhead is a bitch. And the hours? Horrible, especially if you have livestock in addition to crops. Crop farmers at least have a break in winter from the daily grind, but with livestock you are tied tightly to home and farm. Luckily, modern equipment allows for much greater productivity from fewer workers.