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RE: loaded Sport @ $18-$19k... I told the salesguy I felt the nav screen is nothing but an invitation to break in and steal (they had an orange, loaded Sport auto with stability and nav), and plus I know where I'm going. He chuckled.

I had been feeding my neighbor's cat outside for about a year before they moved away. She had been an inside cat but they put her out. About 2 weeks after they moved, she somehow got injured. Vet thought she either got knocked in the head or hit by a car. Also, an a-hole tomcat kept coming onto my deck and chasing her away from the food I put out (she is spayed). So I brought her into the house "until she recovers". That was 3 months ago. She's healthy, playful and affectionate, but can be flighty at times. We had cats on the farm, Tommy, Kissy, Longjohn Silver, Portly Short... I just call my current cat Mama Girl.

Borger, just don't trip over the cord and unplug the thing.

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Intense! A real looker. And I love that you got a manual transmission.

They could talk about bangin' chicks in the White House.

Camino, your above post is the best of this thread. I applaud you for sticking to the intent of the rules you posted at the top of this section of the forum.

That video clip of Hillary ignoring Bill's attempt at a kiss, then spinning and kissing Nobama was absolutely hilarious, and completely telling... she is disgusted with Bill's insane behavior throughout her failed campaign. He has gone off the deep end.

The main problem with this subject is... we can all argue until we're blue in the face... but we will not change each other's minds. If the other guy you wish to persuade is not persuaded and shows no signs of being converted... what's the point in going on with your arguments? "...why don't you refute your position with a cogent argument." Um, I am not going to refute my own positions. What are you talking about?

"Republicans think that tax cuts.... any tax cuts... are fiscal conservatism. They're wrong." - Oldsmoboi That is an opinion, not a fact. If you're going to throw up your hands in disgust at others who post opinions in this thread, while claiming only to post "facts" yourself, please don't deviate from that.

"their warped views..."

How could I not understand your horse$h! theory... you've posted about it to GREAT LENGTHS throughout this thread. Now please stop breaking your own rules, and stop talking down to people who listen to what is going on and have their own valid opinions.

You are discounting McCain's ability to reach across the aisle. He's made repeated overtures toward bipartisanship.

I'll understand why you've broken rules you told me to abide by, rules that you wrote?

Hmmm... well, it's not bad looking, but with it's bulging fenders and uptick in the quarter glass, it reminds me of the Love Child of an HHR and a Traverse. I really hope this is an addition to the line, and not a replacement for the adorable little HHR.

A vote for Nobama is a vote for the same old Tax & Spend Liberal bull$h!. We've seen it all before. Now it's just spoken of in a dreamy way. *Yawn*

You sell yourself short. I think you're at the perfect weight right now to look like a member.

Well thanks, Harley. And thanks for sticking those pictures up there, too.

NOBAMA!

I want to invent a set that retracts in winter and hangs low in summer.

"Vote for John McCain as long as you don't mind eating horse $h!." - Oldsmoboi Oh honey, you just lost every last ounce of your credibility in this thread with that statement... telling me to stop insulting the Obama supporters, be nice, and all that other bull$h!. f@#k that. You repeatedly break your own rules and all bets are OFF, get it? NOBAMA!

It just struck me that the Trans Sport Concept reminds me of a Previa...

Much more appealing than the horrible Prius, with more soul. The front end appears to be a little bit "inflated" looking to ensure the best aero numbers, but otherwise I find nothing wrong with the car.

Well, today after work I stopped by "my" local BPG/Honda/Acura/Suzuki dealership at the invitation of one of the salesguys to try out an '09 Fit. The car I drove was a base/manual transmission in black. Here are my impressions of the whole experience: The dealership in general has been very nice to deal with, from my first contact with my eventual Sierra salesperson over the internet, to my parting words with the Honda salesguy this evening. First off, I drove to the back of the lot, where they have a fenced-in holding yard for excess inventory. They have quite a selection already of new Fits... silver, purple, black, bright blue and orange, most with "SOLD" tags on the dash. I parked the truck and started checking them out. The new car is much more up-to-date looking and more substantial than the old one. Base cars come with 15" wheels and plasticky-looking wheel covers this year, up from 14" in years past. The base car's wheels still look small. The Sport, however, comes with nice looking 16" aluminum wheels, a lower body ground effects kit that's not too obtrusive, foglamps and a rear roof spoiler that's not bad because it seems to add a bit of shade to the load area. It also comes with other functional features that make a Sport manual the best overall model to have, imo. Anyway, I drove to the front of the dealership in my truck and met up with the Honda salesguy. He was very congenial and not pushy as he slapped a dealer tag on the back of the car and pulled it around for me. I jumped in the driver's seat, adjusted everything to my liking, and off we went. First thing I have to say is, those Honda engines run like a sewing machine... soooo smooth. Honda has added their V-TEC system to the Fit engine this year, but since I've never driven an old Fit on the road, I cannot compare that aspect. The buff press has long raved about Honda manual gearboxes, and I have to say, they're right. This is the smoothest manual transmission/clutch interface I've ever experienced. Usually when I get into a new manual transmission car, it takes a few minutes to get used to it, but not this car. I never jerked it once, and rowing through the gears is easy, smooth and with the right effort so you know you're connected to something mechanical, an unusual trait for a FWD transmission linkage, imo. Out on the road, it had plenty of pep to get up to highway speeds. The ride is slightly busy but smooth, where my truck uses Road Hugging Weight to keep it feeling planted. The Fit immediately felt fun to drive. I didn't hear any excessive road or wind noise. The loudest part of the ride was the dealer tag flapping against the taillight lens. The route soon changed to a back road with plenty of curves. The little Fit held tight, and the buttery transmission action only added to the fun factor. On the interior, the dashboard isn't as offensive in reality as it is in pictures. Everything is easy as heck to reach and operate. The steering column has a good range of adjustment, and the seats are supportive. It has a slightly cheesy instant MPG meter in the cluster that seems not to have been put in there for real calculation purposes (but it's fun to watch it fluctuate with the gas pedal). The interior plastics are no better than any given GM small car, whether judged on look or feel, but everything seemed to be snapped together pretty tightly. It is an economy car, after all. As far as utility goes, the Fit is king of the tiny cars, imo, with its "Magic Seats". You can fold down either or both halves of the back seat... you can fold the back seat cushions upward to allow a tall load space from the lowest point of the floor to the roof... you can even lay down the front passenger seat if you want to Hang Ten and stick a surf board inside the car. Overall, I find the Fit not the Second Coming, but in this class, I think the Fit is at the top, with a fun demeanor, more modern looks than the old car, loads of utility, comfortable ride, and good value for the all-around package. I liked it more and more as I drove it.

Not a real SS, but mad sweet anyhow. I always liked the basket handle shifter.