Camino LS6

Goofy.

Just heard from Ocn, he can't get the page to load either.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but that's more work than I'm planning on.

For one thing, Biden doesn't drink.... But I sure would like to see a VP do this in the Whitehouse driveway!

Trans would be a problem...

This is exactly why I will never be happy with a 4cyl. car. I hate the high RPM thing with a passion, and love torque. No way could I live with something like that CRV - and what lousy mileage!

I owned an '87, and yeah, it would be cool. But it's my '77 I am thinking of right now, and a '10 Camaro drivetrain would be quite nice.

The NSX has always been underwhelming and overpriced.

Nah, I only need the drivetrain.

Won't load period with explorer for me.

Donor car for project Camino?

I haven't been able to get the site to load for days. Today I tried it with firefox and here I am, but it still won't load with explorer.

G6 should have been true to concept.

Maybe, but to my untrained eye, this looks like a cousin to fraud.

What are people smoking that they'd equip trucks this way? The prices are simply insane. I'd leave all four of them on the lot.

I can make no sense of this whatsoever. I barely even have an impression of what it means.

Happy birthday, Lamar.

Too bad you see it that way, I don't. I see more information in this thread than the original article.

Didn't click the link, but IIRC, they had to build a couple of cars in sport gold after the color was discontinued because of a contest. The way the rules were written, they couldn't get out of it. Funny little tidbit.

Someone put a bullseye on it. :AH-HA_wink:

Not the same by a longshot. It isn't a simple matter of meeting regulations, it is a system of intentional obstacles. However, given the spot they are in now, that all may change in a hurry. There will be pain all around.

Keep an eye on the Solstice forums, you may yet have a shot at one. But 40K is pure dealer BS. Hunt around and you may get lucky.

Not if you read carefully.

I'm not sure that anyone is going to have "exact" numbers for you as it applies to V6 Camaros. But if you think it over yourself, I'd bet that you can come up with some of the answers on your own. Here, I'll ask you a few questions. Where in the structure of a car do you think you'd have to increase strength as you increase horsepower? Imagine all of the systems affected. Now ask yourself how much of that you would engineer twice so that you could offer both high and low power versions of the car. That's where the weight is. Most of it resides in the structural members of the car (unibody/subframes...), but it also affects every other mechanical system in the car. So, the V6 Camaro has much beefier components than it would if only the V6 were to be offered. The car had to be designed to meet the maximum powerplant, so it is overengineered and reinforced for lesser drivetrains. In the case of Camaro, weight reduction was one of the design parameters - so this car is no overweight pig that could have been a featherweight. The Camaro team was constantly badgered about this exact issue all through development once the Camaro crowd learned that it was to be built on Zeta. If they could make money marketing a "stripper" a few more pounds could come off, the same goes for easier safety regulations, or they could have saved a bit of weight by using a live rear axle rather than IRS. But that's about it. The only other solutions are raising the price quite a bit by using expensive lightweight materials in more places, or shrinking the car to a smaller platform. Still, with only an 8% differnece in weight vs. Genesis, would it be worth it? The Genesis itself is not offered with a V8. Are you sure that it has been engineered for one? Concepts don't count here, and I'm just asking, not claiming to know. I can tell you this for certain though. If Genesis is engineered (as produced) for a V8, then it weighs more than it needs to. And, if it ever gets one, it will weigh quite a bit more than the few pounds added by the larger engine because other components will need to be augmented. I'm not trying to fight you here,BV.

Surviving as a dealer with just GMC and Subaru would be close to impossible.